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Dispute over dead dogs, goats in Rock Rapids, Iowa, won't lead to charges
SiouxCityJournal ^ | July 9, 2013 | CONRAD SWANSON

Posted on 07/10/2013 4:15:46 PM PDT by Daffynition

ROCK RAPIDS, Iowa | Amy Fluit and her family were having a hard time Tuesday believing their neighbor shot their three Saint Bernards instead of calling to tell them the dogs were eating one of his prize goats.

Neither the Fluits nor the neighbor, Mike Bus, face charges in the incident, Lyon County Sheriff Stewart Vander Stoep said.

Bus did not break any laws when he shot the dogs because they presented a threat to his property, the sheriff said. There's also no local ordinance against dogs roaming free.

(Excerpt) Read more at siouxcityjournal.com ...


TOPICS: Pets/Animals; Weird Stuff
KEYWORDS: dog
Sad these dogs paid the price of human stupidity.
1 posted on 07/10/2013 4:15:46 PM PDT by Daffynition
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To: Daffynition

They’ve been domesticated for 10,000 years but there are still wolf programs in their brains that wake up from time to time.


2 posted on 07/10/2013 4:24:54 PM PDT by DManA
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To: DManA

The little wolf part doesn’t bother me as much as say the ‘war dog’ instinct of certain breads.


3 posted on 07/10/2013 4:31:48 PM PDT by Usagi_yo
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To: DManA

Curious that the farmer [who seemed to know the dogs] didn’t contact the owners in the first instance.

There’s more to this story, than the bleeding heart author didn’t care to include.


4 posted on 07/10/2013 4:31:55 PM PDT by Daffynition (Stand Your Ground)
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To: Daffynition

My guess is that the dogs had been over to “visit” in the past, Bus complained about it, and was blown off.


5 posted on 07/10/2013 4:36:18 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: Usagi_yo
Yeah, really.


6 posted on 07/10/2013 4:40:49 PM PDT by Salamander (.......Uber Alice!.......)
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7 posted on 07/10/2013 4:43:49 PM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Qui me amat, amat et canem meum.)
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To: 1rudeboy

I do know hunters in the northwoods, who hunt wild game for food, unapologetically shoot dogs who are running deer.
Shoot, shovel.....and the rest.


8 posted on 07/10/2013 4:47:53 PM PDT by Daffynition (Stand Your Ground)
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To: 1rudeboy; Daffynition

It was the 2nd kill in as many days. They were caught in the act the 2nd time.

I raise sheep and I wouldn’t bother calling the owners either before killing dogs caught in the act either. Once dogs form their feral pack, they will return to the behavior every chance they get.


9 posted on 07/10/2013 4:55:20 PM PDT by Valpal1 (If the police can t solve a problem with brute force, they ll find a way to fix it with brute force)
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To: Daffynition

In Kansas, any dog attacking livestock may be shot.


10 posted on 07/10/2013 5:01:35 PM PDT by centurion316
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To: Daffynition

Every farmer I ever heard of shoots dogs for attacking livestock. A sad necessity, but a necessity just the same.


11 posted on 07/10/2013 5:13:24 PM PDT by GenXteacher (You have chosen dishonor to avoid war; you shall have war also.)
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To: Daffynition

Goat meat!?

Great, now I’m starving.


12 posted on 07/10/2013 5:29:52 PM PDT by In Another Time... (..In another place...)
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Three dogs in a pack attacking a goat. Yep. Shoot ‘em.


13 posted on 07/10/2013 5:38:46 PM PDT by Rio
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To: Daffynition
Yes, it is very sad that Amy didn't care enough to controll her pet dogs.

Farmers tend to care about their livestock, and I didn't read anywhere that the goats had invaded Amy's property....

14 posted on 07/10/2013 5:41:12 PM PDT by sarasmom (The obvious takes longer to discover for the obtuse.)
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To: Daffynition

Anyone who lives in a rural area better be aware of laws about domestic animals harassing livestock.


15 posted on 07/10/2013 5:46:36 PM PDT by lastchance ("Nisi credideritis, non intelligetis" St. Augustine)
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To: Daffynition

Too bad the dogs’ owner didn’t keep them confined to her yard.


