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WEEKLY GARDEN THREAD VOLUME 28 JULY 12, 2013
Free Republic | July 12, 2013 | greeneyes

Posted on 07/12/2013 1:19:48 PM PDT by greeneyes

The Weekly Gardening Thread is a weekly gathering of folks that love soil, seeds and plants of all kinds. From complete newbies that are looking to start that first potted plant, to gardeners with some acreage, to Master Gardener level and beyond, we would love to hear from you.

This thread is non-political, although you will find that most here are conservative folks. No matter what, you won’t be flamed and the only dumb question is the one that isn’t asked.

It is impossible to hijack the Weekly Gardening Thread ... there is no telling where it will go and that is part of the fun and interest. Jump in and join us!

NOTE: This is a once a week ping list. We do post to the thread during the week. Links to related articles and discussions which might be of interest are welcomed, so feel free to post them at any time.


TOPICS: Gardening
KEYWORDS: agriculture; bugspray; food; gardening; hobby; roothormone; stevia; strawberries; sunflwrseedhuller; willow; zukerecipes; zukes
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Haven't had much time for my favorite website this week. Had to take a trip to Jefferson City for a Board Meeting, and when I got back, the table was loaded with produce that hubby had harvested.

I have been canning pickles and green beans every day since then. I have a bunch of squash and zuchinni waiting for me right now along with a few cucumbers, and I haven't decided exactly what I'll do. Thinking about pickled zukes or else drying them.

The main thing that we like is zuke bread, so I would think that drying would work just fine. I could even just package all the stuff together for the bread and then just add the egg and liquids for a quick treat.

I like the summer squash in a stir fry, and that's it - so I was reading on alternatives to canning. The old timey methods book said to take an oily rag and wipe them down with it and set on a newspaper - so that's something I could try I guess.

We have had really great weather so far, after a too rainy and cold spring. Mostly sunny and in the high 70's with occasional rain so that we haven't had to use water from the rain barrels much. Today is a pleasant 76 degrees.

The one surviving sunflower is still growing, and has been joined by another stem that is putting out new leaves, as well as some sprouts from the new seeds that I planted to replace the ones that died.

Tomatoes are beginning to put on flowers. Corn has tassels, and potatoes are still blooming and growing like crazy.

Hope all your gardens are doing well. Have a great weekend. God Bless.

1 posted on 07/12/2013 1:19:48 PM PDT by greeneyes
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To: greeneyes; Diana in Wisconsin; gardengirl; girlangler; SunkenCiv; HungarianGypsy; Gabz; ...

Pinging the list.


2 posted on 07/12/2013 1:24:21 PM PDT by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: greeneyes

Rain, sunshine, repeat! I’ll probably be harvesting garlic next week. I planted 160 bulbs. This will be enough for us, our folks, and the Spanish nuns down the road. Hey, I have to keep those ladies happy! I’ll keep plent to plant this fall as well.


3 posted on 07/12/2013 1:27:47 PM PDT by goodwithagun (My gun has killed fewer people than Ted Kennedy's car.)
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To: greeneyes

I will be picking my first tomato here in Red Hampshire shortly...a nice, softball-sized Ludmilla’s Pink Heart.


4 posted on 07/12/2013 1:28:38 PM PDT by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: greeneyes
I like the summer squash in a stir fry, and that's it - so I was reading on alternatives to canning. The old timey methods book said to take an oily rag and wipe them down with it and set on a newspaper - so that's something I could try I guess.

What does that process do? Wipe with oil, put on newspaper, then what?

5 posted on 07/12/2013 1:28:47 PM PDT by Marcella ((Prepping can save your life today. I am a Christian, not a Muslim.))
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To: goodwithagun

Sounds great! I like stuff that I can plant in the fall, and harvest by around May or June of the next year, and garlic is one of those.


6 posted on 07/12/2013 1:31:08 PM PDT by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: greeneyes

Hello all! My garden is hopelessly overgrown due to neglect during my recovery. I’m just waiting for frost to kill all the weeds so that I can clear the beds.


7 posted on 07/12/2013 1:31:18 PM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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To: greeneyes

Jefferson City, MO. I had ancestors who hailed from there. Prolly still have distant kin from around there.


8 posted on 07/12/2013 1:32:43 PM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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To: greeneyes

I used to grate the zucchini and put it in 1 or 3 cup quantities in freezer bags and store them in the freezer. You could do the same thing with the dry ingredients and then just throw it altogether with eggs and oil(?) and bake whenever you want.


