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If You Know How a Cow Feels, Will You Eat Less Meat?
Scientific American ^ | 07/11/2013 | By Anne C. Mulkern and ClimateWire

Posted on 07/12/2013 7:29:20 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

STANFORD, Calif. -- Inside a lab on the Stanford University campus here, students experienced what it might feel like to be a cow.

They donned a virtual reality helmet and walked on hands and feet while in a virtual mirror they saw themselves as bovine. As the animal was jabbed with an electrical prod, a lab worker poked a volunteer's side with a sticklike device. The ground shook to simulate the prod's vibrations. The cow at the end was led toward a slaughterhouse.

Participants then recorded what they ate for the next week. The study sought to uncover whether temporarily "becoming" a cow prompted reduced meat consumption.

The motivation wasn't to make people vegetarians, said Jeremy Bailenson, director of Stanford's Virtual Human Interaction Lab. But the project hoped to uncover whether virtual reality could alter behaviors that tax the environment and contribute to climate change.

"If somebody becomes an animal, do they gain empathy for that animal and think about its plight?" Bailenson asked. "In this case, empathy toward the animal also coincides with an environmental benefit, which is that [not eating] animals consumes less energy."

It's one of several environment-related experiments Bailenson is conducting in the lab, all tailored toward revealing whether there are new ways to encourage environmental preservation. Volunteers also have virtually chopped down a tree, a study aimed at examining attitudes toward paper use. Others took a virtual reality shower while eating lumps of coal -- literally consuming it -- to gain insight into how much was needed to heat the water.

(Excerpt) Read more at scientificamerican.com ...


TOPICS: Food; Science; Society
KEYWORDS: carnivore; cow; vegetarianism
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1 posted on 07/12/2013 7:29:20 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Ah, No.


2 posted on 07/12/2013 7:31:45 AM PDT by AU72
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To: SeekAndFind

OMG.....wonder if we could get money to study what it feels like to be a LIBERAL IDIOT!


3 posted on 07/12/2013 7:32:20 AM PDT by goodnesswins (R.I.P. Doherty, Smith, Stevens, Woods.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Along those lines: If they knew how the BABY felt would they stop doing abortions?

I would have a very difficult time eating meat after going to a slaughterhouse, but I like meat, just couldn’t watch be in the area. Most likely would have to turn to fish/seafood and chicken.


4 posted on 07/12/2013 7:32:48 AM PDT by madison10
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To: SeekAndFind

This is what “college” has become. Teaching morons what it’s like to be a cow. Have you ever asked a cow for the time? What day it is?


5 posted on 07/12/2013 7:34:18 AM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (If America is a nation of immigrants, where's my free stuff?)
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To: SeekAndFind
Wish I could afford more fillet Mignon (or however you spell it)
6 posted on 07/12/2013 7:35:20 AM PDT by SkyDancer (Live your life in such a way that the Westboro church will want to picket your funeral.)
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To: madison10

Or we can just raise our own or buy it directly from the farmer who raises it the old-fashioned way. Good point about the abortions. There are far too many people who say they care about animals, but care nothing for unborn humans.


7 posted on 07/12/2013 7:35:29 AM PDT by Elvina (crimethink - To even consider any thought not in line with the principles of Ingsoc.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Since the only cows I eat are dead they don’t feel anything.


8 posted on 07/12/2013 7:35:59 AM PDT by pax_et_bonum (Never Forget the Seals of Extortion 17 - and God Bless America)
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To: SeekAndFind

If this is how a baby feels, will you abort less?


9 posted on 07/12/2013 7:37:53 AM PDT by deadrock (I am someone else.)
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To: SeekAndFind


10 posted on 07/12/2013 7:38:37 AM PDT by sten (fighting tyranny never goes out of style)
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To: deadrock

“If this is how a baby feels, will you abort less?”

WINNER!


11 posted on 07/12/2013 7:39:02 AM PDT by bolobaby
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To: SeekAndFind

I don’t know how a sewer worker feels, either, but guess what I’m not going to stop doing?


12 posted on 07/12/2013 7:39:21 AM PDT by william clark (Ecclesiastes 10:2)
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To: SeekAndFind

Animals do not feel painas people do.

Firstly, they are simply dropped on the ground at birth and within a short period of time are up and running with their mom. No human can do that.

A couple of months later, they are gathered, roped, tied down, injected with vaccines, branded (burned), any horns are cut off and nubs burned, if male, the lower two thirds of their scrotum are cut away and their testicles pulled from their body. In every single case, when they are let go, they will jump up and run away, sometimes charge a cowboy. They will all walk off with their moms.

No human could endure that and walk away. THEY DO NOT FEEL PAIN LIKE HUMANS!!


13 posted on 07/12/2013 7:39:48 AM PDT by rey
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To: SeekAndFind

This article really mooved me.


14 posted on 07/12/2013 7:40:31 AM PDT by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: All armed conservatives.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Have you ever heard the tortured screams of Broccoli as it is being harvested?


