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I Can No Longer Tolerate Rush Limbaugh Misrepresenting Medicare
self post | July 9, 2013 | Bob Ireland

Posted on 07/09/2013 11:15:43 AM PDT by Bob Ireland

For some years I have listened to Rush Limbaugh, and heard him picture Medicare recipients as some sort of ungrateful leaches sucking off of the public dole. He characterizes them as resisting having to pay a dime for their medical coverage.

Being a fan of Rush, I have tolerated this misguidance on his part and sent him e-mails [I am 24-7 member] trying to save him from being caught in a 'lie'. He has never responded to these e-mails - for whatever reason.

Then yesterday - Monday - he mentioned a story about the Congress considering a bill to make Medicare recipients pay 'a few pennies' for their medical coverage - and the bill going down to defeat. I simply cannot remain silent in the face of this total fabrication.

I have been on Medicare for 15 years. My Medicare Part B presently costs me a little pocket change short of $100 a month - a little less that $1,200 a year. That money is deducted out of my Social Security check before I ever receive it. That benefit offers to pay 80% of my allowable medical bills, and I am responsible for the other 20%.

In my case - since I look at government programs with a jaundiced eye - I have signed my Medicare obligations over to a private HMO [called an Advantage Plan]. However, Obama's health care plan has drained the Medicare treasury by hundreds of billions of dollars; therefore the future of the program is in question. In some states I understand the Advantage Plans have already been canceled. Many doctors and hospitals are trying to figure how to get free of Medicare since the Medicare payments are either delayed, diminished or missing altogether. I still cannot be sure my HMO will be part of Medicare next year.

BUT, back to the main theme of this article: How many FReepers pay $1,200 a year for their medical insurance? Probably some do; likely most do not. I am not complaining about paying for my health care - I voluntarily and happily pay the premium.

Furthermore, if it becomes a matter of saving the dollar from total collapse I would accept the cancellation of Medicare altogether. Just stop charging me $100 a month and send the program into the Bermuda Triangle. I have led a fruitful life. HOWEVER, under Obama's healthcare program, that cannot happen. My Medicare could be cancelled and I could be set with the old Indian squaw by the side of the road to waste away - but I would still have to pay my health care premium in order to provide health care for younger folk.

Would someone who can get through to Rush Limbaugh get these points across to him - if he is really interested - so that people can understand the truth about Medicare - not a bunch of myths and misrepresentations.


TOPICS: Health/Medicine; Society
KEYWORDS: abortion; clarity; deathpanels; medicare; mockingbird; obamacare; obamacaremedicare; obamamedicare; oneparty; resistsimpeachment; rush; rushlimbaugh; sellsredblue; zerocare
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Perhaps you will say that my health insurance is cheap compared to its obligations. Then let's have that debate publicly instead of the discussion of how I am a public leach sponging off of everybody else's hard work and sweat.
1 posted on 07/09/2013 11:15:43 AM PDT by Bob Ireland
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To: Bob Ireland
It's all about you, dude. It's all about you.
2 posted on 07/09/2013 11:18:20 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (This is a sarcasm tag for the retards unable to recognize sarcasm.)
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To: Bob Ireland

Quit him years ago over his bombastic ignorance about farming.


3 posted on 07/09/2013 11:19:26 AM PDT by WestTexasWend
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To: Bob Ireland

Since I’m retired military my “free” healthcare for life is going to cost me $1,200 - as it stands right now - when they kick me off TriCare into TriCare for Life (medicaid) at 62.

When that happens I’m on the hook for part B also.


4 posted on 07/09/2013 11:19:26 AM PDT by PeteB570 ( Islam is the sea in which the Terrorist Shark swims. The deeper the sea the larger the shark.)
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To: Bob Ireland

You need to listen a little closer. I’ve listened to him for 21 years and I haven’t heard that at all.


5 posted on 07/09/2013 11:20:29 AM PDT by CMailBag
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To: gonzo; MinuteGal; M Kehoe; mcmuffin; Q-ManRN; Matchett-PI; Seeking the truth; JulieRNR21; ...

I’m mad as hurl and I am NOT going to take it anymore! :-)


6 posted on 07/09/2013 11:20:41 AM PDT by Bob Ireland (The Democrat Party is a criminal enterprise)
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To: Bob Ireland

Don’t take Rush personally. He bashes baby boomers too (even though he is one) because he thinks we’re all leftist loon ex-hippies.


7 posted on 07/09/2013 11:20:55 AM PDT by miss marmelstein ( Richard Lives Yet!)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
***It's all about you***

Thank you for that wonderfully pithy remark; I foresee a great future for you.

8 posted on 07/09/2013 11:21:56 AM PDT by Bob Ireland (The Democrat Party is a criminal enterprise)
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To: Bob Ireland

“My Medicare could be cancelled and I could be set with the old Indian squaw by the side of the road to waste away - but I would still have to pay my health care premium in order to provide health care for younger folk.”

So you’re complaining about money that younger folks are paying off their payroll goes to your medical care and not direct to your pocket?

Cry me a river.

Exempt us from Social Security. I pay way more a month just for the sake of working and paying for your benefits.


9 posted on 07/09/2013 11:22:35 AM PDT by JCBreckenridge ("we are pilgrims in an unholy land")
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To: Bob Ireland
What ya gonna have when it all falls apart?

Same thing as everyone else...nuttin, that's what.

10 posted on 07/09/2013 11:22:57 AM PDT by rightwingextremist1776
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To: Bob Ireland

Enjoy your medicare, until the whole mess collapses into the basement.


11 posted on 07/09/2013 11:23:25 AM PDT by DManA
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To: miss marmelstein
***Don’t take Rush personally***

I am not taking any of this personally... Rush is not going to change anything in my life. I am trying to save him from being called a liar or a buffoon!

12 posted on 07/09/2013 11:24:11 AM PDT by Bob Ireland (The Democrat Party is a criminal enterprise)
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To: miss marmelstein

If boomers were as conservative as their parents, Obama never would have been elected.


13 posted on 07/09/2013 11:24:14 AM PDT by JCBreckenridge ("we are pilgrims in an unholy land")
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To: Bob Ireland
Would it make you feel better if Rush called you a grateful leech?
14 posted on 07/09/2013 11:24:58 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: JCBreckenridge

Your ignorance is indescribable.


15 posted on 07/09/2013 11:25:12 AM PDT by Bob Ireland (The Democrat Party is a criminal enterprise)
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To: Bob Ireland
You paid into it, didn't you.

Medicaid is different and is healthcare welfare. Some deserve assistance; many don't and those many consider it a free ride like welfare.

Also, the fact that Medicaid was and is mismanaged. Mismanaged means not accounting for inflation (a dollar 50 years ago is not the same dollar as today), increased medical costs (not accounting for inflation), fewer people paying into the fund (fewer workers, more retirees), politicians stealing from the fund, fraud, we are living longer which means that we will require more $ than we put into the fund.

All of the above will result in the fund running short sometime in the future.

16 posted on 07/09/2013 11:25:30 AM PDT by dhs12345
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To: Bob Ireland

I have never heard Rush say what you claim about Medicare. I’ve been listening since college and been a 24/7 subscriber since it became available.


17 posted on 07/09/2013 11:26:02 AM PDT by ilgipper (Obama is proving that very bad ideas can be wrapped up in pretty words)
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To: Bob Ireland
How many FReepers pay $1,200 a year for their medical insurance?

I'm not sure I understand what you are saying here. Are you implying that you think most FReepers pay less than that, or nothing at all, for health insurance?
18 posted on 07/09/2013 11:26:15 AM PDT by rightwingintelligentsia (Truth/Lies; Liberty/Tyranny--WHAT DIFFERENCE DOES IT MAKE??)
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To: Bob Ireland

Alright, so you pay $1,200 a year for a health care program that would cost you probably 5 to 10 times as much if it were not subsidized by the government. You are still getting a boatload of free money from the government. Cry me a river.