9 posted on 07/12/2013 1:37:05 PM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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To: greeneyes

any thoughts as to why the leaves of one of my rose bushes are turning yellow?

thanks,

Jane Reinheimer


10 posted on 07/12/2013 1:41:42 PM PDT by quintr
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To: who knows what evil?

What bliss-that first tomato. We are still waiting here. Hubby has some green ones.


11 posted on 07/12/2013 1:52:28 PM PDT by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: Marcella

Use them and watch them. Oil prevents the RAPID spread of mold. If mold appears, you can wipe them again with oily rag, although I would probably wipe off the mold and then just use the squash.

It just helps to prolong the amount of time you can keep them on hand.


12 posted on 07/12/2013 1:56:48 PM PDT by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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Here's what I have done in the garden, not: Watched the Zimmerman trial every day, all day. Plus, car battery totally died, car company came to get it yesterday morning and put in new battery and replaced some switch under the brake that was a call back for certain models that year. They sent a car for me late yesterday so car is back in front.

We are now on verdict watch with the trial so tomorrow I'm planting sprouted Sunflowers in grow bags and Tomatoes in big tomato containers. I have netting to drape over both types of planting and stand up wood stakes to keep the net off and away from the plants so the squirrels and birds can't reach through the net to get the plants. That had better work for I am going to grow those plants if it causes every squirrel to die.

OH, YES, I ordered the stuff to put around to repel squirrels. That isn't here yet, expect it any day. They are supposed to hate this stuff. In order for a squirrel to get in, squirrel jumps onto the top of the back wall which has a 2x4 on the top and that is where the jump off point is into the garden. I'm putting this stuff all over on that 2x4 and hope it makes them throw up and have to go to squirrel hospital where they sink into a death coma.

ABOUT THAT TRIAL: The jury is deliberating so please don't go into your town after that verdict comes down until you know your area is safe. The New Black Panthers have put out the word not to burn their own area of town but go where white people live and burn theirs. There is also internet talk between blacks to individually attack a white person and kill that person because Trayvon is dead.

So, don't think you are safe just because there isn't a riot. In the past several days, individual white people have been killed by individual black people - one was a white baby in a stroller. If you live in town, have a loaded weapon quickly available. If you live more in the country but black people live in the area, have a loaded weapon quickly available. BE SAFE, BE AWARE OF YOUR SURROUNDINGS AND KNOW IF BLACK PEOPLE ARE ANYWHERE AROUND YOU UNLESS YOU KNOW THOSE PEOPLE. I'm using the garden thread to warn you about this, but you need to know it.

13 posted on 07/12/2013 1:57:03 PM PDT by Marcella ((Prepping can save your life today. I am a Christian, not a Muslim.))
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To: afraidfortherepublic

I have a lot of native Missourians from all over the state. Far enough back we have some Irish, German, and people who migrated from Kentucky State.


14 posted on 07/12/2013 1:59:16 PM PDT by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: who knows what evil?
I will be picking my first tomato here in Red Hampshire shortly

The geographical differences across this nation are amazing....here in the Kalifornia low desert, we plant our tomatoes by mid-September (if we can find the 'sets'...), and the harvest is finito just in time for all the neighbors to make their salsa for Super Bowl Sunday!

15 posted on 07/12/2013 2:01:02 PM PDT by ErnBatavia (Piffle....)
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To: Marcella
OH, YES, I ordered the stuff to put around to repel squirrels.

Hopefully, it's that Eraze AG pellet product. We're still squirrel-free since the first week of April.

16 posted on 07/12/2013 2:03:42 PM PDT by ErnBatavia (Piffle....)
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To: afraidfortherepublic

Our working freezers are already full. We did freeze some in 2010, but lost them due to freezer malfunction, hence the search for something else to do with them.

We have gradually been winding down our electricity useage. So far we have reduced our bill by 10-30% per year for the last 3 years.

Since drying takes up less space and electricity, It’s on par with home canning these days.


17 posted on 07/12/2013 2:03:44 PM PDT by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: greeneyes; All

Had a note from Johnny. Today, he’s with family in another house to see family he hasn’t seen in a while and said he didn’t know if he could post to gardening thread, would depend on if he could find a computer. Here’s hoping he can find one.


18 posted on 07/12/2013 2:05:02 PM PDT by Marcella ((Prepping can save your life today. I am a Christian, not a Muslim.))
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To: quintr

Plants with yellow leaves can have many causes. Too little nitrogin is one. Aphids/bugs is another. Missing trace minerals is another.

