Free Republic
Browse · Search
General/Chat
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Train Carrying Oil Derails and Explodes
Daily Mail ^ | 6 July 2013 | Jessica Jerreat

Posted on 07/06/2013 11:43:19 AM PDT by fella

The center of a Quebec town has been wiped out, according to the mayor, after a freight train carrying crude oil derailed and exploded in a fireball at 1am on Saturday. About 30 buildings were destroyed and 60 people are believed to be missing, but the force of the fire has prevented rescue workers from searching for survivors. Parts of the town were . . .

(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Local News
KEYWORDS:
This is why we changed from using tank cars to pipelines over a hundred years ago.


1 posted on 07/06/2013 11:43:19 AM PDT by fella
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies]

To: fella

And the Keystone pipe line is unsafe due to possibe spills and certainly rail is much better. (sarc)


2 posted on 07/06/2013 11:46:53 AM PDT by DaveA37 (I'm for SMALLER , HONEST government)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Progov

Buffett train?


3 posted on 07/06/2013 11:47:41 AM PDT by Errant
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: fella
Parked the train outside the train...autopilot. Sounds like a deadly combination.
The Montreal Maine & Atlantic train did not have a driver and was being run on autopilot.

The train's conductor had parked the train outside the train and got off it as he
waited for someone to take over his shift, when it somehow 'got released', the
railway company's vice-president Josephy R. McGonigle said.


4 posted on 07/06/2013 11:55:57 AM PDT by NautiNurse (Now we all have Obama phones.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: fella; Clive; exg; Alberta's Child; albertabound; AntiKev; backhoe; Byron_the_Aussie; ...
That photo is downright apocalyptic.

To all- please ping me to Canadian topics.

Canada Ping!

5 posted on 07/06/2013 11:57:14 AM PDT by Squawk 8888 (I'd give up chocolate but I'm no quitter)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: fella

Video in French

6 posted on 07/06/2013 11:57:25 AM PDT by deport
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: fella

This is precisely why Obunga fights Keystone pipeline; to line Buffet’s pockets, with appropriate under the radar rewards for O in the Caymans or elsewhere, since Buffet owns the stateside portion of the RR.....And also to leave the RRs exposed as sitting ducks for terrorism, as this incident very probably was.


7 posted on 07/06/2013 12:03:49 PM PDT by Tucker39
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Errant
[Buffett train?]

Apparently not but Buffett’s BNSF has transit rights on 8,000 miles of Canadian track. BNSF can operate their own trains with U.S. crews on these rails.

8 posted on 07/06/2013 12:05:06 PM PDT by Brad from Tennessee (A politician can't give you anything he hasn't first stolen from you.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: Brad from Tennessee

Thanks for the info!


9 posted on 07/06/2013 12:05:51 PM PDT by Errant
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 8 | View Replies]

To: Tucker39
'leave the RRs exposed as sitting ducks for terrorism,'

And a pipeline of hundreds of miles of needed protection is different? By in large terrorism is a absurdly small threat to be concerned about in relation to things like that.

Accidents/negligence happens in all forms of transportation.

10 posted on 07/06/2013 12:09:14 PM PDT by Theoria
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 7 | View Replies]

To: Progov

Better to kill humans than bother an owls nesting habits. Besides, there are too many humans.


11 posted on 07/06/2013 12:18:24 PM PDT by deadrock (I am someone else.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: Theoria

Pipelines are buried over 3 feet deep.


12 posted on 07/06/2013 12:30:23 PM PDT by IMR 4350
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 10 | View Replies]

To: IMR 4350

Not in all locations.


13 posted on 07/06/2013 12:30:46 PM PDT by Theoria
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 12 | View Replies]

To: IMR 4350

Not always.


14 posted on 07/06/2013 12:36:51 PM PDT by deadrock (I am someone else.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 12 | View Replies]

To: fella

How old is the Alaska pipeline now?

Other than a drunk shooting at it, what have been the mega crises with it?

none.


15 posted on 07/06/2013 12:57:08 PM PDT by NoLibZone (There is only one solution: Secession by the Red states.No need to be in the NYC union.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Theoria
Generally pipelines don't run through the center of town. Most is through sparsely populated areas. There are thousands upon thousands of pipelines across the USA transporting the gasoline we use, jet fuel, natural gas.

Stopping the Keystone pipeline is about keeping Warren Buffet and his investors in business transporting shale crude by rail.

16 posted on 07/06/2013 2:11:37 PM PDT by Newbomb Turk ("All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing.")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 13 | View Replies]

To: fella

Another terrorist attack.. Chinese may have funded it


17 posted on 07/06/2013 2:23:37 PM PDT by 22ndMEUMarine
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: NoLibZone

Amost 40 years old. easily


18 posted on 07/06/2013 2:30:31 PM PDT by Chickensoup (200 million unarmed " people killed in the 20th century by Leftist Totalitarian Fascists)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 15 | View Replies]

To: Newbomb Turk
In principle the Keystone is/will not be a large factor in preventing shale crude by trail.

