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First Systems Based on AMD FX 9000-Series Processors Now Available.
Xbitlabs ^ | 07/16/2013 07:51 PM | by Anton Shilov

Posted on 07/17/2013 8:57:36 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach

Over Ten Enthusiast PC Builders Unleash Systems Based on AMD FX-9000 Microprocessors

Advanced Micro Devices on Tuesday said that over ten system builders in the U.S. and Canada have begun to offer high-end personal computers based on AMD FX-9000 central processing units. The new systems will offer performance that so far has been unachievable by AMD FX-based systems, but will come at massive prices.

“At E3, AMD was proud to announce the world’s first commercially available 5.0 GHz CPU and today we’re happy to make the AMD FX-9000 series available exclusively through system integrators. The eight-core FX-9590, based on “Piledriver” architecture provides customers up to 5.0GHz of unlocked performance. Additionally, the FX-9000 series features AMD Turbo-Core 3.0 providing enthusiasts maximum computing by optimizing performance across CPU cores,” a statement by AMD reads.

At present, eleven high-end PC makers offer systems based on AMD FX-9370 and AMD FX-9590 central processing units, including Canada Computers, CyberPower, iBuyPower, Digital Storm, Extreme PC, Maingear, Memory Express, NCIX, Origin PC, Puget Systems and Velocity Micro.

Although the recently announced AMD FX-9000 series microprocessors are only 17% - 20% faster than their predecessors, they cost considerably more than existing FX-8300 family central processing units. PCSuperStore.com is currently taking orders on AMD FX-9370 and AMD FX-9590 microprocessors at $576 and $920, respectively. The regular eight-core AMD FX-series microprocessors cost from $150 to $195, hence, price-premium for 17% - 20% higher performance is more than significant. 

There are two extreme FX microprocessor models available: FX-9370 clocked at 4.40GHz with 4.70GHz maximum Turbo Core frequency as well as FX-9590 clocked at 4.70GHz with 5.00GHz maximum Turbo Core frequency. The new FX chips have eight Piledriver cores and come in AM3+ form-factor. The new processors have whopping 220W thermal design power. Given the fact that there are currently few mainboards that officially support chips with such high power consumption, the new chips are not drop-in compatible with existing infrastructure.

The rumours about code-named Centurion chips with ultra-high clock-speeds have been floating around for some time now. Originally, it was expected that limited edition FX chips will conquer 5.0GHz clock-speed with all of its eight cores, and will therefore will be competitive against Intel’s Core i7 high-end desktop (HEDT) products in LGA2011 packaging. Moreover, Centurion was supposed to reach the frequency with air cooling and remain stable inside desktop PCs.

In reality, AMD managed to boost default clock-speed of Vishera eight-core processors to 4.70GHz, or by 17.5% compared to the FX-8350, the top-of-the-range chip available for end-users today. Moreover, the chips will be available to system makers only, which suggests that they need more sophisticated cooling systems than typically utilized by end-users.

AMD’s current top-of-the-range eight-core FX-8350 microprocessor is clocked at 4.0GHz and in terms of performance is typically behind Intel Core i7-3770K and Core i7-4770K (4 cores with HT, LGA1155) as well as Core i7-3970X (6 cores with HT, LGA2011). While in video games its performance can easily be improved by overclocking, in applications where performance difference equals or exceeds 50%, a 17.5% clock-speed boost will hardly help much.

Several years ago AMD already offered so-called TWKR chips, which were available in quantity of less than 100 units worldwide, but which attracted loads of attention to Phenom II processors in mid-2009. 


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Computers/Internet
KEYWORDS: hitech

1 posted on 07/17/2013 8:57:36 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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To: ShadowAce

fyi


2 posted on 07/17/2013 8:58:09 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Ok, so my AMD FX-8350 is running at 5.2GHz with water cooling. It's stable at 33 degrees celsius and runs all day.