16 posted on 07/10/2013 6:16:00 PM PDT by exDemMom (Now that I've finally accepted that I'm living a bad hair life, I'm more at peace with the world.)
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To: centurion316
In Michigan if you have any hoofed animal you can legally shoot any dog that comes on your property...I followed a big Shepard type dog that had been on our property several times...didn't know the dog or who it belonged to, but carried a gun when I went to the farthest barn from the house...happened to see him one day when I was sitting on the porch, got into the car and followed the dog home (as he trotted down the middle of the road) He turned into one of the homes about 1/2 mile from my farm.....I pulled into the driveway and tooted the horn for the owner to come out...when she did I asked her (while staying in my car) if that dog was hers, she said yes......

I was so ticked off at the dog and owner I wasn't sweet, just told her the dog had been on my property several times, I have a flock of goats and I can legally shoot that dog if he is on my property again..Rolled up my window and backed out of the drive way.....she got the message and I didn't see the dog running anymore but was usually chained to his dog house, then one day he just disappeared....It wasn't me, but several neighbors had cattle and were equally POed at that dog.....

17 posted on 07/10/2013 6:41:07 PM PDT by goat granny
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To: goat granny

My dogs, as well as the other dogs on our farm road do not bother the livestock and know the difference between the domestic animals and the wild ones. They act accordingly. My dogs will nip at the heels of my neighbors cows if they come onto my property which they do occasionally as my neighbor does not tend to his fences properly. They just herd them back where they belong.

Once when one of my neighbors cattle pointed all four hooves skyward, one of my dogs spent the night guarding the carcass as the neighbors were no where to be found and the dog wouldn’t leave the body.


18 posted on 07/10/2013 6:51:38 PM PDT by centurion316
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To: Daffynition

In Colorado, dogs chasing range cattle or any other livestock are shot.


19 posted on 07/10/2013 7:10:06 PM PDT by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of rotten politics smelled around the planet.)
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To: Daffynition

2 years ago my aunt found all her 40 chickens in her barnyard enclosure killed. Not 40 ft from them is her neighbor’s house and small yard with a small terrier. She said she KNOWS that dog did it; gets out sometimes and didn’t know of any other dogs that get out.

So sad having to tell my little toddler son why they were missing. This year she’s replenished.

If she had a gun I’m sure she’d love the opportunity.


20 posted on 07/10/2013 8:14:15 PM PDT by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Technological progress cannot be legislated.)
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To: centurion316
The problem with farmers with cattle that get loose, they become liabel for any damage the cattle do to other peoples property.

Coming from town one day when I still had the farm, stopped at the cross road and noticed 3 calfs, probably about 10 months old that had found a way to get out of the pasture. (the cattle farm was on the corner. Drove in and informed him his cattle were loose....he called his dog into the pickup and he followed me to where the cattle were on a neighbors lawn munching, It was interesting because he let the dog out of the pickup and those cows knew exactly where the hole in the fence and scooted right back to the hole they came out of.

Had a friend that raise Angus and she would have problems chasing her cattle when occasionally the electric fence would go down. What ticked her off was it always seem to be when her husband was at work....(friend of my husbands and worked at Michigan Bell before the breakup of ATT and baby bells were invented by the government as they thought ATT was too big. All state bells were under ATT.

21 posted on 07/11/2013 12:17:59 AM PDT by goat granny
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To: centurion316; Valpal1; GenXteacher
Forget *who let the dogs out* ...In KS, photographing cattle from the air for NatGeo , will get you a night in jail.
22 posted on 07/11/2013 12:34:38 AM PDT by Daffynition (Stand Your Ground)
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To: Daffynition

Except he wasn’t working for NatGeo at the time and wasn’t arrested for flying over the property.

“We had an obligation to the property owner, since they had driven on the property without permission and it was clearly posted.”

Agricultural eco-terrorism is a problem in many farm states. I’m glad they were arrested.

Just because it’s out in the boondocks and nobody seems to be around doesn’t mean you can do whatever you want on somebody’s property. There is always some urban ninny that thinks property rights don’t apply “out in the country”.


23 posted on 07/11/2013 7:46:23 AM PDT by Valpal1 (If the police can t solve a problem with brute force, they ll find a way to fix it with brute force)
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To: Valpal1
Thanks for dotting all the i's....[hope it makes you feel better.] But it was about *trespassing*.


24 posted on 07/11/2013 3:58:39 PM PDT by Daffynition (Stand Your Ground)
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