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SUKHOI SU35 performs at the Paris Air Show
YT ^ | 06/24/13 | Salon du BourgetĚ

Posted on 07/08/2013 2:46:25 PM PDT by Doogle

First appearance in the West

(Excerpt) Read more at youtube.com ...


TOPICS: Military/Veterans; Miscellaneous; Music/Entertainment
KEYWORDS: russian
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If your impatient go to 1:19 in the beginning....*smiles*
1 posted on 07/08/2013 2:46:25 PM PDT by Doogle
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To: Chode

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BK8cg1guFAw

PING


2 posted on 07/08/2013 2:47:05 PM PDT by Doogle (USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated))
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To: Doogle

want to look at this latter


3 posted on 07/08/2013 2:52:19 PM PDT by Steve Van Doorn (*in my best Eric Cartman voice* 'I love you, guys')
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To: Doogle

Awsome!!!!! I just love it when you get that ice comming off the jets. I can’t remember the true name. But love it. Thanks for posting. A real treat to watch.


4 posted on 07/08/2013 2:54:34 PM PDT by ColdOne (I miss my poochie... Tasha 2000~3/14/11)
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To: Doogle

Either I’ve had one too many beers or that thing was using thrust vectoring to pull some pretty bizarre moves. There was one point I was just sure he was going to flat spin and pancake. Thanks for posting.


5 posted on 07/08/2013 2:58:11 PM PDT by Trod Upon (Every penny given to film and TV media companies goes right into enemy coffers. Starve them out!)
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To: Doogle

The USSR...a Fourth World cesspool that has nukes,planes and huge natural gas reserves.


6 posted on 07/08/2013 3:02:57 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (The Civil Servants Are No Longer Servants...Or Civil.)
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To: Doogle

Is our F-22 better than the SU 35?


7 posted on 07/08/2013 3:05:51 PM PDT by laplata (Liberals don't get it. Their minds have been stolen.)
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To: Doogle

Again I ask, why can’t existing US aircrift be upgraded to make them more capable?


8 posted on 07/08/2013 3:06:19 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Inside every liberal and WOD defender is a totalitarian screaming to get out.)
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To: laplata

Yes. Why else do you think Obama cancelled it?


9 posted on 07/08/2013 3:07:28 PM PDT by Stingray (Stand for the truth or you'll fall for anything.)
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To: laplata; Doogle
Is our F-22 better than the SU 35? great question, I too would like to know.
10 posted on 07/08/2013 3:07:38 PM PDT by ColdOne (I miss my poochie... Tasha 2000~3/14/11)
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To: Doogle

Looks like F-15 tail section with F-16 wing with thrust-vectoring. It seems like pretty old technology.

Communists would steal from their own mothers if it would further their cause.

Does it want to tangle with an F-22?


11 posted on 07/08/2013 3:08:32 PM PDT by spel_grammer_an_punct_polise (Learn three chords and you, too, can be a Rock Star!)
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To: Gay State Conservative
The USSR...a Fourth World cesspool that has nukes,planes and huge natural gas reserves.

And let's face it...some of the hottest chicks on the planet.

12 posted on 07/08/2013 3:09:34 PM PDT by Sirius Lee (All that is required for evil to advance is for government to do "something")
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To: Stingray

Yes. Why else do you think Obama cancelled it?

That’s right.

We have 187 operational, which isn’t nearly enough.


13 posted on 07/08/2013 3:11:40 PM PDT by laplata (Liberals don't get it. Their minds have been stolen.)
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To: spel_grammer_an_punct_polise
Does it want to tangle with an F-22?

Well, the suckoff was designed to do close combat ballet. The F-22 just flies in and shoot once from - well, we don't really know how many miles away, turn around and get back in time for the volleyball game behind the officer's club.

14 posted on 07/08/2013 3:12:19 PM PDT by Sirius Lee (All that is required for evil to advance is for government to do "something")
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To: ColdOne

Without knowing any particulars, I think the F-22 is way ahead of anything else, though.


15 posted on 07/08/2013 3:13:01 PM PDT by laplata (Liberals don't get it. Their minds have been stolen.)
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To: laplata

Yes!!!This air craft has absolutely no stealthiness!!! Although it is a beautiful airplane!!!


16 posted on 07/08/2013 3:13:16 PM PDT by ontap (***)
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To: Trod Upon
going to flat spin and pancake.