15 posted on 07/12/2013 7:41:44 AM PDT by BwanaNdege ("To learn who rules over you simply find out who you are not allowed to criticize"- Voltaire)
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To: SeekAndFind
So what would happen if they buried you up to your neck in dirt for a couple months, yanked you out of the ground by the hair, diced you, and threw you into boiling water?

Would we then weep for the lowly carrot?

16 posted on 07/12/2013 7:41:48 AM PDT by edpc (Wilby 2016)
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To: SeekAndFind

if you look at a cow you will see a large cube of meat with four short legs sticking out below. If you read about cows you will discover they have five stomachs for converting grass or grain to beef. I think they were perfectly designed to produce beef for some reason.


17 posted on 07/12/2013 7:42:38 AM PDT by Archytekt
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To: SeekAndFind

Only IDIOTS could think of spending this large sum of money on something so bizarre as this; while we continue to go deeper into unrecoverable debt.


18 posted on 07/12/2013 7:43:36 AM PDT by ThomasMore (Islam is the Whore of Babylon!)
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To: BwanaNdege

THAT’s the reply I was waiting for!


19 posted on 07/12/2013 7:43:43 AM PDT by bigbob
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To: madison10

A little meat mostly in the form of fish is probably beneficial, that is as far as I will go, even their deaths probably do take longer than the slaughter of livestock animals. Abortion has nothing to do with not eating meat. They don’t eat eggs not because the eggs are fertilized (they are not) but because they come from chicken that are badly mistreated on farms.


20 posted on 07/12/2013 7:45:27 AM PDT by erlayman
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To: SeekAndFind

Another no here. I think I’ll grill a burger right now.


21 posted on 07/12/2013 7:46:11 AM PDT by FXRP
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To: Archytekt
if you look at a cow you will see a large cube of meat with four short legs sticking out below.

Minecraft?


22 posted on 07/12/2013 7:48:40 AM PDT by rarestia (It's time to water the Tree of Liberty.)
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To: SeekAndFind
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23 posted on 07/12/2013 7:49:01 AM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: SeekAndFind

Dress like a cow and get your lunch for free today at Chick-fil-a.


24 posted on 07/12/2013 7:49:02 AM PDT by fulltlt
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To: SeekAndFind

Hold the prof under water for about an hour so he can learn how fish sticks feel.


25 posted on 07/12/2013 7:49:08 AM PDT by CrazyIvan (I'm so conservative I won't even wear progressive bifocals.)
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To: tumblindice

This article really mooved me.
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I found it absolutely bovine.


26 posted on 07/12/2013 7:49:26 AM PDT by pax_et_bonum (Never Forget the Seals of Extortion 17 - and God Bless America)
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To: SeekAndFind
No need for this: there's been an abundance of supply since last October, when I was diagnosed with diabetes. I think my meat intake has dropped to less than 1/2 pound per week, if that.

Oh, I've made up for it in other areas, as I follow Dr. Fuhrman's "Eat to Live" regimen (80-85%). Just had my second followup: HbA1c was 5.0, after being taken off metformin in February. Blood glucose has ranged between 100-115 over the past five months. Cholesterol in the 150s.

It's worth checking him out.

27 posted on 07/12/2013 7:49:31 AM PDT by Night Hides Not (The Tea Party was the earthquake, and Chick Fil A the tsunami...100's of aftershocks to come.)
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To: SeekAndFind
I love cows. They're delicious. Don't listen to the propaganda. </sarc>


28 posted on 07/12/2013 7:50:27 AM PDT by Perseverando (It's ALL about PEOPLE CONTROL!)
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To: SeekAndFind

This study is absurd as it only simulates the last few minutes of a steers life. There is a lot of “life” before that and much of it is unpleasant in my opinion. There are many videos on Youtube and elsewhere that depict the commercially-raised lifestock experience. It is pretty disgusting in my strongest opinion. But for me, vegetarianism is simply not an option.

So I got me a place outside town recently, and have begun raising chickens (for eggs and meat), turkeys, geese, pigs, and goats (for milk, mainly). I did so mainly because I have lately begun to think that meat and eggs and milk I raise myself is healthier. And tastier! Time will tell.

But also because I want to give my animals a life that is as happy as they could get. They are all pastured and pretty much do animal stuff all day. Which is mainly foraging for food and working stuff out, i.e. one-upping each other and looking to get lucky. Not too far removed from a corporate environment. And then I will give them a dignified and relatively painless death.

As for beef, we simply do not have enough land for a steer. So this fall we will buy a grass fed steer from a neighbor. So, problem solved.

Not sure when I became concerned about the treatment of “meat animals” as I grew up in the Texas Panhandle in proximity to dozens of feed lots. Can’t explain it, just happy to have an alternative.


29 posted on 07/12/2013 7:50:46 AM PDT by 2big2fail
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To: edpc
VEGATARIANISM IS MOIDER!!!!

