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Poop Fiction In Our Public Plaza?
http://www.eugeneweekly.com ^ | July 18, 2013 | By Camilla Mortensen

Posted on 07/18/2013 7:08:41 PM PDT by Maelstorm

Two cases in Eugene Municipal Court this week revolved around protest, poop and constitutional free speech rights. Judge Karen Stenard heard testimony in a motion-to-dismiss hearing July 15 about two protests in the Wayne Morse Free Speech Plaza that involved the arrests of 21 people in one protest and activist Alley Valkyrie in another. Both were related to the group SLEEPS, which set up tents in the plaza to call attention to the plight of the homeless. The cases were heard on the same day as they subpoenaed the same witnesses.

Attorney Lauren Regan in her motion to dismiss the trespassing charges writes that closing the plaza and forcing the protesters to leave violates the U.S. Constitution’s First Amendment as well as Article I of the Oregon Constitution.

Lane County Administrator Liane Richardson ordered the free speech plaza to be closed and controversially called for “disinfection” of the plaza. At the hearing, Valkyrie says, Richardson testified that she smelled human feces in planter boxes in the plaza within 24 hours of the closure order and had several coversations about it with the sheriff’s sergeant in charge of the clean up. But Valkyrie says the sheriff’s sergeant testified that he didn’t actually find any feces and that he smelled the feces after the barricades went up, which Valkyrie says would be two days later.

Valkyrie, who calls the feces testimony “poop fiction,” says that either way, there were no feces to be smelled. Protesters used nearby city bathrooms and had peacekeepers and a clean-up crew. “This is protocol at every protest,” she says. “You leave the place better than you found it.”

She also says she takes issue with the way that county prosecutor Daniel Barcovic “tried to invoke George Zimmerman” in his questions about if the peacekeepers were trained or carried weapons.

The poop issue is key because a public health hazard could be seen as a reasonable legal basis for closing the plaza. Valkyrie and the SLEEPS protesters maintain that free speech has no curfew. The case resumes July 18 but a ruling is not expected until later.


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KEYWORDS: liberals; napl; poop; protest; sourcetitlenoturl
What goes on inside the mind of liberals?


1 posted on 07/18/2013 7:08:41 PM PDT by Maelstorm
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To: Maelstorm

liberals have minds?


2 posted on 07/18/2013 7:10:32 PM PDT by left that other site (You Shall Know the Truth, and the Truth Shall Set You Free...John 8:32)
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To: Maelstorm
What goes on inside the mind of liberals?

Apparently final stage digestion and feces production.
3 posted on 07/18/2013 7:11:52 PM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: left that other site

Good Point.


4 posted on 07/18/2013 7:12:19 PM PDT by Maelstorm (If all are treated as suspects it will not long before we all are treated as prisoners.)
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To: Maelstorm

:-)


5 posted on 07/18/2013 7:13:15 PM PDT by left that other site (You Shall Know the Truth, and the Truth Shall Set You Free...John 8:32)
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To: Maelstorm

Poop is “speech”?

How about lead?


6 posted on 07/18/2013 7:13:55 PM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both.)
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To: Maelstorm

Here’s what SLEEPS is.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HUmyujidL7Q


7 posted on 07/18/2013 7:15:01 PM PDT by Maelstorm (If all are treated as suspects it will not long before we all are treated as prisoners.)
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To: Maelstorm

A new pre-school book in my wife’s school: “Everybody Poops.”


8 posted on 07/18/2013 7:18:21 PM PDT by Huskrrrr
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To: Maelstorm

Garbage in.....


9 posted on 07/18/2013 7:18:54 PM PDT by Huskrrrr
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To: Maelstorm

And some of you got mad at me for writing about snot.


10 posted on 07/18/2013 7:19:34 PM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: Maelstorm

Valkyrie...”You leave the place better than you found it.”
Right...sure. Commies and leftists trash everything and leave it for others to pick up. Look at Occupy XYZ, Seattle WTO, you name it. What fevered dreams she has.


