Posted on 07/28/2013 1:18:22 PM PDT by Kip Russell
There’s a good reason that law abiding gun owners don’t want their names on a national gun registry — namely, registration leads to confiscation. Gun control advocates immediately spout that “no one wants to take your guns” and other assorted platitudes designed to comfort gun owners about the prospect of being treated like sex offenders. And yet, from the city of Chicago comes a story of exactly that: registered gun owners having their guns confiscated . . .
In Illinois, gun owners are required to get a Firearms Owners ID card, or FOID. It’s good for 10 years, and then you need to it. But if you don’t renew your card, or if you do something that displeases the powers that be, your FOID is NULL and VOID. Which means you can’t own guns legally.
Cook County police officers have become increasingly worried that when someone’s FOID card is revoked, their guns aren’t instantly confiscated. So they’re doing exactly what gun control advocates have said that registration would never result in — door to door confiscation.
(Excerpt) Read more at thetruthaboutguns.com ...
So let it be written, so let it be done.
Ah, just like Mexico ... only the authorities and criminals are allowed to have guns (and it’s hard to distinguish between the two), all the rest are potential victims.
it’s also theft. they paid for those items legally and it is their property.
if you let your license expire they don’t repo your vehicle. (crap i don’t want to give the knobs any new ideas)...
This government is our enemy and that includes Congress and the Supreme Court!
Congress and the Supreme Court have degenerated into rubber stamps for the Executive branch to do with as it pleases.
The feral government has declared its independence of us, the people.
if you miss church they don’t come and take your bible.
if you get fired from the paper or stop blogging, they don’t come and demand your computer.
The psychology of this is well known, and therefore inexcusable for them to perpetuate.
One of the most famous psychology experiments ever, included in most first semester textbooks, is the Stanford Prison Experiment, where volunteers were separated randomly into groups of prisoners or wardens, and allowed to act out a prison scenario. The experiment had to be halted early due to the extreme behavior the experiment caused.
The DHS is a Stanford experiment gone mad. Clothes make the man, and they are dressed like an army. Armies need enemies to fight. They can't name Islam as the enemy due to political correctness. They can't label foreigners as they enemy either, so there is only one group of people left, the American people. We are a threat to the government, we are the terrorists. They are not fighting terrorism, but they will cause it. People eventually will rebel against it, and that will "prove" the DHS was right to consider the Americans as the real enemy.
These cowards would not dare take the gangbangers guns nor will they ever. their aim is to make you and your family defenceless and targets
We studied the Stanford experiment in Psychology class. It was a real eye opener for me. People would be amazed at what others will do just because they get a taste of power over others. Hence, what is going on in our government.
So, were they properly notified that their card had expired? Sounds like they are busy making criminals out of innocent people.
I wish there was some way of making courts recognize that:
If nearly all ammunition which is in ordinary commerce (as opposed to hand-loaded specialty rounds) would meet the appropriate specifications, and if the packaging requirements for non-standard ammo were designed to be easy to comply with, I would posit that such an ordinance should pass constitutional muster. If, however, it required that "standard" ammunition have tighter tolerances than used in normal industry practice, and required all "nonstandard" ammunition be packaged in $500 boxes, it should not pass muster. The question of whether the standard is constitutional would be dependent on a variety of factual determinations, and as such should be a subject for jury inquiry (along with the question of whether someone accused of violating the ordinance made a good-faith effort to comply with the stated intention of the ordinance. If the actions of a person charged with violating an ordinance show "better faith" than those charged with authoring or enforcing it, that should be a basis for acquittal.
This essay was written 12 years ago. It spells it out:
http://gunwatch.blogspot.com/2012/12/gun-registration-is-gun-confiscation.html
Yes, but without any pretense of a chivalrous warrior code.
I can’t imagine living in a crap hole like Illinois.
The last time I looked at the statutes, transporting a firearm which was not disassembled on a public right of way required that one posses a current an unexpired FOID card. Likewise the purchase of firearms or ammunition. On the other hand, the statute which requires a FOID for possession of a firearm which is disassembled or is on one's own property requires that one have a FOID card which had been previously issued by the Illinois State Police. The latter statute did not include the adjectives "current and unexpired" which were used in the earlier-mentioned statutes; because there would be a clear and logical reason for the difference, I see no basis to consider the omission of the adjectives in the latter case accidental.
If one reads the parts of the statute which say "current and unexpired" as meaning that, and those that say "previously issued by the Illinois State Police" as meaning that, then a person whose FOID card expired would still be allowed to possess firearms in their dwelling, or to transport them if they were disassembled, but would have to renew the card in order to buy firearms or ammunition or to transport firearms in an assembled condition. Such a reading would be consistent with a presumption that the purpose of valid laws is not to create criminals but to facilitate compliance (arguably, all laws should be required to at least claim to have that as a purpose, so I see no basis for claiming that a law should be interpreted in such fashion as to contradict it). I'm unaware of any cases where defendants accused of home possession with an expired FOID have asserted the statutory reading described above, but since the plain text of the statute is (or was last I checked) as I describe, I see no legitimate basis for a court to assert that it means something other than what it says. That doesn't mean courts won't ignore the actual wording of statutes, of course, but what the statutes actually say is nowhere near as outrageous as how they've been enforced.
The suburbs, yea that's where all the trouble is. Who knows what outrage the Tea Partiers are going to pull next.
I would leave my guns loaded and laying on the sidewalks of the worst neighborhoods in Chicago before I would hand them over to the government.
This will lead to every police officer or vehicle being attacked randomly, and constantly.
If the police make of themselves the enemy of the public, they will lose the war, because they are outnumbered tremendously. I cannot believe that any intelligent police officer would allow themselves to be a part of this insanity.
These jack boots and their fascist masters know nothing about guerrilla warfare and real urban resistance. It’s a ball buster for the military to deal with, these tough ass Ranger wannabees are in for more than they bargained for.
SHTF and they try to make the fascist state official, then a genuine, organized resistance will evolve fairly quickly. Their image of the American citizen as helpless victim will undergo a radical revision. It will be bloody, but it won’t be a one sided cakewalk as they expect it to be.
Bullies are usually surprised when their intended victim kicks them in the cajones rather than submitting. It does happen.
Perhaps there are a bunch of unintelligent police officers out there???? Who knows for sure.
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