Secondly, pipeline accident/negligence do happen as well. Explosions always get the enviros stirred up.

19 posted on 07/06/2013 2:47:13 PM PDT by Theoria
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 16 | View Replies]

To: fella
The August issue of Trains magazine has an article touting rails safety moving oil vs. pipelines based on million ton mile stats...looks like they might need to do an update next month.

Interesting, it doesn't take much reading between the lines to see the environmental opposition is being used to keep the Keystone pipe line and Canadian tar sands oil out of our markets in favor of domestically produced shale oil and railroads.

20 posted on 07/06/2013 3:21:18 PM PDT by Red Dog #1
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: fella

21 posted on 07/06/2013 4:29:52 PM PDT by Paladin2
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: fella

https://twitter.com/MrHuchette/status/353555167897071617/photo/1


22 posted on 07/06/2013 4:30:12 PM PDT by Paladin2
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Paladin2

23 posted on 07/06/2013 4:30:53 PM PDT by Paladin2
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 21 | View Replies]

To: Theoria

You’re entitled to your opinion,
I smelled a rat when I read that the crude oil EXPLODED. Crude oil, of its own volition, doesn’t explode. It takes the introduction of a source of ignition.


24 posted on 07/06/2013 6:34:15 PM PDT by Tucker39
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 10 | View Replies]

To: NautiNurse

They also say...

“the railway company’s vice-president Joseph McGonigle said.

‘We’re not sure what happened, but the engineer did everything by the book. He had parked the train and was waiting for his relief,’ “

They may want to rewrite the book.


25 posted on 07/06/2013 7:22:29 PM PDT by kanawa (FB...Save George Zimmerman from racial onslaught)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 4 | View Replies]

To: kanawa
We’re not sure what happened, but the engineer did everything by the book. He had parked the train and was waiting for his relief

The book sounds like a union labor manual. You must not exceed work time or effort outlined in labor agreement. Wouldn't be prudent.

26 posted on 07/06/2013 8:47:58 PM PDT by NautiNurse (Now we all have Obama phones.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 25 | View Replies]

To: Red Dog #1
Interesting, it doesn't take much reading between the lines to see the environmental opposition is being used to keep the Keystone pipe line and Canadian tar sands oil out of our markets in favor of domestically produced shale oil and railroads.

Keep reading between those lines. Eastern refineries have traditionally unloaded oil from tankers, because there were few crude oil pipelines to their locations. Now, trainloads of light, sweet crude are going to those refineries rather than tankerloads, and that is the reason the split in price between Brent crude and WTI has gone from over 20 dollars to less than ten. Our oil is competing with imports because it can get to the refineries by rail.

27 posted on 07/07/2013 1:43:43 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 20 | View Replies]

To: fella

OMG! The Amish or FLQ are BACK!/s


28 posted on 07/07/2013 2:00:01 AM PDT by Candor7 (Obama fascism article:(http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html))
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Smokin' Joe
I've seen others stories also talking about rails flexibility. So, do you thing cronyism and rails flexibility are both occurring?
29 posted on 07/07/2013 10:28:08 AM PDT by Red Dog #1
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 27 | View Replies]

To: Red Dog #1
Buffett is a shrewd investor. The Bakken/Three Forks oil was selling at the same price as WTI before the boom, but with an increase of half a million barrels of oil production from the Bakken/Three Forks per day, the lack of pipeline capacity had the price of the light sweet crude discounted by $30 dollars per barrel or more.

Buffett saw (as did others) an opportunity to make money. Ship the oil by rail to refineries which were paying Brent rates for imported oil ($20 above WTI), buy Bakken oil cheaper--or better yet own a chunk of the major rail lines through the region--and the refineries get oil a little cheaper, producers get more for their product, and the shippers and brokers make money in the middle--all without raising any prices overall.

The Keystone XL will still take the heavy Athabascan 'Tar Sands' crude south to refineries which were refining the oil from Venezuela, the trains take oil to refineries which were refining arab light and Brent.

So, who wins?

Oil producers.

Oil service companies, and those others in producing regions (of the US)

The eastern refineries, and some out west, too (happening/developing).

The US (lower trade deficit for oil).

The railroads, of which BNSF is a primary carrier.

Those locals who spent the money to develop railcar loading facilities for oil.

Buffett just bought stock in one of the companies key to making the whole thing happen.

30 posted on 07/07/2013 8:43:47 PM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 29 | View Replies]

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
General/Chat
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson