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Antarctic Lake Vostok buried under two miles of ice found to teem with life
telegraph.co.uk ^ | 3:23PM BST 06 Jul 2013

Posted on 07/07/2013 5:51:24 PM PDT by BenLurkin

Analysis of ice cores obtained from the basin of Lake Vostok, the subglacial lake that Russian scientists drilled down to in 2012, have revealed DNA from an estimated 3,507 organisms.

While the majority were found to be bacteria, many of which were new to science, there were also other single celled organisms and multicellular organisms found, including from fungi.

The diversity of life from the lake has surprised scientists as many had thought the lake would be sterile due to the extreme conditions.

Lake Vostok was first covered by ice more than 15 million years ago and is now buried 12,000 feet beneath the surface, creating huge pressures. Few nutrients were expected to be found.

(Excerpt) Read more at telegraph.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Science
KEYWORDS: antarctic; antarctica; catastrophism; cryptobiology; cryptozoology; godsgravesglyphs; lakevostok; russia

1 posted on 07/07/2013 5:51:24 PM PDT by BenLurkin
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To: BenLurkin

This movie rarely ends well.


2 posted on 07/07/2013 5:57:43 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: BenLurkin

What could possibly go wrong?

Anyhow, Tekeli-li! Tekeli-li!

Freegards


3 posted on 07/07/2013 5:58:47 PM PDT by Ransomed
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To: BenLurkin

4 posted on 07/07/2013 6:01:20 PM PDT by COBOL2Java (I'm a Christian, pro-life, pro-gun, Reaganite. The GOP hates me. Why should I vote for them?)
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To: BenLurkin; MestaMachine

Pingo


5 posted on 07/07/2013 6:03:50 PM PDT by Hardraade (http://junipersec.wordpress.com (Obama equals Osama))
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To: Norm Lenhart

It does if the scientists just happen to have a lot of flamethrowers and high explosives.


6 posted on 07/07/2013 6:03:55 PM PDT by LiveFree99
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To: COBOL2Java

They seem friendly enough. Like the cute little aliens in Galaxy Quest.


7 posted on 07/07/2013 6:07:46 PM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both.)
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To: BenLurkin
"While the majority were found to be bacteria, many of which were new to science, ....

Warning!
Warning!
DANGER< Will Robinson ...


ah

ahh

AAHHH

CHOOO !!

8 posted on 07/07/2013 6:12:16 PM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof, but they're true.)
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To: BenLurkin

(ah, relief from the Zimmerman trial. Thank you so very much)

They say there is much more life underground than there is above the ground. I would bet the ratio is much more extreme than we imagine.


9 posted on 07/07/2013 6:23:25 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (The monsters are due on Maple Street)
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To: BenLurkin

Send the probe to Europa then!


10 posted on 07/07/2013 6:24:44 PM PDT by struggle
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To: BenLurkin

Here’s an interesting thought.

These organisms have been living and reproducing for 15 million years. Have any of them ‘evolved’?

There are 3507 different organisms now. How many were there 15 million years ago ?


11 posted on 07/07/2013 6:26:46 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (The monsters are due on Maple Street)
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FR is funded solely by the freedom loving folks
who love and use it.

12 posted on 07/07/2013 6:31:06 PM PDT by RedMDer (When immigrants cannot or will not assimilate, its really just an invasion. Throw them out!)
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To: struggle

Maybe we can get Obama to probe Uranus!


13 posted on 07/07/2013 6:31:42 PM PDT by Mr. K (There are lies, damned lies, statistics, and democrat talking points.)
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To: UCANSEE2

that is an awful darn good question


14 posted on 07/07/2013 6:32:16 PM PDT by Mr. K (There are lies, damned lies, statistics, and democrat talking points.)
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To: Mr. K

Obama will have to get in line behind the IRS and the NSA.


15 posted on 07/07/2013 6:34:14 PM PDT by Farmer Dean (stop worrying about what they want to do to you,start thinking about what you want to do to them)
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To: BenLurkin

P.S. Technically there are 3507 organisms in the sample. Anything bigger than a football wouldn’t fit. And we know that life in the oceans and lakes is stratified. So the sample represents one ‘layer’ of the water.

