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Home Laptop | July 12, 2013 | Me

Posted on 07/12/2013 8:39:09 AM PDT by publius911

Windows had no updates for a few weeks. Yesterday there were somewhere around 17 that kicked in with automatic update.
My Win 7Pro desktop handled it apparently with no problem; my laptop was something else.

The laptop is running Win7 premium and has always updated with no problem. This time, I left it running overnight and it would turn itself off. The following morning after it booted, it went through the configuring process, I got a cursor, but there was no taskbar. Pretty much nothing can happen without a taskbar, either logging in, starting the browser trouble shooting or anything else. I do a have a cursor, but nowhere to go.

Two questions. Anyone else had a problem with recent Win7 updates?
Anyone experienced before a "no taskbar" condition?
Yes I am logged in.

There is an outside chance (although I did not see it) that my cat walked on the keyboard while the laptop was unattended.

Any help from the gurus or geeks would be appreciated.


TOPICS: Computers/Internet; Weird Stuff
KEYWORDS: computer; microsoft; mswindows; updates; win7; windowsupdate
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To: Not gonna take it anymore

yes, i am a Mac user and am about to buy a PC laptop ... wondered why the need for updates if yer happy with what is working.

Updates: am I just asking for trouble?


21 posted on 07/12/2013 9:30:33 AM PDT by campaignPete R-CT (we're the Beatniks now)
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To: publius911
Try searching Google for a fix.
22 posted on 07/12/2013 9:31:51 AM PDT by Slump Tester (What if I'm pregnant Teddy? Errr-ahh -Calm down Mary Jo, we'll cross that bridge when we come to it)
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To: publius911

When booting up after update, my computer sat for 3-4 minutes at black screen & no task bar, then it came up like normal (and my computer is better and smoother now, which never happens after an update). Maybe the download of one or more updates was corrupted.

I’d say roll back to your last restore point and see what that does for you.


23 posted on 07/12/2013 9:32:54 AM PDT by Excuse_My_Bellicosity (Liberalism is a social disease.)
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To: campaignPete R-CT

Updates are mainly to address security issues and performance glitches that are usually found by users. In my experience they usually make no perceived difference for me.

By the way, Apples update too. Maybe you need to initiate them but Apple definitely issues updates too. Most Windows machines are set to update automatically and notify the user when they are done. You can set them to require user intervention but Windows will chide you to set Updates to Automatic.


24 posted on 07/12/2013 9:50:46 AM PDT by MtBaldy (If Obama is the answer, it must have been a really stupid question)
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To: publius911
The problem is solved. I have no clue why the task bar was relocated, but it was and the "autohide" function was working perfectly until I accidentally nudged the right edge of the screen, thankyouverymuch. After moving it back to the bottom, where I usually keep it, I used the "lock task bar" option, and hope that prevents a repetition.

But this thread is a wealth of information. I am saving it both to my [Windows7 Help] folder and to my [Critters] folder. That never happened before.

Occam's Razor ruled. The simplest explanation was the correct one, but no way to assume that will be the case in the future, so all the clues and advice in this thread will be useful, sooner or later.

Thanks again to all!

25 posted on 07/12/2013 9:58:18 AM PDT by publius911 (Look for the Union label, then buy something else.)
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26 posted on 07/12/2013 9:58:26 AM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (Resist We Much)
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To: RBStealth
*snicker* Ooohh, yes. That illuminating 'PCMaticdotcom' is simply SO applicable to the real world.

As in: "Daddy, the MB is simply too slow, and all my friends have Jags! Let's go buy a new one!"

Not going to try to turn this into a 'Doze-bashing thread, however, although I am sorely tempted, and this is not a personal attack, but that commercial is almost as believable as that one about the unforgettable asian leader whatsisname playing a perfect golf game.

Are there really that many gullible sods that buy into that line? Kind of makes Me think of the North Koreans taking as utter truth that hilarious article that named their Dear Leader as 'the most handsome man ever' (paraphrasing).

27 posted on 07/12/2013 9:58:39 AM PDT by Utilizer
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To: AMiller

FYI....instead of a System Restore you can remove the updates by going to the Control Panel....Add or Remove...Check “Show updates” in the upper right corner. You will see all of the latest updates by program and date. Select the desired update...click “remove” and it’s gone. This method is much quicker than doing a “System Restore”.


28 posted on 07/12/2013 10:24:07 AM PDT by A_Tradition_Continues (formerly known as Politicalwit ...05/28/98 Class of '98)
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To: publius911

"...sure, blame da cat, it's a gud ting I can't talk"

29 posted on 07/12/2013 10:53:50 AM PDT by Doogle (USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated))
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To: RBStealth
you should have had PCMatic.com

I know that was sarcasm, but I hate PCmatic with a passion. It's a fleecing scam aimed at the truly, truly clueless : fix your computer and get rid of viruses and Trojan horses in less than a minute! and the computer runs faster, too!

That commercial would be long gone if there weren't an endless number of gullible clueless victims watching TV.

30 posted on 07/12/2013 11:45:18 AM PDT by publius911 (Look for the Union label, then buy something else.)
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To: campaignPete R-CT
yes, i am a Mac user and am about to buy a PC laptop ... wondered why the need for updates if yer happy with what is working.
Updates: am I just asking for trouble?

I don't see it that way at all. Most updates are useful, even if you have never had need of a routine which triggers a problem, that is being fixed.

Unfortunately, only real experts or very experienced and technically engaged users can distinguished the truly critical issues being fixed from the ones that most of us may never see. Unfortunately, I am not a total neophyte, but certainly not one of those.

31 posted on 07/12/2013 11:50:56 AM PDT by publius911 (Look for the Union label, then buy something else.)
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To: campaignPete R-CT

On my last job the PCs were set for automatic updates and it was awful. On occasion it took hours to figure out what was wrong with the update done in the middle of the night.

I also have a Mac at home and the difference I’ve noticed between PC updates and Mac updates is that Mac updates do not slow down my computer at all.

I still never set my Mac for automatic updates. You can choose which updates you want and need.


32 posted on 07/13/2013 7:27:51 AM PDT by Not gonna take it anymore (If Obama were twice as smart as he is, he would be a wit)
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To: Not gonna take it anymore

I think I will not do any updates on my new laptop-to=be purchase ... I’ll update my MalwareBytes and McAfee.

I type this on Netscape 7.0, Netscape Copyright © 2000-2001
which shows what I think of updates.


33 posted on 07/13/2013 9:47:01 AM PDT by campaignPete R-CT (we're the Beatniks now)
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To: Utilizer

I take it you dont recognize sarcasm.


34 posted on 07/13/2013 12:12:06 PM PDT by RBStealth
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