If you haven’t given them any rose food/fertilizer in a while, you might start with trying that, and inspect them carefully for bugs.


19 posted on 07/12/2013 2:06:11 PM PDT by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: greeneyes

We got a nice 3/4” rain shower in Central Missouri earlier this week. Everything in my garden is doing well. Ate the first ripe tomato yesterday. Cucumbers are now making faster than we can eat them which means pickle-making time is just around the corner. First planting sweet corn is pollinating so it won’t be long for that either. I still have three row of taters to dig. Might get one of those done this weekend.

Mrs. Augie runs the zukes through her food processor and puts the moosh into ziplock bags and freezes it. Works great for making bread. Can also be seasoned and fried, used in soups etc.


20 posted on 07/12/2013 2:08:51 PM PDT by Augie
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To: Marcella

I am looking forward to your report on the squirrell repellant.LOL.


21 posted on 07/12/2013 2:10:20 PM PDT by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: Marcella
Actually, I'm using one of my laptops and I'm into the daughter's internet so I'm here in a very urban part of town. Armed, of course. ;)

I will be where there is no internet tomorrow, until I get back home.

/johnny

22 posted on 07/12/2013 2:11:34 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: Marcella

Thanks for the info. I hope he can find a computer too-just not the same without him.


23 posted on 07/12/2013 2:12:22 PM PDT by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: Marcella

Thanks, Marcella, and good luck with the squirrels.


24 posted on 07/12/2013 2:13:08 PM PDT by Silentgypsy (You don't like the way I drive? Stay off the sidewalk.)
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To: ErnBatavia

It’s “Plantskydd Rabbits & Small Critters Organic Repellant”. I’ll copy the name of what you have just in case this isn’t good enough,


25 posted on 07/12/2013 2:13:40 PM PDT by Marcella ((Prepping can save your life today. I am a Christian, not a Muslim.))
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To: greeneyes

Hi everyone, I know I have promised pictures, it’s been crazy busy this summer and I have managed to keep up with the garden just barely. Brought hubby home from the hospital Wednesday evening after a total knee replacement Monday. Could someone please send me some duct tape?? I need to tape him to a chair. He is driving me crazy already. He sometimes listens to what the doctors and nurses are saying and sometimes doesn’t. My first crop of romaone is all gone, waiting on the second crop. Just started picking zucchini, banana peppers, jalapenos, green onions, radishes done. I never get too many radishes, they bolt on me. Sad because I love fresh radishes. Tomatoes are going great and I have 6 varieties of russian/ukraine tomatoes I am pretty excited about. Had a question for you all on tomatillos. My first time growing and I only have one plant, it’s huge already and has had loads of flowers but no fruit develops?? Any ideas?? Thanks and hope to haev some pictures soon. I am in dinosaur mode here, camera, computer, photobucket,FR.


26 posted on 07/12/2013 2:14:46 PM PDT by MomwithHope (Buy and read The Liberty Amendments by Mark Levin!)
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To: ErnBatavia

Do you have to put Eraze AG down again after a rain?


27 posted on 07/12/2013 2:15:22 PM PDT by Marcella ((Prepping can save your life today. I am a Christian, not a Muslim.))
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To: Augie

We’ve been harvesting cukes for quite a while now. This is our first good crop of cukes since 2010. We had no luck in 2011 just grew a little, wilted and died, and 2012 was the drought and heat. Since I still have relish and bread and butter pickles from 2010, I am just making dill pickles this year.

I am doing spears, whole pickles, and slices for burgers. These can be made into sweet pickles by adding sugar to the jar, or even make relish after the fact using a food processor, if I should need to before next year.


28 posted on 07/12/2013 2:20:10 PM PDT by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: greeneyes; Marcella
I'm having to water my garden, since we've been without rain for over a week now. I'm collecting tomatoes every day, and I added MORE tobacco to the stuff already hanging in my kitchen. My squash are not making fruit anymore, but they are still flowering. Peppers are an everyday harvest now.

I'll have cantaloupe on the table before long. Sunflowers are almost ready to harvest. I actually harvested a head early because the stalk broke.

So... this morning I checked the junk pile and built a gadget to shell sunflower seeds. I took pictures of it, but they are on the compter at the house, so I'll post those tomorrow. It is MUCH MUCH faster than shelling them by hand. And lots more exciting. ;)

Task: Given a junked leafblower, a coffee maker with no pot, an old stainless steel pan, and a variac autotransformer from the 1960s, build a slam type sheller that will work with sunflower seeds, peanuts and dried beans.