19 posted on 07/09/2013 11:26:19 AM PDT by arista
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To: 1rudeboy
***if Rush called you a grateful leech? ***

Yeah... that might hep... that might hep.

20 posted on 07/09/2013 11:26:44 AM PDT by Bob Ireland (The Democrat Party is a criminal enterprise)
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To: Bob Ireland

I’m not for government being involved in anything except military and border control , keeping international things out. that’s it.


21 posted on 07/09/2013 11:27:10 AM PDT by Democrat_media (IRS rigged election for Obama and democrats by shutting down tea party)
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To: dhs12345
Sorry. I meant Medicare. Medicare is mismanaged. Actually both funds were mismanaged.
22 posted on 07/09/2013 11:27:11 AM PDT by dhs12345
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To: Bob Ireland

Currently about $8000 a year for a family of 4. Plus max of $6000 per person/$1200 per family out of pocket if we actually have to use it. Expecting $18,000-$20,000 before too long after BamyCare fully kicks in.


23 posted on 07/09/2013 11:27:36 AM PDT by Sparticus (Tar and feathers for the next dumb@ss Republican that uses the word bipartisanship.)
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To: Bob Ireland

I’ve been listening to Rush for 20 years and I have never once heard him refer to Medicare recipients as “leaches.” You probably rarely, if ever, tune into his show, and are merely responding to caricatures of him you have heard from hostile sources.


24 posted on 07/09/2013 11:27:46 AM PDT by attiladhun2 (The Free World has a new leader--his name is Benjamin Netanyahu)
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To: Bob Ireland

Are you not required to accept Medicade since that is the only health insurance available by law after 65?


25 posted on 07/09/2013 11:28:26 AM PDT by nevergore
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To: Bob Ireland
In some states I understand the Advantage Plans have already been canceled.
I don't know what the future holds with regard to seniors' coverage, but if the Advantage Plans disappear, there's also Medicare Supplement Insurance.
Government sponsored, they're often called "MediGap" plans and cover up to the full 20% that Medicare doesn't. Medigap Policy Search
26 posted on 07/09/2013 11:28:42 AM PDT by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: Bob Ireland
He has never responded to these e-mails - for whatever reason.

Maybe it's your tone of voice......or maybe it's the other 10,000 in his inbox that he's trying to answer before he gets to yours.


27 posted on 07/09/2013 11:29:09 AM PDT by Hot Tabasco (I ain't no cracker, I'm a white a$$ soda biscuit...)
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To: Bob Ireland
Medicare to Obamacare:

Socialism Lite being replaced by Socialism Classic

Everyone that has looked at Medicare knows that more money is going out than is going in.

However high your premium is, however low doctors believe the payments to them are, that still doesn't change the fact that Medicare is losing money.

The difference is being made up in taxes and deficit spending. That will only work for so long.

28 posted on 07/09/2013 11:29:15 AM PDT by who_would_fardels_bear
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To: Bob Ireland

I have no argument with you, just wanted to correct one misconception you’re making.

You asked “How many Freepers are paying $1200 per year for their medical benefits...probably not many.”

I’d say that’s a major misconception. $1200 per year is cheap.

My husband works for a large organization, and we have never, in the many years he’s worked there, paid less than $250 per month, now it’s $300 per month, and that’s just for the two of us, no kid’s included. In that policy, we have a deductible, and copays on most things as well as copays on meds. The insurance policy costs the company $1200 per month...we pay 1/4, thus $300. It’s always been that way.

As far as wage/cost of insurance, his company took a pay cut of 4% 4 years ago, and have not had any raises since...so the insurance is costing us more in real dollars.

My son works for a Fortune 100 company and he pays about the same as we do for their “family plan” insurance policy.

