Skip to comments.Archaeologists say they uncovered King David's Palace
Posted on 07/19/2013 8:48:47 PM PDT by Fractal Trader
Archaeologists in Jerusalem claim to have uncovered two large buildings fit for a king -- Biblical King David, that is.
But not all historians agree; one group even argues that King David was no king at all.
Over the past year, archaeologists have excavated a site that they believe to be the fortified Judean city of Shaarayim, where David smote Goliath as described in the Bible.
"The ruins are the best example to date of the uncovered fortress city of King David," said professors Yossi Garfinkel of Hebrew University and Saar Ganor, who led the excavations. "This is indisputable proof of the existence of a central authority in Judah during the time of King David."
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You beat me to it.
I always wonder how a place becomes a “ruin”. Over thousands of years everything gets covered with dirt.
Either that or the Romans cover it in dirt, and more dirt piles up over the centuries.
Wow, how cool!
I read that one when it came out, more than 30 years ago. All I remember is that a major plot point involves trying to construct a one-man space capsule that can reach orbit...using what amounts to early 20th Century technology.
I read it as “A Spaceship for the King” I remember reading it and the Kelly Freas cover art, but I’ll be darned if I can remember anything about it.
Remember, they used to say Pontius Pilate didn’t really exist... until they were proven categorically WRONG.
Let me guess, they work for the Aye-raabs. The muzzies would try to to discredit anything that reminds them and others of the strong Jewish history of that area. I think I will disregard anything else that group has to offer.
It’s set in Pournelle’s CoDominium future history, and the planet in question has reverted to a “steam, steel, and coal” stage. When it’s re-discovered by the CoDominium, it will essentially be a protectorate due to its technological backwardness...but if it can demonstrate the ability to send someone into orbit, it will be allowed self-rule.
So with technology that hasn’t yet managed to re-invent the airplane, they have to make a spaceship.
In the Middle East especially--with wind and dust--ruins disappear very quickly, literally almost in no time. I had an archeology professor who told us how a dig he worked on, was shut down for the season and when they came back to work on it again 6 months later, it was already half-buried again in dust and dirt. The Middle East is generally a very dry, dusty, windy place....
Wars would happen, palaces burnt or torn down...vacant for a while, covered over in blown in dust & dirt, then someone else comes along, and builds on top of these structures--over and over. One can have 6 or more subsequent layers--and since height is an advantage, new builders never bother to dig out the old underlying structures. This is how the famous "tels" (hills where towns were rebuilt...over and over) in the Middle East are formed.
Jerusalem has literally thousands of years of rebuilding layers over and over each other. Herod the Great's (infamous king of Jesus birth) building projects are still all over--(he was an amazing builder) and 2nd to that, are the Crusader structures from the 1100s. Getting down through all the layers to David's time (3000 years ago) is quite an archeological feat--especially in Jerusalem.
This CAN'T be good! :O
History tells us that the “experts” once thought that Nineveh did not exist either.
Is there a word for the irrational rejection of things because they are mentioned in the Bible?
Yep. Same with Troy.
“I always wonder how a place becomes a ruin. Over thousands of years everything gets covered with dirt.”
Faster if the empires that overrun your nation are intent on erasing any memory of your ever having been there.
That is what the Assyrians, Babylonians, Medes, Persians, Greeks and Romans did: they would raze whole cities to the ground and either rebuild on top of them or let nature bury them.
Often we hear the line today, “We should just nuke _________ and build a parking lot over it.” That’s essentially what happened to conquered nations thousands of years ago.
A quick visit to Detroit will answer many of your questions.
Every great (in terms of material achievement) civilization rises, peaks, becomes indolent and allows corruption to flourish, decays, and falls. To restart the process a thorough scouring and culling is required. This can come through a natural process such as a plague, or something man made like revolution and civil war or conquest and destruction by outsiders. This is why the popular photographic comparisons between Detroit and Hiroshima in 1945 and 2013 is extremely instructive.
Japan and Europe (especially Germany) had their slates cleaned. The latter is in the process of allowing, against the wishes of the vast majority of its native people ... you know, the ones whose ancestors actually built the place ... the gates open to a barbarian race who hate the host civilization and are working feverishly on its downfall even as it feeds and clothes their litters of offspring.
Part of the complication on Troy was the alteration of the coastline due to siltation and changes in sea level. The site as it exists today doesn’t fit Homer at all. But once the Bronze Age coastline was identified, problem solved.
BDS - Bible Derangement Syndrome
Theses for the Reconstruction of Ancient History (sec III)
The Reconstruction of Ancient History
New Evidence for Ages in Chaos
The Secret of Baalbek
The Siloam Aqueduct
The Date of Carthages Founding
How I Arrived at My Concepts
Jeroboam II and Osorkon II
The Reign of King Hezekiah
The Last Kings of Israel
Wow! Goosebumps over this one.
Thank you so much for that explanation. Never thought about it that way.
I’m not impressed with the level of discussion in this thread....
Well, I can see why. But it is Saturday....
Thanks for the ping. Fascinating stuff.
It’s almost time...
We live in a world of lost knowledge. Even in our own time how many great articles are posted on FR and forgotten over time.
thanks afraidfortherepublic for this additional topic:
3,000-year-old palace in Israel linked to biblical King David
NBC News | 7-20-13 | Allen Boyle
Posted on 07/20/2013 10:54:27 AM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
it’s already a big keyword, btw:
“Is there a word for the irrational rejection of things because they are mentioned in the Bible?”
Lots of secular Jews are heavily invested in there having been no real Israel or Judah at all.