Skip to comments.Vanity question: BASE ID STICKERS removal because of terrorism targets?
Posted on 07/23/2013 9:58:14 AM PDT by GailA
We are retired Military, have not been to base in past couple of weeks, the other day neighbor, retired Marine who still works civie @ the base in Millington, TN said ALL BASE ID STICKERS WERE TO BE REMOVED FROM YOUR WINDSHIELD.
Not personal stuff, just the BASE ID STICKERS.
We coasted up next to a CPO in uniform at the red light at Lowe's and got his attention, asked him if it was correct and he said it was. That BASE ID STICKERS were to be removed. No one can answer the question is it required of the retired as well as active duty and active Civie employees?
Any one with more intell?
This is an older style, newer one is much longer and is only decal stickers, not put on with nuts and bolts...goes on driver side windshield just above the hood line.
Just think of the long lines and SNAFU this will create at entrance gates.
I am retired Army in PA and routinely use the Carlisle Barracks facilities. The base stopped issuing new stickers a year or so ago but has not mandated that existing stickers be removed. Sticker or not, everybody has to go through security and show an ID. The situation you describe may be related to a local policy.
It’s true. My wife will be happy and I will be glad to get that ugly sticker off my beautiful truck.
The USAF Base I work(and retired from) on(OFFUTT/ACC) has not had Base Stickers for over 10 years. I am now sure how the rest of the DoD operates. You have to show your CAC or DoD ID to be admitted to the base.
I’m surprised that anyone would be allowed to bolt their sticker like that. Security Forces at Travis would have had a massive cow if they saw that, while I was stationed there 2004-06.
So, they won? We have so little control over our borders that anyone displaying a sticker showing military affiliation is at risk? Or are they afraid that the display of those specific registration stickers will enable counterfeiting? Time to go to an innocuous bar coding scheme.
Presumption is a threat exists, to you and family. As well cost reduction by dropping said stickers , process etc .... And the fact that this is just going to SOP that all ID’s are checked versus waving in a vehicle.
Also precludes an IED being placed on a snickered vehicle and letting you unknowingly deliver it on the base.
More inconvenient , better security.
My opinion as a retired EOD troop....
0bama does NOTHING to evoke patriotism for America. NOTHING. All he does is foment bitterness for America.
It was costing our base over a million $ a year to manage the program. It really is unnecessary since those authorized to enter the base are people not cars.
This was announced a few months ago. They will no longer be issuing decals opting for just ID check and periodic physical inspection. I think the cost was the biggest factor given the fact they need to print the stickers, staff people to hand them out, and have someone manage the database and so on..
They tried it a few years ago and it didn’t work out so here we go again.
We figure it will be back when an 07 or their spouse gets towed from the reserved spots or can’t get a reserved spot because someone else parked in there.
Navy has eliminated the need for decals on July 1st 2013. Marine Corps still requires decals (at least here in San Diego - MCAS Miramar, Camp Pendleton, and Recruit Depot in Point Loma.
“It probably has more to do with 0bama wanting to eliminate anything which triggers national pride, even something as seemingly trivial as a sticker. He’d kill the American flag if he could (give him time). The Kommie King’s mission is to snuff out national pride and patriotism. His cancellation of fleet week while taking a $100 million trip to Africa tells you the cancellation WASN’T about money.
0bama does NOTHING to evoke patriotism for America. NOTHING. All he does is foment bitterness for America. “
WOW! I read this and gotta ask you if you were reading my mind!
Except I never thought of calling him Kommie King. I have other names for him, but just me and my dog know them. FR would ban me...
I also believe NASA got out of the high-profile manned launch business because it put a spotlight on America as a super power. 0bama needed to kill that kind of thinking among Americans. There are numerous instances of 0bama going out of his way to avoid American tradition. When was the last time he gave a speech from the Oval Office as every other President has done? NEVER. He prefers standing in front of the yellow ‘banana Republic’ curtain, sometimes without our flag present.
I don’t recall much about stickers and cars from when I was in, but didn’t we used to just drive on to the base as long as we had a sticker?
If security is actually tight enough to check each driver and vehicle that comes on base now, then what purpose would the stickers serve?
Maybe someone finally got around to eliminating them.
Shouldn’t need stickers. They got a data base with your car’s license plate.
Navy Bases haven’t got the CLUE, yet.
Please see my post #20
SUBJ: USCG POV DECAL PROGRAM PRELIMINARY NOTICE OF TERMINATION
A. Physical Security and Force Protection Program, COMDTINST M5530.1 (series)
1. This ALCOAST announces the termination of the USCG POV DECAL program and amplifies the requirement for 100 percent ID card checks at all CG units. All designated CG issuing units shall plan to cease issuing CG POV decals no later than 01 JAN 2014. The formal termination of the CG POV DECAL Program is 30 SEP 2014. All CG issued decals should be removed from POV and destroyed by 31 DEC 2014. Members that access DOD bases requiring decals can apply/obtain a DOD decal from that installation.
2. Presently, the CG POV decal program is an optional program designed to provide Commanding Officers a tool to help regulate private vehicle traffic on CG units. It has also been used as a tool for security forces to ensure only authorized vehicle were aboard CG units. The program has become a redundant security and access control system over the past 8 years because a 100 percent personal ID check is now required to access all CG/DOD facilities. All vehicle occupants must possess a valid CG, DHS, or DOD issued identification card to gain access to CG units.
3. These policy changes do not impact the requirement that POVs seeking entrance to all CG/DOD facilities must be registered, inspected, and insured iaw State and local laws.