11 posted on 07/18/2013 7:19:56 PM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: cripplecreek

Yeah compost on the brain.


12 posted on 07/18/2013 7:20:14 PM PDT by Maelstorm (If all are treated as suspects it will not be long before we all are treated as prisoners.)
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To: Maelstorm

“’Alley Valkyrie.’ Now there’s a made-up handle if I ever heard one.”
Signed,
Rod Manly


13 posted on 07/18/2013 7:20:46 PM PDT by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: All armed conservatives.)
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To: blueunicorn6

lol!


14 posted on 07/18/2013 7:20:51 PM PDT by Maelstorm (If all are treated as suspects it will not be long before we all are treated as prisoners.)
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To: tumblindice

Yeah. What gets me is these liberals aren’t inviting this homeless folks into their homes. Oh no they are fighting for them to sleep outside in shabby tents and cardboard boxes. They aren’t trying to get them into safe homeless shelters they instead are using these poor people as pawns to raise their profiles as activists.


15 posted on 07/18/2013 7:22:50 PM PDT by Maelstorm (If all are treated as suspects it will not be long before we all are treated as prisoners.)
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To: Maelstorm

Community organizers, FRiend: The copraphiliac ministers of the left’s religion of dung.


16 posted on 07/18/2013 7:26:50 PM PDT by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: All armed conservatives.)
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To: Maelstorm; MeekOneGOP; Conspiracy Guy; DocRock; King Prout; Darksheare; OSHA; martin_fierro; ...
Sounds like a crock of s*** to me.


17 posted on 07/18/2013 7:31:43 PM PDT by Slings and Arrows (You can't have IngSoc without an Emmanuel Goldstein.)
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To: Maelstorm

Poop happens. Speech happens. Ergo...


18 posted on 07/18/2013 7:32:20 PM PDT by bigbob
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

Bingo. I had to LOL at her ridiculous declaration. Better, my butt.


19 posted on 07/18/2013 7:32:30 PM PDT by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Technological progress cannot be legislated.)
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To: Maelstorm

Inside every liberal is a dung slinging monkey.


20 posted on 07/18/2013 7:33:29 PM PDT by lormand (Inside every liberal is a dung slinging monkey.)
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To: Maelstorm

These people are demented.


21 posted on 07/18/2013 7:34:21 PM PDT by stilloftyhenight (Proud bitter clinging wacko bird chirper.)
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To: Maelstorm

Proof that liberals DO talk out of their a$$es.


22 posted on 07/18/2013 7:36:57 PM PDT by beelzepug (if any alphabets are watchin', I'll be coming home right after the meetin')
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To: Maelstorm
“This is protocol at every protest,” she says. “You leave the place better than you found it.”

Alley Valkyrie (why yes, I'm sure that's her real name) must be having a transcendental experience where she's actually part of Tea Party rally. There is NO lefty group that doesn't sh!t all over place and leave it behind for some downtrodden minority to pick up (you know, those same minorities said lefties say they're protesting for).

23 posted on 07/18/2013 7:42:06 PM PDT by workerbee (The President of the United States is DOMESTIC ENEMY #1)
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To: Huskrrrr

That book has been around for at least 20 years. Check the copyright.


24 posted on 07/18/2013 7:45:11 PM PDT by Calvin Locke
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To: Maelstorm

Smearing poop on a Bible or American flag is free speech to liberals, but hate speech if smeared on a Koran


25 posted on 07/18/2013 7:48:39 PM PDT by Freestate316 (Know what you believe and why you believe it.)
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To: Maelstorm

No, Speech comes out of the other end.


26 posted on 07/18/2013 7:51:57 PM PDT by paint_your_wagon
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To: Maelstorm; All
As I've ranted in related threads, the Founding nanny States never intended for our constitutionally protected privileges and immunities to be absolute, including those protected by the Bill of Rights.