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30 posted on 07/12/2013 7:51:43 AM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: goodnesswins
OMG.....wonder if we could get money to study what it feels like to be a LIBERAL IDIOT!

Yes, but they still wouldn't taste good on the grill.

31 posted on 07/12/2013 7:53:19 AM PDT by PGR88
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To: madison10

Good point on abortions! Betcha they won’t think of that one.


32 posted on 07/12/2013 7:55:41 AM PDT by beaversmom
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To: SeekAndFind

And this is supposed to be “scientific?” Wow! What passes for science these days????!

Do these buffoons seriously think that crawling around on all fours gives anyone the real sensation of being a bovine? The only ways to do that are to either channel Hillary Clinton or have 90 percent of your brain removed.

But I repeat myself ...


33 posted on 07/12/2013 7:55:55 AM PDT by IronJack (=)
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To: rey

Actually, animals do feel pain as acutely as we do. They react differently because an animal in the wild that lays around feeling bad gets eaten. That’s one big problem dealing with prey animals like horses and cattle. Unless you are really experienced by the time you notice that they are sick, it can be too late.


34 posted on 07/12/2013 7:56:56 AM PDT by Himyar
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To: SeekAndFind

That would be NO!


35 posted on 07/12/2013 7:57:04 AM PDT by SECURE AMERICA (Where can I go to sign up for the American Revolution 2013 and the Crusades 2013?)
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To: SeekAndFind

We just need to raise cows that WANT to be eaten

(Just read The Hitchhikers Guide To The Galaxy)


36 posted on 07/12/2013 7:57:04 AM PDT by Mr. K (There are lies, damned lies, statistics, and democrat talking points.)
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To: goodnesswins

“OMG.....wonder if we could get money to study what it feels like to be a LIBERAL IDIOT!”

Don’t bother because I felt good when I was in the room when we fired their sorry asses. Oh, you mean them? Who gives a sh&t.


37 posted on 07/12/2013 7:57:20 AM PDT by max americana (fired liberals in our company after the election, & laughed while they cried (true story))
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To: SeekAndFind

I have heard that sacred cows make the best hamburgers.


38 posted on 07/12/2013 7:57:33 AM PDT by Fiji Hill
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To: Mr. K

Cows are just the larval stage of human feces.


39 posted on 07/12/2013 7:58:33 AM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: SeekAndFind

Let’s take this same thing and make it an unborn baby. Then we can undergo an abortion.


40 posted on 07/12/2013 8:00:44 AM PDT by pas
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To: madison10

I knew I should have read the comments first.


41 posted on 07/12/2013 8:01:19 AM PDT by pas
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To: SeekAndFind

This isn’t science, it is polemics. Thinly disguised at that. If these are the scientists we are training we might just as well close up shop and give the keys to the Chinese. They are the majority of the engineering students here anyhow.


42 posted on 07/12/2013 8:01:29 AM PDT by JimSEA
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To: SeekAndFind

I eat meat, but I do feel compassion and gratefullness to the animals who died. I saw one of the most depressing videos the other day. A dairy cow had given birth, and they took the calf from her a few hours after birth. They must be separated because the dairy cow’s milk is sold, of course. The poor little calf tried to get back to its mother, and the mother tried to get her calf, even following the van the calf was in until it could no longer. The little calf was then put in a small stall in a barn. It was eye opening to me as to what goes in the dairy industry. While I’m not vegan and eat meat and dairy, I definitely understand people who love animals enough to make that sacrifice.


43 posted on 07/12/2013 8:02:33 AM PDT by Pinkbell
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To: cripplecreek

Your fellow Michigander Jim Harrison describes them as milk and shit machines.

Hell out here in Montana we still write poems and songs in their praise!


44 posted on 07/12/2013 8:02:42 AM PDT by Fightin Whitey
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To: SeekAndFind

Liberals...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t1bHBthJN9w


45 posted on 07/12/2013 8:02:47 AM PDT by Hardraade (http://junipersec.wordpress.com (Obama equals Osama))
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To: SeekAndFind

I was accosted by some PETA butt heads while driving into the Clyde Beatty, Cole Brother circus with my wife and kids a dozen years or so ago.

They were complaining about the way the animals were being treated.

I told them “I hunt down, kill, gut, skin and butcher deer...These circus animals look like they are being treated just fine”.


46 posted on 07/12/2013 8:03:09 AM PDT by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: SeekAndFind

What was the results of this ‘study’. Apparently you can get grants to study anything.


47 posted on 07/12/2013 8:03:14 AM PDT by Lx (Do you like it, do you like it. Scott? I call it Mr. and Mrs. Tennerman chili.)
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To: SeekAndFind

they left out the band castration


48 posted on 07/12/2013 8:04:01 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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49 posted on 07/12/2013 8:04:58 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Who could have guessed that one day pro wrestling would be less fake than mainstream journalism?)
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To: SeekAndFind

I’d keep eating. I like it rare, but not moo-ing.


50 posted on 07/12/2013 8:05:56 AM PDT by Larry Lucido
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