So $100 per month is not top end. My dad pays around $250 per month for his medigap policy, but it pays off in the end because they pick up the 20% Medicare won’t pay.


29 posted on 07/09/2013 11:29:16 AM PDT by memyselfandi59
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

I have no idea what other people pay for health care; I know some pay nothing; likely others pay thousands... that changes nothing in my post.


30 posted on 07/09/2013 11:29:18 AM PDT by Bob Ireland (The Democrat Party is a criminal enterprise)
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To: Bob Ireland

I pay over $600 a month for health insurance and still have SS deducted. I wish I paid $100 a month.


31 posted on 07/09/2013 11:29:30 AM PDT by Resolute Conservative
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To: arista

total ignorance


32 posted on 07/09/2013 11:30:08 AM PDT by Bob Ireland (The Democrat Party is a criminal enterprise)
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To: Bob Ireland
I am not taking any of this personally...

Uh huh.

33 posted on 07/09/2013 11:31:11 AM PDT by Misterioso (It don't mean a thing if it ain't got that swing - Duke Ellington)
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To: Bob Ireland

The plan to paint old folks as leeches sucking the life blood out of the producers is working well. My advantage plan will disappear next year and, like you, I pay for Medicare much like I did my working years. Well, I’ve got to go now and get about dying.


34 posted on 07/09/2013 11:32:41 AM PDT by JimSEA
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To: nevergore
***Are you not required to accept Medicade***

You are in over your head... study the difference of Medicare from Medicaid - a welfare program.

35 posted on 07/09/2013 11:32:44 AM PDT by Bob Ireland (The Democrat Party is a criminal enterprise)
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To: Bob Ireland
Hmmm Are you sure you are talking about the Rush Limbaugh from Cape Girardeau MO.? I have been listening for a long, long time and never heard anything like that.

Must be a different Rush.

36 posted on 07/09/2013 11:32:57 AM PDT by mc5cents (Pray for America)
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To: nevergore

Check your spelling and your facts.


37 posted on 07/09/2013 11:33:18 AM PDT by steve86 (Acerbic by Nature, not NurtureĀ™)
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To: Bob Ireland

Thank you for posting; there is also a deductible every year ($150??) and then the Part D Drug Plan is a separate premium for those who have regular Medicare...so about $140 a month comes right out of your SS payment after the deductible has been met. And of course, the additional 20% coinsurance due for services paid for —this is Medicare.

Medicaid, however, is different and a LOT of people, including those who work IN the health insurance industry confuse the two. Which is amazing, but they don’t understand the difference.

Medicaid has NO premiums and NO copays and NO co-insurance and NO deductibles...NO money out of pocket period. It is considered a “program”, NOT insurance and is run by the state.

My parents did not “leech” off of Medicare and paid for premiums and coinsurance and a lot of other things not covered-but they were grateful to have it as they had no other insurance when they retired.

So again, thank you for posting...


38 posted on 07/09/2013 11:34:33 AM PDT by homegroan (Never make someone a priority when all you are to them is an option....)
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To: Bob Ireland

You signed up in 1997 to post this?


39 posted on 07/09/2013 11:35:00 AM PDT by Tijeras_Slim
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To: attiladhun2
...are merely responding to caricatures of him you have heard from hostile sources.

I do remember youngish anti-Tea Party protestors asking their elderly opposite about Medicare, and posting the responses to YouTube, thinking that they were being clever.

40 posted on 07/09/2013 11:35:41 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: Bob Ireland
I have been on Medicare for 15 years. My Medicare Part B presently costs me a little pocket change short of $100 a month - a little less that $1,200 a year. That money is deducted out of my Social Security check before I ever receive it. That benefit offers to pay 80% of my allowable medical bills, and I am responsible for the other 20%.

What did it cost the taxpayer?