Very impressive and that pilot must have a ball flying that.
Wonder if they will sell those things to the Chi-coms?
17 posted on 07/08/2013 3:15:36 PM PDT by JSteff (It was ALL about SCOTUS... We are DOOMED for several generations. . Who cares? The Dems care!)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

They could be but not as capable as the F-22!!The F-16 ,F-18 and F-15 have beat every advisory they have faced. Airplanes do wear out though!!!


18 posted on 07/08/2013 3:16:16 PM PDT by ontap (***)
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To: ontap

And one F-22 can sit back and take out a number of bad guys before they know what hits them, I think.


19 posted on 07/08/2013 3:16:41 PM PDT by laplata (Liberals don't get it. Their minds have been stolen.)
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To: JSteff

I think the cji.com have already stole enough technology from us to build their own!!!


20 posted on 07/08/2013 3:17:28 PM PDT by ontap (***)
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To: ontap

cji=chi


21 posted on 07/08/2013 3:17:59 PM PDT by ontap (***)
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To: laplata
That's the beauty of the thing.... you never see it!!!
22 posted on 07/08/2013 3:19:10 PM PDT by ontap (***)
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To: laplata

Thanks.


23 posted on 07/08/2013 3:20:53 PM PDT by ColdOne (I miss my poochie... Tasha 2000~3/14/11)
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To: ontap

Who knows what kind of aircraft we have that we haven’t seen yet.


24 posted on 07/08/2013 3:20:53 PM PDT by laplata (Liberals don't get it. Their minds have been stolen.)
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To: laplata

Well Carter cancelled the B-2.....when Ted Cruz is elected we’ll get plenty!!!!!!!


25 posted on 07/08/2013 3:22:36 PM PDT by ontap (***)
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To: ontap

That’s right. Ronny Reagan brought back the B-2. And they came in handy.


26 posted on 07/08/2013 3:24:31 PM PDT by laplata (Liberals don't get it. Their minds have been stolen.)
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To: laplata

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread60763/pg1


27 posted on 07/08/2013 3:26:18 PM PDT by ontap (***)
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To: JSteff

Chi-coms have probably already stolen the plans for its successor.


28 posted on 07/08/2013 3:27:07 PM PDT by Trod Upon (Every penny given to film and TV media companies goes right into enemy coffers. Starve them out!)
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To: Stingray
Yes. Why else do you think Obama cancelled it?

LOL - bingo.

29 posted on 07/08/2013 3:30:40 PM PDT by Talisker (One who commands, must obey.)
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To: ontap

Awesome! Thanks, ontap.


30 posted on 07/08/2013 3:33:01 PM PDT by laplata (Liberals don't get it. Their minds have been stolen.)
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To: Trod Upon
Chi-coms have probably already stolen the plans for its successor.

Sure we just didn't sell them to them?

31 posted on 07/08/2013 3:35:13 PM PDT by 03A3 (The reset is gonna be epic.)
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To: laplata

F22..in service 170
SU35..in service 6


32 posted on 07/08/2013 3:35:16 PM PDT by Doogle (USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated))
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To: ColdOne

I would think the Russians have most of our classified avionics and countermeasures data.. I would guess that the F22 is better though, avionics/countermeasures(ECM)-wise, but the SU35 is more agile. But does agility really matter when the other guy can shoot you down from miles away? Hmmm. The SU35 definitely makes for a better airshow whereas the F22 is comparatively boring. But in war, F22 probably has the edge.


33 posted on 07/08/2013 3:35:18 PM PDT by CivilWarBrewing
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To: Doogle

F22..in service 170
SU35..in service 6


Thanks. I was going by Wickipedia.

Well, it looks like one F-22 could take out all 6 SU35’s.


34 posted on 07/08/2013 3:37:00 PM PDT by laplata (Liberals don't get it. Their minds have been stolen.)
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To: laplata
"Who knows what kind of aircraft we have that we haven’t seen yet."

Hey, that's 'America pre-Obama' mindset! Get with it! Although there was that previously unknown stealth helicopter we dropped at Bin Laden's house.. I do believe the Aurora bomber exists, and has for years:

But here is the GREATEST AIRCRAFT EVER BUILT, CIRCA 1957:

SR-71, YEAH!!!!!!

35 posted on 07/08/2013 3:45:23 PM PDT by CivilWarBrewing
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To: Doogle

It was a bit hypnotic, like watching an aquarium fish swim around a tank. A fish, instead of a bird because the craft performed maneuvers that a bird could not or would not do. Thanks for posting the link.


36 posted on 07/08/2013 3:47:19 PM PDT by ransomnote
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To: CivilWarBrewing

Thank you for info.


