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The start of the end — Mainstream press says “Politicians go cold on global warming”
JoNova ^ | July 23rd, 2013 | joanne

Posted on 07/25/2013 7:17:57 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach

The Zeitgiest is shifting. The unthinkable is now thought, and in public.

Politicians go cold as global warming debate loses spark

From: The Times    July 23, 2013 12:00AM,   Reprinted in The Australian

Soon will come the time when everyone says “I always knew it was wrong”.

Tim Montgomerie notes the great backdown of  Kevin Rudd on the carbon tax and lays out the global carnage in the climate meme:

Throughout the world green politicians are presiding over similar climbdowns. From Washington to London, shale gas rather than any renewable technology is seen as the future. Even nations such as Germany and Spain, which led the march to green energy, are slashing unaffordable subsidies to the renewables industry. British Conservative Nigel Lawson has claimed that the average share price of companies in the renewable sector has fallen by 80 per cent over five years. “One renewable company after another is going bankrupt,” he declared. The heavy cost of green energy policies might have been justifiable if they had delivered results, but they haven’t. Since the Kyoto treaty on climate change, global emissions have continued to rise. Since 1990 they have increased by about 50 per cent. China’s increase in emissions has been 25 times greater than the reduction by the EU’s core nations. In so far as Europe has actually met its environmental obligations, it has only done so by exporting industrial capacity (and jobs). Once the environmental impact of imported goods has been added to its carbon footprint, Europe has clearly failed to keep its environmental promises.

One commentator, Bjorn Lomborg, spelt out the futility of Europe’s unilateral environmentalism. Germany’s efforts to combat climate change might, he calculated, just possibly delay a rise in global temperatures by 37 hours, but that delay will have cost German taxpayers and consumers more than $US100 billion in the form of renewable subsidies and higher electricity costs. That’s about $US3bn an hour.

Green enthusiasts are kidding themselves if they blame the global economic slump for the failure of climate change policies. Their policies were always an attempt to defy economic gravity.

Montgomerie’s description of Rudd is very short:

… in the past 10 days one of the greenest of green politicians has to all intents, constructions and purposes given up. Last week, Australia’s green movement suffered a defeat at least as big as those of the country’s cricket and rugby teams. Rudd announced he would ditch the carbon tax that had threatened to consign his Labor Party to one of the worst defeats in its history…

Some will argue that Rudd has shifted to a trading scheme which is what he always wanted, and he’s only brought it forward by a year. But everyone knows that the reason for the shift was not because it would be “better for the climate” to reduce the carbon-price by 70%. Even Rudd himself admits the shift was to reduce the cost of living pressures.

Priority number one is not the environment. (But don’t expect Rudd to say that).

The short killer summary: The Skeptics Handbook. The most deadly point: The Missing Hot Spot.



TOPICS: Conspiracy; Science; Weather
KEYWORDS: climatechange; globalwarming; globalwarminghoax

1 posted on 07/25/2013 7:17:57 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

good. This issue has been fake from the start


2 posted on 07/25/2013 7:18:44 PM PDT by GeronL
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To: abclily; Marine_Uncle; NormsRevenge; SunkenCiv; Tolerance Sucks Rocks; onyx; TigersEye; ...

fyi


3 posted on 07/25/2013 7:19:19 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Are we really about to slay this dragon? I remember a time when I never stopped hearing about ‘global warming’. You couldn’t turn on a T.V. without the invisible rays of bulls6it reaching you.

Kill it now.


4 posted on 07/25/2013 7:21:00 PM PDT by Viennacon
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

the only hoax/fraud/scam Bigger than GloBULL warming, was the Greatest Trick the Devil Ever Pulled...

When He Convinced the World He Didn't Exist!!!

the RATS tried to convince the world GloBULL warming does

5 posted on 07/25/2013 7:25:42 PM PDT by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

The New Yorker stated - as a “given” - that the land area of one of the East River islands (Roosevelt or Rikers, can’t remember which) had diminished because the river was 4” higher than it once was.


6 posted on 07/25/2013 7:28:04 PM PDT by Steely Tom (If the Constitution can be a living document, I guess a corporation can be a person.)
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To: Viennacon
I remember a time when I never stopped hearing about ‘global warming’. You couldn’t turn on a T.V. without the invisible rays of bulls6it reaching you.

Have you watched any science-based programming on cable TV recently? The producers of those programs still haven't let it go.

7 posted on 07/25/2013 7:48:30 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Papa Doc Soetero will keep pushing it here til doomsday.


8 posted on 07/25/2013 7:59:37 PM PDT by Argus
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Hey Ernest,

Sadly Rudd’s decision has more to do with the little twerp getting elected than a real backdown. Old Kev is a UN boy through and through - a true believer in that area. He will find a way to increase their revenue from an ETS.