41 posted on 07/09/2013 11:35:45 AM PDT by Alex Murphy ("...Someone handed the keys to the Forum to the OPC and its sympathizers...")
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To: Bob Ireland
Perhaps you will say that my health insurance is cheap compared to its obligations. Then let's have that debate publicly instead of the discussion of how I am a public leach sponging off of everybody else's hard work and sweat.

Actually, on average, medicare recipients will receive a hugely greater amount of benefits compared to the Medicare taxes they've paid and the $1200 annual premium. Honestly considered, you have to see that Medicare is really just an old-age welfare benefit - a transfer payment.

42 posted on 07/09/2013 11:35:50 AM PDT by Sparticus (Tar and feathers for the next dumb@ss Republican that uses the word bipartisanship.)
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To: oh8eleven
***Medicare Supplement Insurance. Government sponsored***

Medicare Supplements are not govt sponsored - they cover the 20% Medicare does not cover and are paid by the Medicare recipient - usually about $150 - $200 month - to a private insurance company [like AARP (shudder)]

43 posted on 07/09/2013 11:36:01 AM PDT by Bob Ireland (The Democrat Party is a criminal enterprise)
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To: Bob Ireland

I bet you believe in a lockbox too...

I hope you take out >>> than whatever you put in so that the system collapses sooner.


44 posted on 07/09/2013 11:36:09 AM PDT by JCBreckenridge ("we are pilgrims in an unholy land")
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To: Bob Ireland

There should be no Medicare. Government has no business providing medical coverage for any citizen. It is up to the citizen to see to their own and their familys health care.


45 posted on 07/09/2013 11:36:10 AM PDT by 7thson (I've got a seat at the big conference table! I'm gonna paint my logo on it!)
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To: PeteB570

You can reject Part B Medicare and just go with the the free Part A inpatient coverage. My wife and I are both veterans and get out medical care from the VA system. Unless I travel out of the coverage area of a VA facility, they provided me with outpatient coverage for just my co-pays for prescriptions. Medicare will send you a new card showing only Part A coverage. I need the $100 a month for income, more than I need duplicate outpatient coverage.


46 posted on 07/09/2013 11:36:28 AM PDT by HotHunt
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To: Bob Ireland

government doesn’t work

medicare and social security have 112 trillion $ in unfunded liabilities . they will go bankrupt.

you are saying that the private sector, and the free market and hard work can’t provide healhtcare but need government programs to do it. you are wrong. government is the cancer.

it is your belief that government is the solution that is the problem with this country as we are headed toward a communist state.

what do you think you are conservative? i thought conservatives were for a constitutionally limited gov? medicare is unconstitutional also.


47 posted on 07/09/2013 11:36:41 AM PDT by Democrat_media (IRS rigged election for Obama and democrats by shutting down tea party)
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To: Bob Ireland
I have a high-deductible plan. My wife has a chronic condition that requires many prescriptions. Based on the numbers in your post, my premium contribution, fees and out-of pocket pre-deductible expenses amount to roughly 3-4 times what you are paying per annum.

I used to have affordable copay insurance, but Obama took that away. My company does not offer insurance options other than high deductible plans. I cannot afford a better private plan, and I cannot afford to be without insurance.

I am not eligible for Medicare.

With all due respect, Rush is right. Someone else is paying your way. Must be nice.

48 posted on 07/09/2013 11:36:53 AM PDT by jboot (It can happen here because it IS happening here.)
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To: Bob Ireland

What he said was way back the gov’t wanted to charge 10 cents a month for medicare - why aren’t you yelling about how Obamalamadingdong is taking 700 billion out of medicare to pay for his Obamacare ....????? You didn’t listen.


49 posted on 07/09/2013 11:36:59 AM PDT by SkyDancer (Live your life in such a way that the Westboro church will want to picket your funeral.)
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To: Sparticus

Oh noes. He might call you ignorant. Whatever shall we do?


50 posted on 07/09/2013 11:37:01 AM PDT by JCBreckenridge ("we are pilgrims in an unholy land")
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