We don’t really know how many different organisms are in the lake at all.


16 posted on 07/07/2013 6:35:50 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (The monsters are due on Maple Street)
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To: BenLurkin

This is the reason why ice core data for CO2 concentrations from hundreds to thousands of years ago are totally un reliable.

There are a multitude of microbes in ice formations which either consume or produce C02 gas and totally bias the residual C02 content in the ice cores one way or another.


17 posted on 07/07/2013 6:37:51 PM PDT by rdcbn
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To: BenLurkin

“A seedpod. Yes. The neat and unconfused reproductive technique of vegetation. No pain or pleasure as we know it. No emotions...no heart. Our superior. Our superior in every way. Gentlemen, do you realize what we’ve found? A being from another world as different from us as one pole from the other. If we can only communicate with it...we can learn secrets that have been hidden from mankind since the beginning...”

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/f8/Robert_O._Cornthwaite.jpg/220px-Robert_O._Cornthwaite.jpg


18 posted on 07/07/2013 7:26:16 PM PDT by WorkingClassFilth (You hear it here first.)
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http://www.freerepublic.com/tag/lakevostok/index


19 posted on 07/07/2013 7:43:10 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (McCain or Romney would have been worse, if you're a dumb ass.)
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To: 75thOVI; agrace; aimhigh; Alice in Wonderland; AndrewC; aragorn; aristotleman; Avoiding_Sulla; ...

Thanks BenLurkin.


20 posted on 07/07/2013 7:44:00 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (McCain or Romney would have been worse, if you're a dumb ass.)
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To: StayAt HomeMother; Ernest_at_the_Beach; decimon; 1010RD; 21twelve; 24Karet; 2ndDivisionVet; ...

Thanks BenLurkin.

21 posted on 07/07/2013 7:44:02 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (McCain or Romney would have been worse, if you're a dumb ass.)
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NASA map shows what Antarctica would look like without ice
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/3029036/posts

Six billion tonnes of water vanishes from underground Antarctic lake
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/3038537/posts


22 posted on 07/07/2013 7:45:59 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (McCain or Romney would have been worse, if you're a dumb ass.)
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“New DNA” Found In Ice Not New After All
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2995568/posts


23 posted on 07/07/2013 7:46:47 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (McCain or Romney would have been worse, if you're a dumb ass.)
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Antarctic ice shelves not melting at all, new field data show
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/bloggers/2899593/posts

Gamburstev And The Alps Underneath The Antarctic
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/bloggers/2334893/posts


24 posted on 07/07/2013 7:48:37 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (McCain or Romney would have been worse, if you're a dumb ass.)
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To: BenLurkin

I care about bacteria in a sub ice pack lake in Antarctica?


25 posted on 07/07/2013 7:51:58 PM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: WorkingClassFilth

“CLOSE THE DOOR!”


26 posted on 07/07/2013 8:03:02 PM PDT by Rodamala
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To: central_va
I care about bacteria in a sub ice pack lake in Antarctica?

Enough to click on the thread then post.

27 posted on 07/07/2013 8:33:08 PM PDT by Eaker (Manners are good when one may have to back up his acts with his life. Robert A. Heinlein.)
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To: Mr. K

Obama:Been there. Done that....many moons ago.


28 posted on 07/07/2013 8:53:35 PM PDT by lbryce (BHO:"Now, I am become Death, the destroyer of worlds by way Oppenheimer at Trinity NM)
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To: SunkenCiv

Was gonna ping ya, but ya beat me to it dangnabbit.


29 posted on 07/07/2013 8:55:59 PM PDT by martin_fierro (< |:)~)
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To: UCANSEE2
There are 3507 different organisms now. How many were there 15 million years ago ?

The scientists should check the archives.

30 posted on 07/07/2013 9:22:07 PM PDT by ThanhPhero (Khach hanh huong den La Vang)
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To: Mr. K

“Maybe we can get Obama to probe Uranus!”