4. Iaw ref (a), a CO may disestablish their unit decal program prior to 30 Sep 2014 by following the below instructions.
a. A unit inventory must be conducted indicating the final disposition of all decals, issued and unused.
b. All unused decals shall be destroyed locally either by means of cross cut shredding or incineration.
c. Any unaccounted for decals shall be noted and reported to DCMS-34 via your cognizant Security Manager.
d. A memo signed by the issuing unit Commanding Officer shall be submitted to SECCEN with a copy to DCMS-34 and their cognizant Security Manager verifying local termination of the POV decal program.
5. Any questions concerning this ALCOAST should be directed to Randall Reau at (202)372-3703 or David Byrd at (202)372-3715.
6. VADM Manson K. Brown, Deputy Commandant for Mission Support, sends.
One standard counterintelligence technique is to try to hide your assets, so they are not selected for special attention.
Putting a sticker on the car of every employee working inside the wire is the opposite of that. Not quite as bad as giving every employee with a top secret clearance a tattoo on their forehead, but almost.
Sure, it makes life tougher for the security guards. They have to look all the way past where your sticker used to be down to your ID card. Sure it is less convenient for the retiree. A terrorist putting a bomb under a car with a sticker on it is pretty inconvient too.
We have plenty of home grown lefty terrorists too. Bill Ayers for one. The Occupy crowd. Any Humanities professor would be glad to be part of the support group. The SEIU would perhaps also.
I would think that for civvies the sticker would be optional. However, if it is truly a possible terrorist threat then why would one want to have the stickers on their vehicles? If I were retired military and someone told me of a possible terroist threat because of my stickers I do believe that I would promptly, voluntarily remove them.
Just my two sense. ;-)
Travis AFB is closed now so yeah that is old
Meanwhile you can still get on base using your ID etc..
your dog is a Great American
I think NASA got out of the manned launch business because the space shuttle wore out. They didn’t build a replacement, and that is probably a good thing. The private launch business should operate more efficiently, if not regulated into the ground.
Example: US operated Springfield Arsenal. During WWI, despite being in production for years, Springfield Arsenal was unable to produce sufficient firearms for the growing US Army, so the Remington and Winchester plants provided Enfield P-17 rifles (Mauser clone with cock on closing). More than half the US soldiers of WWI were equipped with P-17s despite there being ZERO P-17s when we entered the war. My P-17 is as good now as ever it was.
The British had previously let a contract with US factories to tool and produce the P-14, in .303 British. One different tool was added and the production was converted to P-17 in .30/06. Remington also made MosinNagant rifles for Imperial Russia in 7.62x54R and those were issued to some US soldiers for training and to soldiers going to Russia for operational use.
Remington also produced 1903 pattern springfield rifles during WWII.
SpaceX is down the street, at Jack Northrop Field in Hawthorne CA.
Our base stopped issuing new stickers at least 10 years ago. There is still a remnant with the base name on it on my old work car but the wife’s car doesn’t have any. They check everyone’s ID and scan it to make sure it is not a forgery and that you are not on a ban and bar. I have never been told to scrape off the sticker and I was just on base two days ago. Most of the intact stickers I see appear to be people who transferred in from other installations.
No edict to remove, as far as I know. They’re just not issuing anymore. The Air Force led the way when the top cop had to slash his budget and realized how much those little suckers cost the Department every year. Gotta, say, I kinda liked having my little chicken on the windshield for a couple of years...
All of the military facilities I deal with have positive ID check of ALL personnel entering.
Interesting, only the Navy is pushing the stickers; the AF and Army have scrapped them. For work, I have one on my truck windshield, but no one has asked me to remove it.
The AFB at Robins AFB did this several years ago. I HATE it, because if/when I ever go to another base, I can’t sail right through anymore. Yet it hasn’t caused much of any problems at the gate. There’s a 100% ID check too, since there’s no sticker to be had. And that’s not just the driver, that’s everyone in the car has to show some ID.
I thought it was AF wide, because it was the same at Tinker too, and Albuquerque.
I was a Navy wife, btw. I miss our bases.
That statement doesn’t even make sense. So they have a data base of the tag on the back of my car, how would that help me in getting on base?????????
The AF has this thing of reserving parking spaces for certain enlisted ranks. Being a Navy dependent, the one time I was accosted for parking in one, I just said “oh is that what that means????” and went on my way. heeheehee
Other than headquarters buildings, the Army allows RHIP parking only at nonappropriated fund activities like PX, commissary, or Officer & NCO clubs.
Long ago at the Fort Jackson officers’ club the first parking space said “Commanding General”. The very next one said “Any Second Lieutenant”. The third said “Deputy Commanding General” and so on.
Yup, but that’s about the only places I visit on base. :)
It was the only photo of one I could find on Bing, that came close to what I was describing, some need photos to understand.
This is recent, as we just got a new van about 8 months ago, and had to go through the process of getting stickers for it and a new one for my car which was set to expire.
Neighbor said to be sure to remove yourself, as they are not always careful and they cut the rubber on her car window.
It is like all the changes in TFL that are going on, none of the retiree’s are being informed of those either. Yet every year we get the Medicare change book, which most chuck in the trash.
Millington, TN Naval Base use to be a trainee base, a few years ago it went from training to BUPERS. And all the prices at the Exchange went up as the goods are now geared to the big brass with the bucks to buy a $200 Vera Wang wallet. Commissary now is expensive as the local chain grocery store Kroger’s, with the exception of 4 cents in taxation. I buy from the grocery store now as they give gas points off where the base does not.
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