In fact, historical material pertaining to James Madison, Thomas Jefferson, Justice John Marshall and John Bingham, the main author of Section 1 of 14th Amendment, all clearly indicate that the states had decided that general prohibitons of government power in the BoR applied only to the federal government unless expressly applied to the states.

For example, Jefferson had noted the following concerning the 1st and 10th Amendments. The Founding States had made the 10th Amendment to clarify that the states had reserved government power to regulate our basic 1st Amendment protected freedoms uniquely to themselves, regardless that they had made the 1st Amendment to prohibit such powers entirely to Congress.

"3. Resolved that it is true as a general principle and is also expressly declared by one of the amendments to the constitution that ‘the powers not delegated to the US. by the constitution, nor prohibited by it to the states, are reserved to the states respectively or to the people’: and that no power over the freedom of religion, freedom of speech, or freedom of the press being delegated to the US. by the constitution, nor prohibited by it to the states, all lawful powers respecting the same did of right remain, & were reserved, to the states or the people: that thus was manifested their determination to retain to themselves the right of judging how far the licentiousness of speech and of the press may be abridged without lessening their useful freedom, and how far those abuses which cannot be separated from their use should be tolerated rather than the use be destroyed; (emphasis added) …" --Thomas Jefferson, Kentucky Resolutions, 1798.

Although FDR's puppet justices later claimed that the 14th Amendment applied the BoR's limitations and prohibitions of certain government powers to the states, they wrongly ignored that John Bingham, mentioned above, had officially clarified in the congressional record that 14A did not take away state rights.

"The adoption of the proposed amendment will take from the States no rights (emphasis added) that belong to the States." --John Bingham, Appendix to the Congressional Globe. (see bottom half of first column)

"No right (emphasis added) reserved by the Constitution to the States should be impaired…" --John Bingham, Appendix to the Congressional Globe. (see top half of first column)

"Do gentlemen say that by so legislating we would strike down the rights of the State? God forbid. I believe our dual system of government essential to our national existance." --John Bingham, Appendix to the Congressional Globe. (see bottom half of third column)

So what institutionally indoctrinated Attorney Lauren Regan evidently doesn't understand about the 1st and 10th Amendments is the following. Based on Jefferson's words about 10A-protected nanny state power to reasonably regulate our 1A-protected rights, and Bingham's clarifications that 14A did not take such powers away, both cities and states can make laws which reasonably protect the public from potentially unsanitary expressions of so-called free speech.

27 posted on 07/18/2013 7:57:52 PM PDT by Amendment10
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To: Maelstorm

Is that some kind of spider in her hair?


28 posted on 07/18/2013 8:06:38 PM PDT by WorkingClassFilth (You hear it here first.)
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To: left that other site

pretty crappy way to protest. But, that may explain the jerks who don’t pick up their dog’s crap; they are protesting ... umm... well, I guess something.


29 posted on 07/18/2013 8:07:30 PM PDT by logic101.net (How many more children must die on the altar of "gun free zones"?)
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To: Maelstorm

Nowhere on earth has flinging fecal waste at others been considered free speech.

It is a health hazard and I would assume it to be a physical assault on me and my health. if those people have incurable infections of any kind that is potentially a death sentence.

I believe officers are allowed to shoot at people they believe have AIDS or other deadly diseases and are trying to infect others. I know courts give these people long sentences for deliberately doing this to people.


30 posted on 07/18/2013 8:13:00 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: logic101.net

Yep...even in our dog-friendly apartment complex, with baggie stations every hundred yards and plenty of disposal facilities, there are some clowns who do not pick up their pup’s poop.


31 posted on 07/18/2013 8:16:27 PM PDT by left that other site (You Shall Know the Truth, and the Truth Shall Set You Free...John 8:32)
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To: stilloftyhenight

And possibly fermented.


32 posted on 07/18/2013 8:16:46 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: Secret Agent Man

Free speech means they can speak but we don’t have to listen.

Their rights end where they infringe on my rights.

Flinging words, I can get away from. Crap flung at me that hits me, infringes my rights to live peaceably without being accosted and assaulted by others.


