Posted on 07/13/2013 11:17:17 AM PDT by Renfield
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If I had known that I’m Hispanic, then I could have gotten free money to go to a more prestigious college.
About 70% of all Europeans can trace their DNA ,via haplogroups R1b and 'H', to the Iberian Ice Age Refuge. (present day Spain/Portugal)
In the 1600s many Huguenots (French Protestants) landed on Irish shores fleeing from France..
In 1710 when Queen Anne sent those 3,000 Palatine Germans to Albany, NY to chop down pine trees and make pitch and tar to seal her wooden war ships, she also sent about 3,000 more to Ireland...
Some of them stayed and some of them moved on to Canada a couple of generations later...after 1760 when the English took over from the French...
Plus the Scots who traveled back and forth to Ireland every few generations or so...My early to mid 1800s Irish were named Campbell, Irvine, Hunter :)
Lots of bloodlines to choose from...
If youre Irish you could be have French, German, Scot, English ancestors as well as a Black Irish/Spaniard...
Oh and the Vikings...
I happened upon a site that scrolls through pictures of native Basques. They bear a striking resemblance to the faces one can see walking down a street in Cork or Limerick. Not at all like the Moorish and Mediterranean look one associates with "Spaniard". They certainly do not believe themselves to be Spanish and have fought just as viciously at times for their independence as the Irish have from Britain.
The Norsemen/Vikings were all over what now is Ireland, Scotland, and England, not to mention the lands of the Rus, the continually warring tribes of which they pacified and unified, after a fashion, creating Russia. The Normans invaded northern region of what now is France, and settled there in numbers such that Charlemagne granted them what we know as Normandy. Floating down rivers from the north, they were able to trade with the Arabs.
Another interesting read on the same topic.
According to this guy, my "English" blood is something like 70% Celtic. The Anglo-Saxon, Viking, and Norman contributions to the English gene pool are much smaller than commonly believed.
The people of Galicia in Spain have a Celtic background.
Listen to Llan de Cubel sometime. A Celtic folk band from Asturias, in northern Spain. Perfectly good Irish “diddley music” but in Spanish.
Ignoratio Elenchi.
White Hispanics.
Bloody Vikings!
Looks like we have a class action lawsuit. And we will have a lock on the potato burrito market.
The original Celts (the keltoi barbarians as the Greeks called them of that time, in 6th Century BC 800-450BC) were in the central core area of Europe, in Austria, and id’d by the Hallstatt culture. The Celts spread across that Europe,to the British Isles ( France and the low country (hence, the Gauls which Rome had to deal with forever), Bohemia, Poland and much of Central Europe, to the Spanish Peninsula. The Gallic invasion led all the way to the Balkans and as far east as central Turkey, where they were called Gallo-Graeci (the Gauls among the Greeks). Light skinned, blond or red haired Gauls in Turkey (might still see some there amongst the turks)
The island Celts divided into the Gaels (Irish, Scottish and Manx),the Brythonic Celts (Welsh, Cornish, and Bretons), as they are today.
This article is a genetic tracing, and leaves out a lot. Surely elements of “spanish” celts migrated to Ireland, and have the haplotype mentioned. But as another poster here mentioned, the dark haired, dark eyed olive complexion Irish so-called “Black” Irish, Spaniards who descended from the Moorish invasion of Spain , and were then survivors from the Spanish Armada that sank and who washed ashore, were taken in if not killed and assimilated into Irish population.
Most would not think of Poland and Bohemia as being Celtic descent, but they are. Gallia est omnis divisa in partes tres. So, the French are Celts, too— yow!
Elgin is an ancient walled city in Scotland and also an earldom. In the Gaelic "Elgin" means "little Ireland." The greatest proof that there was an influx from Ireland into what is now Elgin is that about 90% of the better single malt scotch is made in Elgin. It has the most stops along the Whiskey trail. It seems that the Irish brougt with them the skill of making usquebaugh.
The Earl of Elgin, however, is now a Bruce. Seems a Scots King had a hired sword, a Norman by the name of Robert le Brus. The king, no dummy, it seems, arranged for his hired sword to marry one of the beautiful daughters of the Elgin chief, who had daughters not sons. One of the male offspring became well known as Robert the Bruce.
For a real treat also listen to “Red Wine”, an excellent Italian bluegrass band. Mandolinist is a thoracic surgeon and they sing phonetic english, but also have songs in Italian. A trip.
And the Norsemen/Vikings in Normandy, known as the Normans, are the ones that conquered England and Ireland in 1066.
Too true, but the language can infect. The affectation of clearly non-genetic speakers. See: ebonics.
Turn down the sound, look at the musicians and the setting, and say it’s not Ireland or Scotland. Turn up the music and enjoy beautiful Celtic tune sung in Spanish.
Actually, I’m not sure what is the point of the original blog post.
I thought it was well-known that Irish are related to Basques.
And the Basques aren’t as genetically distinct as was historically assumed, but they certainly are culturally distinct, as are the Irish-Scots. Probably isolation on the peripheries of the continent.
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