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Bill Gates Is Beginning to Dream the Thorium Dream
motherboard ^ | 7/4/2014 | Brian Merchant

Posted on 07/27/2013 2:59:13 PM PDT by ckilmer

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To: Eric in the Ozarks

Greenies worship dirt.

Dirt has trace amounts of Thorium in it.....hey greenies, put that in your pipe and smoke it!!!!


21 posted on 07/27/2013 6:20:18 PM PDT by Kolath
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To: ckilmer; theBuckwheat

My understanding is that the French pebble bed uranium reactors are totally walkaway safe. Pellets of uranium are encapsulated in ceramics (think space shuttle tiles) that both keep the pellets at a uniform distance and also prevent meltdown should the water evaporate.


22 posted on 07/27/2013 6:20:58 PM PDT by SampleMan (Feral Humans are the refuse of socialism.)
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To: ckilmer

Have you read it? If so, how is it? Worth the $10?

I have not been able to find a review.

Thanks for the heads-up!


23 posted on 07/27/2013 8:41:00 PM PDT by BwanaNdege ("To learn who rules over you simply find out who you are not allowed to criticize"- Voltaire)
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Yeah, I read it. It gives a lot of details on why Gates should shift over to lftr—including links to detailed ongoing discussions between many physicists over the years that show how they shifted in favor of lftr; also a link to a paper written by Edward Teller—father of the H-bomb. In his last years —around 2004—at age 91— he wrote a paper which supported thorium reactors. I’m not quite sure what reactor design he specified. But the link to Teller’s paper is part of the report. Then there’s stuff like how to get across the valley of death —and around federal regulations...actually the US military wants to buy portable reactors for their bases in the USA so that they can get off the vulnerable grid—so they provide away around regulations as well as a first buyer.

There’s also some interesting stuff on desalination. Thorium lftr reactors promise to cut the cost of electricity to 1/10 current lowest cost coal produced electricity. This has profound effects on the cost of desalination—including the grand possibility of making desalinized water cheap enough for desert agriculture.

The ebook also mentions something the oil industry has since picked up on. Lower electricity costs will make insitu mining for oil shale in the green river basin (and in israel and elsewhere)....competitive. (because more than half the cost of insitu mining is the cost of electricity.) That’s the reason they have been involved in recent events that have promoted lftr companies like transatomic power. This would have been particularly galling for gates because one of the young MIT students who formed the company worked for Gates company and walked away to form TerraPower.

Those are the stories that stand out most to me. But there are a bunch of others. Including many that relate to water desalination. Its a good read with a good grasp of technology history and...if you’re into future history...that sort of thing too.


24 posted on 07/28/2013 3:38:03 PM PDT by ckilmer
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My understanding is that the French pebble bed uranium reactors are totally walkaway safe
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Walk away safe is only part of the reason that thorium lftr reactors produce such excitement. The biggest parts are that there is an unlimited supply of very cheap thorium; the thorium reactors can be used to burn up uranium wastes, thorium itself has a half life of only 300 years. Thorium can’t be used for atomic bombs.

Last bu not least however, is that thorium reactors will collapse the cost of electricity to 1/10th the cost of the cheapest coal based electricity.

getting electrical power for 1/10 the cost of current cheapest cost electricity ... will set off a new industrial and agricultural revolution as big as anything seen in the 19th or 20th centuries.


25 posted on 07/28/2013 3:44:31 PM PDT by ckilmer
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This would have been particularly galling for gates because one of the young MIT students who formed the company worked for Gates company and walked away to form TerraPower.
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I didn’t write this quite right. This should read....

This would have been particularly galling for gates because one of the young MIT students who worked for Gates company called TerraPower .... walked away to form Transatomic Power.


26 posted on 07/28/2013 3:48:06 PM PDT by ckilmer
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To: ckilmer

You have my interest. What is the best source for me to read up on thorium?


27 posted on 07/28/2013 4:38:22 PM PDT by SampleMan (Feral Humans are the refuse of socialism.)
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To: SampleMan

There are a couple references up the thread. Also just google “thorium reactor” or lftr or Flibe thorium or transatomic power.

What makes this ebook interesting that was published last summer http://www.amazon.com/kindle-store/dp/B0089Z7V6Y

is that two of its recommendations have already been implemented: gates to shift to thorium. the oil industry should shift to thorium or lftr.


28 posted on 07/30/2013 8:13:25 PM PDT by ckilmer
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