33 posted on 07/18/2013 8:18:48 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: Maelstorm

It’s a health hazard.

People can get sick.


34 posted on 07/18/2013 8:19:02 PM PDT by Tzimisce (The American Revolution began when the British attempted to disarm the Colonists.)
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To: Maelstorm

I hope they win this argument.

Because if they do, i’m going to exercise my free speech rights on the graves of people like Teddy Kennedy.


35 posted on 07/18/2013 8:36:38 PM PDT by NVDave
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To: Huskrrrr

There is another called “The gas we pass”


36 posted on 07/18/2013 8:37:08 PM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (Revenge is a dish best served with pinto beans and muffins)
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To: lormand

Yup


37 posted on 07/18/2013 9:00:08 PM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both.)
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear

You’re kidding!


38 posted on 07/18/2013 9:42:17 PM PDT by Huskrrrr
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To: Tzimisce

Leftists have no problem living in 3rd World squalor. Look to Detriot and those hoarding shows. Almost every single one of them comes across as some liberal environmentalist wacko.


39 posted on 07/18/2013 10:00:15 PM PDT by matt04
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To: cripplecreek

The means of production are in the hands of the lumpenproletariat and the ruling classes (i.e., OWS).


40 posted on 07/18/2013 10:02:09 PM PDT by Eleutheria5 (End the occupation. Annex today.)
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To: beelzepug

Proof that they’re full of it. I guess those pro abortion freaks in Austin believe throwing feces is free speech. In my oppinion those are fightin’ words.


41 posted on 07/18/2013 10:58:14 PM PDT by VerySadAmerican (If you vote for evil because you can't see evil, you ARE evil!)
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To: Maelstorm

minds.... what an assumption you make


42 posted on 07/18/2013 10:59:08 PM PDT by GeronL
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To: Maelstorm

Did you copy that from, or post it to, the Youtube comments? Or is it just a like-minds coincidence that “...they instead are using these poor people as pawns to raise their profiles as activists,” appears there as one of 3 comments?

In any case, right on! Libs are NEVER about actually helping those they adopt as a cause; and usually end up doing them harm; then fading into the woodwork, their own objectives achieved.


43 posted on 07/18/2013 11:26:54 PM PDT by ApplegateRanch (Love me, love my guns!©)
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To: Maelstorm

Somewhere there has got to be an EPA regulation violated there. They’ve got one for every situation.


44 posted on 07/19/2013 3:29:45 AM PDT by Right Wing Assault (Dick Obama is more inexperienced now than he was before he was elected.)
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To: Maelstorm

This is the direct result of the 60’s drug induced population and thier offspring


45 posted on 07/19/2013 3:45:52 AM PDT by ronnie raygun (Yesterdays conspiracies are todays truths)
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To: Maelstorm

My Labrador retriever is a great orator.


46 posted on 07/19/2013 4:19:30 AM PDT by Conspiracy Guy (To stay calm during these tumultuous times, I take Damitol. Ask your Doctor if it's right for you.)
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To: ApplegateRanch

Yes I posted it. :-) Usually it comes down to its about THEM. Its not about the homeless, its not about the downtrodden but how they can inflate their own power through the use of them.


47 posted on 07/19/2013 10:05:12 AM PDT by Maelstorm (If all are treated as suspects it will not be long before we all are treated as prisoners.)
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To: ApplegateRanch

Yes I posted it. :-) Usually it comes down to its about THEM. Its not about the homeless, its not about the downtrodden but how they can inflate their own power through the use of them.


48 posted on 07/19/2013 10:05:15 AM PDT by Maelstorm (If all are treated as suspects it will not be long before we all are treated as prisoners.)
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To: Maelstorm; Revolting cat!
“This is protocol at every protest,” she says. “You leave the place better than you found it.”

Been that way since Chicago '68 and Woodstock.

49 posted on 07/22/2013 10:11:30 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (America 2013 - STUCK ON STUPID)
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