Considering I built it only a few short months ago, I'm not going to be upgrading anytime soon. Had I known Linux and AMD still had issues working together, I'd have stuck with Intel. As is, I went with AMD purely based on the "bang for the buck." Not sorry I did, but I'm generally speaking not happy with the lack of AMD support in the Linux community.

My next box is going to have an Intel Haswell processor. I'll pay the Intel upcharge to get the Linux compatability.

3 posted on 07/17/2013 9:07:51 PM PDT by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: usconservative
Does one save a great deal of money building their own PC? Is it straight forward or does it have Chinese instruction?
4 posted on 07/17/2013 9:12:46 PM PDT by deadrock (I am someone else.)
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To: deadrock
I would not say you save a great deal of money..actually you can end up spending more to customize the machine the way you like.

There are no instructions to speak of ..in Chinese or any other language.

For me its a hobby like customizing cars that I have been at since the days of the Intel 8086 processors, and quite enjoyable. In the old days hand building a stock machine saves alot but not really much anymore

5 posted on 07/17/2013 9:21:55 PM PDT by montanajoe
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To: deadrock
I built my "beast" for just under $750. My build includes:

AMD FX-8350
Cooler Master Water Cooler Kit
32GB DDR3 2400 Memory
128GB SSB Hard Drive
1.5TB SATA3 Hard Drive
MSI 970A-G46 Motherboard
EVGA GT-630 Video w/DVI & VGA, 2GB Memory
650W Power Supply
Cooler Master Tower Case (don't remember model#)
11 120mm Case Cooling Fans


One might think with 11 cooling fans this thing would sound like a jet. Nope, I don't even notice it running. It's sitting just under my desk and it's damn' near silent. I got lucky in that regard since I purchased 11 of the cheapest 120mm case fans I could buy ($3/ea.)

The MSI 970A-G46 comes with USB 3.0, SATA6 (6 drive ports), Gig-E, 8 Channel Audio, several PCI Slots, PCI-E slot and most importantly (for me) a real Serial Port that I actually do use.

The EVGA GT-630 isn't the fastest video card in the world, but I'm not a gamer so all I really wanted was decent quality desktop productivity performance from a video card.

If I tried buying a system like I built, I'd be paying somewhere north of $1,200. I built it myself for a tad under $750. I shopped very hard to get the best prices on the components I used, and I sourced from several different sources to pay the minimum price I could.

Thus far, it's been a screamer. I've had several Virtual machines (Linux, Windows Server, Windows XP) all running at the same time and the FX-8350 seems to handle the load well.

My base OS on it is Windows 8, slimmed all the way down to run in just under 600mb of Memory. All unnecessary services disabled, and unnecessary software components weren't installed when I loaded the OS.

Overall: VERY HAPPY. Thinking about wiping the SSD and installing latest Ubuntu Server first, then VMWare to run the other stuff I need to run. I use my system for my "work from home" computer along with all my amateur radio gear and the home environmental's (heating, cooling, alarm system.) It's been rock solid since I built it. Zero complaints.

6 posted on 07/17/2013 9:29:43 PM PDT by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: montanajoe
I would not say you save a great deal of money..actually you can end up spending more to customize the machine the way you like.

That's true. The best part about building your own computer is that you, the builder get complete control over the quality of components that goes into your build and the cost of those components.

If you know you're not a gamer, you can "cheap out" on the video card for example. I paid $39 for my graphics card (above) with 2gb of memory on it. I knew the GPU wasn't "gaming quality" but then I didn't care. I'm not a gamer, all I wanted was reasonable Desktop graphics performance. So I didn't need to spend $200 - $300 on a high end graphics card.

Other folks who may be hard-core gamers may opt to buy a very high end graphics card or dual-SLI and spend upwards of $600 for just their video card setup.

It all depends on what you want to get out of your system. Yes it's easy to 'spend more' however it's also possible to 'save more' and still get better quality components than buying some piece of crap mass-produced unit using the cheapest parts possible from Dell, Gateway, HP or Lenovo.

7 posted on 07/17/2013 9:35:54 PM PDT by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: montanajoe
There are no instructions to speak of ..in Chinese or any other language.