The great thing I suppose is there are enough people in Australia who care more about their wallets than AGW. Many of those however are convinced it is real but that little old Aust paying through the nose will do nothing while China is building a Coal fired Power Plant each week.

Still it is a step in the right direction.

Mel


9 posted on 07/25/2013 8:20:42 PM PDT by melsec (Once a Jolly Swagman camped by a Billabong.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Meanwhile the criminal Gore probably lays upon his beach chair and wonders how many years it will be before ice burgs smash his property front in the years to come, as father sun takes a rip van winkle nap.
Will he wonder where to get some warmth somewhere along the equator, as Southern hemisphere also goes into long cold extended winters.
10 posted on 07/25/2013 8:30:09 PM PDT by Marine_Uncle (Galt level is not far away......)
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To: Excellence

srbfl


11 posted on 07/25/2013 8:39:30 PM PDT by Excellence (All your database are belong to us.)
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To: Excellence

So sad. M. T. Suit and his holder will need to find another, new scam to foster on WTP to steal the gold from our pockets. Oh, they have!!! Taxes on the rain fall. That’s the ticket!!! They and ‘their people’ have given us just about as much grief as we can stand. Arrogant little twits.


12 posted on 07/25/2013 8:55:25 PM PDT by V K Lee
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To: V K Lee

Gee, that New Zealand family will want to hear about this. You remember, the family that eliminated itself. murder/suicide for what? A pack of lies from manipulators.


13 posted on 07/25/2013 8:58:54 PM PDT by V K Lee
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach; AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; ...

Thanks Ernest.


14 posted on 07/25/2013 9:13:54 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (It's no coincidence that some "conservatives" echo the hard left.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

When will the public school teachers stop indoctrinating the children with this nonsense?


15 posted on 07/25/2013 9:14:22 PM PDT by Rocky (Obama is pure evil.)
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To: melsec
China is building a Coal fired Power Plant each week.

The insanity of this -- forcing industry and power consumption to China -- instead of encouraging the relatively clean burning of fossil fuels that we can do in the Western world, is appalling. I was looking at our beloved EPA's own data a while back, and one conclusion to be drawn, though the EPA would never admit it, is that the fish in many, maybe even most bodies of water in the U.S., have more mercury in them from Chinese power plants than they do from local / U.S. sources. While I think that the threat of mercury in fish is overstated by some, still, it is NOT something you want to ingest much of.

16 posted on 07/25/2013 9:25:38 PM PDT by Paul R. (We are in a break in an Ice Age. A brief break at that...)
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To: Windflier

“Have you watched any science-based programming on cable TV recently?”

Global warming is alive, well and increasing rapidly in National Geographic.


17 posted on 07/25/2013 9:42:42 PM PDT by Rembrandt (Part of the 51% who pay Federal taxes)
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To: Rembrandt
Global warming is alive, well and increasing rapidly in National Geographic.

My wife scored a huge box full of National Geographic magazines some time back. Looking through them, I was disappointed to find that nearly every one of them had some reference to global warming on the cover, or in one of the main articles.

It's just shameful.

18 posted on 07/25/2013 10:14:13 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: All

This has to be, for two enormous reasons.

First, warming is not very significant. There is no crisis. The weather remains about the same as ever.

Second, the alternative green energy schemes don’t work. They can’t deliver. They will wreck the economy.

When you combine these in any logical way, the result has to be to abandon the politics of climate change and put the whole thing back on the back burner of specialist science where it can’t do any real harm whatever those people think at various points in time.

Turn the page, move on, and pretend it never happened, will be the motto of most realistic politicians. A few ultra-leftists will hold out for continued mass panic, and they will be pushed back into the single digits of public opinion from whence they came.

Then it will warm up like crazy (just kidding, but God has a sense of humour, let’s not forget).


19 posted on 07/26/2013 12:06:38 AM PDT by Peter ODonnell (It wasn't this cold before global warming)
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To: Viennacon
The governmentS spent 30 years funding fake research for a Hoax called global warming. If this doesn't show people that government is the threat and that government/socialism can never work then I don't know what will.

I've had a lot of debates with democrats. and they all believe in global warming. I tell them it's a hoax and they look at me like I have 2 heads. they really believe the evil news media. I tell them I'll see you in 2 years when the world will start getting colder (solar cycle 24 ) . will these democrats realize that the gov and media has been lying to them for 30 years and then realize what else they've been lied to about?

20 posted on 07/26/2013 1:01:49 AM PDT by Democrat_media (IRS rigged election for Obama and democrats by shutting down tea party)
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To: Democrat_media

They didn’t just fund fake research. They literally cost this country a fortune in regulations based on that hoax and brainwashed an entire generation of Americans with bullcrap.