37 posted on 07/08/2013 3:49:03 PM PDT by ColdOne (I miss my poochie... Tasha 2000~3/14/11)
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To: CivilWarBrewing

Right on!!


38 posted on 07/08/2013 3:50:17 PM PDT by laplata (Liberals don't get it. Their minds have been stolen.)
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To: ransomnote
...the craft performed maneuvers that a bird could not or would not do

...you've never seen a pissed off red tail hawk show a murder of crows he's had enough of their harassment..*smiles*

39 posted on 07/08/2013 3:52:17 PM PDT by Doogle (USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated))
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To: Doogle
Russ airshows like the Russian Ballet are a thing of beauty... still i'm not sure how those maneuvers will hold up in an arena where speed is life
40 posted on 07/08/2013 4:00:40 PM PDT by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: spel_grammer_an_punct_polise

Superficial. This is a better plane that the F-15, or the F-16, by far. And with advanced radars and fire control it has proven to be a formidable aircraft.

Russia will sell heaps, orders are flowing in.


41 posted on 07/08/2013 4:09:22 PM PDT by John Valentine (Deep in the Heart of Texas)
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To: spel_grammer_an_punct_polise
I would advice you to study military history. During WWII Russian T-34 tanks was simple but way better than US Shermans and German Panzers. Their fighters (after 1943)was superior killing machines that was feared by German pilots. AK-47 is more reliable and way better than M-16( my personal combat experience).Never underestimate your opponent.
42 posted on 07/08/2013 4:14:46 PM PDT by QQQQ
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To: CivilWarBrewing

Absolete with today’s satellites...


43 posted on 07/08/2013 4:20:48 PM PDT by QQQQ
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To: Doogle

I love to watch this type of performance...but the poor photography skills kept me from enjoying it. Zooming in too close, losing the aircraft in the sky, jittery view...I guess I’m getting too cranky. I had to turn it off. Maybe I’ll enjoy it more when my Big Gulp has worn off (sorry NYC. Heh heh). Thanks for posting it even though I’m a whiner.


44 posted on 07/08/2013 4:21:09 PM PDT by Imnidiot (This space for Rent)
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To: Imnidiot

...that is the “official” air show vid too...


45 posted on 07/08/2013 4:24:02 PM PDT by Doogle (USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated))
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To: ColdOne; laplata
The F-22 is a better plane in every single metric that matters. The Raptor is by far stealthier in botj RCS and infrared, has a better radar and avionics suite, is almost as maneuverable as the SU35 at subsonic speed and is far more maneuverable than the SU35 at supersonic speeds (where it really counts), can supercruise with a full weapons payload (while the SU35 can only do low level supercruise with a bare A2A load out),can go higher etc. In essence, the Raptor is a better plane in every way.

Please note that the Raptor was conceptualized to duel with future Soviet super fighters, that with the collapse of the USSR are only starting to come out now with the SU35 being the lower end and the PakFa the upper end. The Raptor was meant to match and defeat them.

In a nutshell the Raptor is better than anything currently flying operationally. That includes the SU35, as well as the J20, J31, and PakFa stealth fighters. The only problem with the Raptor is there are not enough of them.

46 posted on 07/08/2013 4:25:08 PM PDT by spetznaz (Nuclear-tipped Ballistic Missiles: The Ultimate Phallic Symbol)
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To: ontap

I beleive you are thinking of the B-1 Lancer. Thank you.


47 posted on 07/08/2013 4:36:40 PM PDT by jttpwalsh
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To: QQQQ
You're partially right!!! German tanks were superior to Sherman's but were just simply to complicated for battle situations, T-34 was a superior tank. Russians had nothing comparable to the P-51 with the Merlin engine. The Mig-15 was a good fighter but fell way short of the F-85!!! The Russians have the same problem now they have always had. Their engines are to big and guzzle to much gas, hence the huge air intakes. F-22 has super cruise which means they can engage at high speed and stay at high speed, unless the Ruskies have stolen that technology as well they can't. It is just as important to not OVER estimate your opponent!!!
48 posted on 07/08/2013 4:38:36 PM PDT by ontap (***)
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To: jttpwalsh

You are absolutely right sir....I’ve always said they put that damn 2 to close to the damn 1!!!!LOL


49 posted on 07/08/2013 4:41:32 PM PDT by ontap (***)
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To: ontap

Good point ! :)


50 posted on 07/08/2013 4:42:27 PM PDT by jttpwalsh
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