I love those kinds of tasks. ;)

/johnny

29 posted on 07/12/2013 2:21:29 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: JRandomFreeper

LOL. Glad you could join us.


30 posted on 07/12/2013 2:22:03 PM PDT by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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Visited my friends little 5 acre farm out in the north Texas
rural country. She’s a widow and I’m so impressed of her skills raising hens and plants. Anyway she sent me away with some goodies including some dried sprigs from a cinnamon basil plant. Holy smokes what flavor it adds to food like fried eggs and others when sauteed. I’m crumbling the seed pods so i can plant some myself here on my plot in Fall or next year. She’s got all kinds of basil varieties growing out there—interesting and educational too.


31 posted on 07/12/2013 2:22:55 PM PDT by tflabo (Truth or Tyranny)
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To: greeneyes

Finally a break in the rain for a few days i need to till and weed my Veggies gotta wait for the swamp to receed


32 posted on 07/12/2013 2:23:41 PM PDT by ATOMIC_PUNK (I'm not afraid to say what i mean nor should you be afraid of what you know to be true !)
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To: JRandomFreeper
I'm here in a very urban part of town.

"urban" - be careful due to that verdict might come down. Maybe you will be where there is a TV tomorrow. It will be all over TV when it happens. A group of people have already gathered on the grass across from that courthouse. Don't know if they plan to spend the night on the grass. New Black Panthers sending bus loads of people there.

33 posted on 07/12/2013 2:25:29 PM PDT by Marcella ((Prepping can save your life today. I am a Christian, not a Muslim.))
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I’ve been whining about no zucchini, yellow squash, and cucumbers for the last couple of threads. Well, I have since harvested two nice cukes with a couple more small ones on the vine. The squash is a different story. Two days ago, I pulled up the yellow(ing) plants - they were pathetic. I did not get a single yellow squash although the plant bloomed. I had 3 baby zucchini, two rotted very small and the 3rd got maybe 4 inches long and started turning yellow. The squash bugs were horrible and despite daily attention, they continued to ‘appear’. My SIL next door was having the same issues. Over the last two days, I’ve done a little asking around - my aunt got no (as in “zero”) squash this year and my brother’s business partner, who usually has a nice garden, has gotten no squash, few cukes and his tomatoes aren’t doing well. It looks like in our area, it’s a poor garden year.

While looking up squash issues, I came across something that is supposed to be squash bug resistant and grows like a son-of-a-gun & will take over your garden, if you let it. It is sort of like zucchini but with a nuttier taste, more like a winter squash (which I love). This interesting plant is a zuchetta tromboncino rampicante. Does anyone have any experience with this? I found a gardening blog post with pictures and info: http://www.gardenbetty.com/2011/10/zucchino-rampicante/ I’ve never seen this stuff before, but if I can find it, I’m planting it next year. My SIL said she’s not planting squash anymore, but I want to at least give this a try before I give up.


34 posted on 07/12/2013 2:29:46 PM PDT by MissMagnolia (You see, truth always resides wherever brave men still have ammunition. I pick truth. (John Ransom))
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To: MomwithHope

I have no experience with tomatillos. A couple of guesses come to mind.

Flowering fruits/veggies need pollination, and maybe they aren’t getting it-do you have plenty of bees in the morning?

Secondly they need nutrients 15 30 15 and trace elements.
Once they are ready to and start to flower, that extra Phosphorus is needed, the balanced 15 15 15 doesn’t do as well for these as it does for leafy veggies.


35 posted on 07/12/2013 2:30:37 PM PDT by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: greeneyes

Triple digit heat and no relief for the next few days. Lake is dropping fast and will be 60’ low by mid summer.


36 posted on 07/12/2013 2:31:09 PM PDT by Arrowhead1952 (The Second Amendment is NOT about the right to hunt. It IS a right to shoot tyrants.)
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To: greeneyes

Glad your garden is doing well. What variety of corn do you have?

Still no rain here. We had several slow showers in recent weeks, but not even enough to measure in the rain gauge. They only made a crust on the sand in the yard.

We are still harvesting tomatos, normally they are done before now. Our tomato stakes are 6 1/2 feet tall and we have plants 2 feet above them and flowering. Cantaloupes are finally growing and some flowers. We got a big total of 5 peppers from 4 plants, not worth the garden space for us. Next year it will be an all tomato garden. We can’t get enough tomatos.