The motherboard I purchased came with all the instructions necessary to install the CPU, Memory, install it in the case, and cable the front and rear panel to it. That was literally all I needed.

Cases come with very minimal documentation if any, and if you purchase OEM parts such as HDD's, they ship in a foil package in a box. No instructions, no cables, etc..

But here's the thing: Once you've installed your CPU and Memory on the motherboard, installed it in the case and connected the front and rear panel cables, the rest of the build is pretty darn intuitive.

Well, at least for me, I've been doing this for almost 30 years now. For a "newbie" it can be pretty daunting unless you have someone there with you who's done it before and can show you how.

That's how I started "back in the day" .. I had a friend help me with my first build and I've done all the rest of my and my family's builds since.

8 posted on 07/17/2013 9:42:05 PM PDT by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: usconservative

PC builds for sure are a lot more intuitive than they used to be.


9 posted on 07/17/2013 9:47:24 PM PDT by gura (If Allah is so great, why does he need fat sexually confused fanboys to do his dirty work? -iowahawk)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

All so you can get to the windows start tiles just a few seconds faster...

Is there any real reason for all this CPU power?

(my 2.0Ghz dual core does everything I want it to)


10 posted on 07/17/2013 10:18:38 PM PDT by cableguymn (The founding fathers would be shooting by now..)
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To: deadrock

20+ years ago, it was cheaper (by half) to build your own PCs.. Since then, the prices of parts and accessories have gone up since more people started building their own.

Now, it costs almost double to build what I can buy as a name-brand... although, I still prefer building my own, since I know what is in it. The pre-built (brand name) PCs, put crap gear (memory, vid cards, sound cards, etc.; some stoops so low as to use your ram as vid ram, which takes the ram away from the cpu).


11 posted on 07/18/2013 4:08:33 AM PDT by Bikkuri (Molon Labe)
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To: usconservative

Have you tried different distros? I am running AMD with Mint KDE and have had NO issues..


12 posted on 07/18/2013 4:10:07 AM PDT by Bikkuri (Molon Labe)
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To: usconservative
For a "newbie" it can be pretty daunting


Lol... It is a LOT more simple than it used to be :p
Not sure "newbies" would have the patience that it took 15-30 years ago ;)
13 posted on 07/18/2013 4:13:04 AM PDT by Bikkuri (Molon Labe)
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To: usconservative

And last i knew AMD still supported the Boy Scouts in contrast to Intel who ceased funding in support of same gender sexual compatibility.


14 posted on 07/18/2013 4:24:32 AM PDT by daniel1212 (Come to the Lord Jesus as a contrite damned+destitute sinner, trust Him to save you, then live 4 Him)
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To: usconservative; deadrock

Plus the priced of the OS. I am interested in this, and you likely used http://pcpartpicker.com/parts/cpu/

An maybe here to compare CPUs:
http://www.cpubenchmark.net/high_end_cpus.html

And here to determine what PSU you will need: http://www.extreme.outervision.com/index.jsp

I prayerfully found this place before to have the best buys and service contract for complete systems: http://www.computerlx.com/config.aspx?t=&product_ID=656


15 posted on 07/18/2013 4:34:14 AM PDT by daniel1212 (Come to the Lord Jesus as a contrite damned+destitute sinner, trust Him to save you, then live 4 Him)
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To: daniel1212

Im sure Intel funds things I don’t like. Like Obama for example. If I wanted, I could spend hundreds of hours researching every damn company I buy products from, and find something they do that I don’t like. Then what? I’d never be able to buy anything without some pantywaste coming along and saying I offended them because of a product I purchased? F that.


16 posted on 07/18/2013 1:51:20 PM PDT by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: Bikkuri

I’ve tried Ubuntu and Mint. Neither recognizes my on board sound card.

Not 100% certain I’m doing everything correctly, so I’d be happ to read any tips, etc...