21 posted on 07/26/2013 1:02:59 AM PDT by GeronL
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To: Rocky

When the school districts and states and the US Dept of Lies take it out of the curriculum


22 posted on 07/26/2013 1:04:10 AM PDT by GeronL
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To: GeronL
Yes true, all in an attempt to

1. destroy capitalism
2. grow government power
3. enslave us ( take away our rights and freedom)

many more reasons but these are the main ones , in one word :socialism/democrats . it's the same thing democrats=socialism

23 posted on 07/26/2013 1:05:47 AM PDT by Democrat_media (IRS rigged election for Obama and democrats by shutting down tea party)
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To: Peter ODonnell

Its actually going to get a lot colder in the next few years.

Google solar cycle 24 and solar cycle 25. we are in 24 now and it is a small one( we should start seeing the effects in a few years, extremely cold and long winters). already this spring was the coldest in memory.

The governmentS spent 30 years funding fake research for a Hoax called global warming. If this doesn’t show people that government is the threat and that government/socialism can never work then I don’t know what will.

I’ve had a lot of debates with democrats. and they all believe in global warming. I tell them it’s a hoax and they look at me like I have 2 heads. they really believe the evil news media. I tell them I’ll see you in 2 years when the world will start getting colder (solar cycle 24 ) . will these democrats realize that the gov and media has been lying to them for 30 years and then realize what else they’ve been lied to about?


24 posted on 07/26/2013 1:06:20 AM PDT by Democrat_media (IRS rigged election for Obama and democrats by shutting down tea party)
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To: Democrat_media

bump


25 posted on 07/26/2013 1:06:33 AM PDT by GeronL
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To: GeronL

Yes and the media went along with the Hoax too. for 30 years gov and the media have screeched “global warming”.

I can’t wait to see democrats with egg on their face as the world starts to cool in the next few years.

Its actually going to get a lot colder in the next few years.

Google solar cycle 24 and solar cycle 25. we are in 24 now and it is a small one( we should start seeing the effects in a few years, extremely cold and long winters). already this spring was the coldest in memory.


26 posted on 07/26/2013 1:08:07 AM PDT by Democrat_media (IRS rigged election for Obama and democrats by shutting down tea party)
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To: Democrat_media

In the last couple of years the GW nonsense has been changed to “Climate Change” which means they can point at ANYTHING in nature and blame human activity.


27 posted on 07/26/2013 1:09:43 AM PDT by GeronL
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To: Paul R.

You are so right that green laws and taxes are causing more greenhouse gases as manufacturing is ever more being forced to relocate to third world countries.


28 posted on 07/26/2013 2:03:31 AM PDT by melsec (Once a Jolly Swagman camped by a Billabong.)
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To: Democrat_media

I had one tell me to invest in sunscreen because “I saw this movie.”

I told her that a fur coat would be a better investment. She just stared. And, BTW, *recycled* fur coats are very trendy among the hipousie.

I’ve known these folks for 40 years and more. They are simply hypocrites in absolutely every facet of their lives. I would not be surprised to discover they are all prepped to the max and just not telling anyone, including their own children.


29 posted on 07/26/2013 5:51:05 AM PDT by reformedliberal
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To: GeronL

Yes, I’ve noticed that, too. They spout “global warming” until the “warming” part doesn’t fit - then it’s changed to “climate change”. As if the climate doesn’t change naturally and has since time began...


30 posted on 07/26/2013 5:59:59 AM PDT by babyfreep
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To: Steely Tom

There’s islands in the Pacific that are a few inches above sea level - they were the first that were suppose to ‘go under’ with global warming. They’re still there - still dry - and the left’s quit talking about them...

Seems what happens is one liberal tells a lie then the others add to it and new quotes are manufactured.


31 posted on 07/26/2013 7:24:32 AM PDT by GOPJ (Democrat dream: An America for everyone but Americans... freeper molson209)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
We have a friend who fell for this globull warming BS. He changed his roofing business into a solar panel business.

I wonder how he is feeling about now or is he in denial.

32 posted on 07/26/2013 7:31:18 AM PDT by Ditter
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To: Ditter

“We have a friend who fell for this globull warming BS. He changed his roofing business into a solar panel business.
I wonder how he is feeling about now or is he in denial.”

One of our younger relatives and his wife sold out to the green cause for the real green cause $’.

His wife’s relatives have had nothing to do with them or their children. Her relatives called it an attack on America and an act of treason.

He has had similar responses from his siblings, aunts and uncles. He and I used to be in fairly common communication. Now, it is basically a holiday update and happy birthday.

We have heard that his otherwise very intelligent wife has become a strident green liberal and blames we the dumb for their problems.


33 posted on 07/26/2013 1:04:07 PM PDT by Grampa Dave (Having a discussion with liberals is like shearing pigs. Lots of squealing & little fleece!)
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