37 posted on 07/12/2013 2:32:39 PM PDT by rightly_dividing (Tagline: It's gone again.)
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To: MomwithHope
Brought hubby home from the hospital Wednesday evening after a total knee replacement Monday

A lady friend of mine just had that about two weeks ago. She goes to therapy three times a week now. Don't know how long that lasts. She had to do it, the knee had her using a walker and it wasn't going to get better. She has three or four garden areas at her place, and I don't know if she is allowed to walk out there yet. Need to find out. Hope your hubby gets going walking well soon. Before that surgery was available, people just had to quit walking at some point. I think about my eyes, too. Had cataracts on both eyes removed last year. Now, just use glasses for reading - see better than I have in all my life. Before that surgery was available, I would have just gone blind. How wonderful we have surgeries available to put us back together.

38 posted on 07/12/2013 2:36:30 PM PDT by Marcella ((Prepping can save your life today. I am a Christian, not a Muslim.))
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To: JRandomFreeper

Looking forward to seeing the picture of your gizmo.


39 posted on 07/12/2013 2:46:22 PM PDT by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: tflabo

Does it truly taste like cinnamon?


40 posted on 07/12/2013 2:47:29 PM PDT by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: greeneyes

Yes some of my people came to MO from KY and some came to MO from VA. One branch emigrated to OR and then to CA, while the other branch moved to NV and then CA.

I guess MO was the great “jumping off” place.


41 posted on 07/12/2013 2:51:53 PM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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To: greeneyes

Yes some of my people came to MO from KY and some came to MO from VA. One branch emigrated to OR and then to CA, while the other branch moved to NV and then CA.

I guess MO was the great “jumping off” place.


42 posted on 07/12/2013 2:51:53 PM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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To: greeneyes
I enjoy projects like that. It uses the leafblower parts to blow the seeds onto an angled plate that breaks off the hulls, which fly out because they are light, while the meats fall to the bottom.

Adjusted, it works well. When I first tried it, I was just making sunflower puree on the strike plate. Maybe it was hitting a little hard. ;)

/johnny

43 posted on 07/12/2013 2:53:31 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: MissMagnolia
This interesting plant is a zuchetta tromboncino rampicante.

If this can be found, I'll find it and tell you where. If it's resistant to critters, it's worth a try. I could also grow it in a tomato tub that has a circular lattice kind of thing in it. That would be perfect for this plant. Let me see if I can find it - I went to that link and read about it.

44 posted on 07/12/2013 2:53:39 PM PDT by Marcella ((Prepping can save your life today. I am a Christian, not a Muslim.))
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To: Marcella
Unfortunately, it never rains here in our desert....but I think I read that it's still good to go for a period after a short shower.

Zinc phosphide is the active ingredient.

45 posted on 07/12/2013 2:56:19 PM PDT by ErnBatavia (Piffle....)
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To: Marcella

It’s a real climber .... so a lattice would work great! Also, it curls up on the ground, but supposedly, if you grow it vertically, the squash is straight! Thanks for the research. :-)


46 posted on 07/12/2013 2:56:41 PM PDT by MissMagnolia (You see, truth always resides wherever brave men still have ammunition. I pick truth. (John Ransom))
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To: MomwithHope

I’m amazed that your hubby is feeling good enough to give you trouble so soon after a total knee replacement! I had my knee done in April, and I’m milking it for all it’s worth. To tell you the truth, I don’t remember anything about the first 5 days. Then I went to rehab, and all I remember is pain. Then home and outpatient rehab. More pain.

It’s been 3 months and I am pretty much pain pill free and pain free, as well. But, I’m not back to normal yet and don’t expect to be until I hit the 6 month mark. Some people say I shouldn’t feel entirely normal for a year.


47 posted on 07/12/2013 2:57:54 PM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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To: MissMagnolia

You can get the squash here and I’ll post other places:

http://www.territorialseed.com/product/1100/400


48 posted on 07/12/2013 2:58:37 PM PDT by Marcella ((Prepping can save your life today. I am a Christian, not a Muslim.))
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To: Marcella
How wonderful we have surgeries available to put us back together.

Let's hope that Obama lets us keep those aids.

49 posted on 07/12/2013 2:59:24 PM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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To: MissMagnolia

Can get the squash here:

http://www.southernexposure.com/tromboncino-squash-summer-3-g-p-163.html


50 posted on 07/12/2013 3:03:48 PM PDT by Marcella ((Prepping can save your life today. I am a Christian, not a Muslim.))
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