17 posted on 07/18/2013 1:55:33 PM PDT by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: usconservative

I had a few quirky bugs with Cinnamon (I think they have those fixed, but Cinnamon wasn’t to my taste)... KDE has been solid since Mint 12....

About the sound card, the only problem I have is disabling the on-board (I have X-Fi, so don’t need the on-board.. even have it disabled in BIOS).. No problems, just shows unnecessary options when I am going through sound options.

Mint KDE 15 is still RC, but it is the smoothest I have seen yet.. It will automatically update to final release as soon as it comes out.

Run M15 KDE on Live-boot and see if it can read it. (I would also suggest a fresh install with /boot, /root, /SWAP, and /home.... all separate partitions, so it will be easier on your system and for you to keeps stuff you need when it comes time to upgrade ;))

Which MoBo are you using? I will see if I can find some info ;)


18 posted on 07/18/2013 4:22:13 PM PDT by Bikkuri (Molon Labe)
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To: Bikkuri
I'm using the MSI 970A-G46 which is supposed to work fine with Ubuntu, RedHat, Mint, etc.. The only problem I have is with the sound card interface... everything else works great.

Thanks for the help!

19 posted on 07/18/2013 5:49:22 PM PDT by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: usconservative

I understand the problem, and we all fund China, but in a clear case as this btwn the only 2 companies worth considering a choice is easier.


20 posted on 07/18/2013 6:09:33 PM PDT by daniel1212 (Come to the Lord Jesus as a contrite damned+destitute sinner, trust Him to save you, then live 4 Him)
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To: usconservative
Hmm.. Came across a few problems people with MSI 970A-G46 were having with Linux.. but nothing directly sound related. (I have never used MSI, I always get Asus.. so I am flying blind)

They either had problems with USB, or some VMWare problem (I don't think that has anything to do with your sound ;)), and a couple of folks that had issues with their HDDs... they had failed to run as AHCI.
There seemed to be an issue with BIOS, one user has to downgrade his to get USB to work.. hmm, Have you flashed to the newest BIOS? If you have, maybe try downgrading like he did.

There was a mentioned MSI Linux (quick-boot) you can install called Winki 2... but is doesn't seem to be a full OS, just mainly for Internet connection o.O ...

Anyway, these 2 links show a little info about your MoBo (from benchmarking site) that the MSI site didn't show (and all "known" friendly Linux Distros, which you mentioned trying Ubuntu and Mint.. there are a few more there.):

MSI 970A-G46 Components

ATI SBx00 Azalia (Intel HDA) (Supposed on-board sound)


I noticed that it has UEFI; not sure that would give a problem with sound, but I know that it is dreaded in the Linux world :p I myself haven't had to worry about that yet.

I suggest seeing if Win8 (if you have it) works.. if it does, then (supposedly) Linux should work.
If it doesn't, or you don't have it, try another couple of Distros. If those fail, maybe take the MoBo for replacement.
(Although I don't prefer MSI, the stats on that MoBo look really nice; I hope you can get it to work!)
21 posted on 07/19/2013 1:03:56 AM PDT by Bikkuri (Molon Labe)
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To: cableguymn
Yes faster is always better....Cutting and pasting stuf ///like FreeRepublic is much , much smoother on my AMD 8120 than on my AMD A6 APU Llano.

Both have 8 Gbyte memory and similar HDD's.

The A6 bogs down if a get a few windows open,...The 8120 can allow me to have a lot more stuff going.

22 posted on 07/19/2013 12:42:14 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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To: All
Newegg has the new chips available.
23 posted on 07/19/2013 12:44:52 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

I have about 80 tabs visible on FF, and 9 documents open, plus Thunderbird and a couple Bible programs and other things running, and things work well until i get down to about 1300mb of free ram. This is a 2005 Sony PC with 64 bit dual core cpus running W/8 64 bit, but the mobo will not use more than 3.37 of my 4gb or ram.


24 posted on 07/19/2013 1:48:22 PM PDT by daniel1212 (Come to the Lord Jesus as a contrite damned+destitute sinner, trust Him to save you, then live 4 Him)
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