Somehow I just knew that someone would figure out a way to get him interested in a space program.


31 posted on 07/07/2013 9:28:35 PM PDT by haroldeveryman
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To: struggle
Nope. Gotta leave that one alone.


32 posted on 07/07/2013 9:31:11 PM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both.)
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To: BenLurkin
"They" don't understand human nature. If we got a message like that, Europa would be the first place we go.
33 posted on 07/07/2013 9:53:54 PM PDT by Cyber Liberty (I am a dissident. Will you join me? My name is John....)
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To: Hardraade

Are you still keeping track? There have been so many you’d think I might have flubbed at least one...but nope. All for all with plenty to go.
Next in that area should be the reservoir which SHOULD have been a no brainer years ago.


34 posted on 07/07/2013 11:22:05 PM PDT by MestaMachine (My caps work. You gotta earn them.)
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To: Cyber Liberty
I'm betting "They" taste even better than Dolphin and Baby Seal.
Book title: To serve They.
35 posted on 07/08/2013 12:06:13 AM PDT by MaxMax (If you're not pissed off, you're not paying attention)
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To: UCANSEE2

Good one !!!


36 posted on 07/08/2013 2:45:39 AM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof, but they're true.)
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To: Eaker

When I hear the phrase “teem with life” I don’t think bacteria.


37 posted on 07/08/2013 2:58:18 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: BenLurkin
Applying some science and math to this. Back in graduate school, I remember hearing that roughly a 1/3 of all bacteria are human pathogens.

Article says that majority of what was found (3507) were new unknown bacterias. So using that critera...... That would mean at least 1754 new bacteria times 1/3 = 584 potential new pathogens. Of course some may be as mild as a cold, but who is to say that one of them is has the ability to spread like a cold, and is as deadly as Bubonic.

I say they autoclave this research, and let Lake Vostok be.

38 posted on 07/08/2013 4:17:21 AM PDT by catfish1957 (Face it!!!! The government in DC is full of treasonous bastards)
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To: catfish1957
After giving this some more thought, I am guessing that the 584 number I stated, may be overstated. The water in Lake Vostok is probably pretty close to freezing to probably no more than 50 degrees at the bottom. These organisms are acclimated to the cold climes, so a human as a host at 98.6 is probably less likely, but who knows, bacteria and viruses for that matter have varying amounts of adaptability, and can handle different levels of environmental conditions.

Still a scary thought, letting something unknown loose like that, but the 584 is too big a number.

On the other hand, are these based on one geographical core? If that is the case, who can say what lurks underneath one side of the lake or the other?

39 posted on 07/08/2013 4:24:33 AM PDT by catfish1957 (Face it!!!! The government in DC is full of treasonous bastards)
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To: BenLurkin
"If you can call that living"


40 posted on 07/08/2013 5:48:09 AM PDT by P.O.E. (Pray for America)
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To: catfish1957

There are lifeforms that will only sneer at you if you autoclave...


41 posted on 07/08/2013 6:39:05 AM PDT by Hardraade (http://junipersec.wordpress.com (Obama equals Osama))
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To: catfish1957

ditto


42 posted on 07/08/2013 7:38:38 AM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both.)
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To: Hardraade

You are right. I understand there are some bacterial that can survive the heat of the vulcanic activity in the ocean. That is one bad ass bug.


43 posted on 07/08/2013 9:03:47 AM PDT by catfish1957 (Face it!!!! The government in DC is full of treasonous bastards)
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To: LiveFree99

“It does if the scientists just happen to have a lot of flamethrowers and high explosives.”

Where were you, Childs?


44 posted on 07/08/2013 10:05:03 AM PDT by D_Idaho ("For we wrestle not against flesh and blood...")
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To: SunkenCiv

Oh,...that is a nice banner.


45 posted on 07/08/2013 11:41:47 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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To: D_Idaho

I thought I saw Blair. I went out after him and got lost in the storm.


46 posted on 07/08/2013 6:45:58 PM PDT by LiveFree99
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