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North Korea's hottest tourist attraction: 60-year-old USS Pueblo
Twincities.com ^ | 07/27/2013 10:15:59 AM CDT | UPDATED: 3 DAYS AGO | Giles Hewitt, AFP

Posted on 07/30/2013 5:41:18 PM PDT by Ronald_Magnus

PYONGYANG — North Korean leader Kim Jong-Un unveiled Saturday a renovated Korean War museum with a US-baiting centrepiece in the form of the spy ship USS Pueblo, captured in 1968.

Kim, wearing his trademark black Mao suit,cut the red ribbon on the monumental Victorious Fatherland Liberation War Museum after inspecting an honour guard in front of thousands of war veterans and invited foreign guests.

Entering the museum's main doors, the first sight greeting visitors is a four-metre high coloured statue of what looks remarkably like Kim, but turns out to be a youthful representation of his grandfather and the nation's founder Kim Il-Sung.

Much of the museum collection is a paean to Kim Il-Sung's strategic battlefield brilliance -- credited with bettering the might of the US military in the Korean War.

The 1950-53 conflict essentially ended with North and South Korea occupying the same territory they held at the start, but the 1953 armistice is celebrated in the North as "Victory Day".

The museum opening coincided with the 60th anniversary of the ceasefire, which was never cemented with a treaty, leaving the two Koreas still technically at war.

Giant statues aside, the main draw of the museum is the USS Pueblo, berthed on the river bank next to the main museum building.

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I think it would be fascinating to visit the ship. Do any of you other Freepers feel the same way? Would we be doing the crew a disservice? Would it be shameful to let North Korea have any of our tourist dollars? I looked into this trip. It would be a matter of getting to Bejing and then traveling to PYONGYANG by train with a tour group. I'd like to hear what the rest of you think.

1 posted on 07/30/2013 5:41:18 PM PDT by Ronald_Magnus
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To: Ronald_Magnus

the hull of that ship must be paper thin by now


2 posted on 07/30/2013 5:41:52 PM PDT by GeronL
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To: Ronald_Magnus

Its a propaganda tour. They make you hear lectures and watch video about how evil America is, right there on the boat


3 posted on 07/30/2013 5:42:27 PM PDT by GeronL
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To: Ronald_Magnus

“I think it would be fascinating to visit the ship”

I would be more fascinated at how many of these commie sh*ts I could strangle.


4 posted on 07/30/2013 5:44:00 PM PDT by max americana (fired liberals in our company after the election, & laughed while they cried (true story))
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To: Ronald_Magnus

Still a commissioned ship of the United States Navy. We should either go recapture it or drop the big one on it.


5 posted on 07/30/2013 5:44:17 PM PDT by Pan_Yan (I believe in God. All else is dubious.)
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To: GeronL

“Its a propaganda tour. They make you hear lectures and watch video about how evil America is, right there on the boat”

I get that, but it would come off as just a joke to any sane person.


6 posted on 07/30/2013 5:46:09 PM PDT by Ronald_Magnus
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To: Ronald_Magnus

Bomb the sucker.


7 posted on 07/30/2013 5:46:14 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: Ronald_Magnus

Communist news lies there, just as it lies here.


8 posted on 07/30/2013 5:46:24 PM PDT by NoLibZone (There is only one solution: Secession by the Red states.No need to be in the NYC union.)
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To: Ronald_Magnus

Good Lord-—I remember that incident.

Sixty years ago-—seems like yesterday.

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9 posted on 07/30/2013 5:48:36 PM PDT by Mears
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To: Mears

To me it feels like it happened in 1968.


10 posted on 07/30/2013 5:50:48 PM PDT by ansel12 ( Santorum appeared on CBS and pronounced George Zimmerman guilty of murder, first degree. March-2012)
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To: Pan_Yan

After 60 years, getting it back would be worthless. I vote Cruise missile.


11 posted on 07/30/2013 5:52:07 PM PDT by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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To: Ronald_Magnus

Yep, would like to see if they replaced the old WLR-1 that was aboard.


12 posted on 07/30/2013 5:53:47 PM PDT by doc1019 (Get our troops the hell out of the ME)
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To: Ronald_Magnus
We ought to send a SEAL team in to destroy the ship as we destroyed the USS Philadelphi in 1804 after it was captured by Barbary pirates.
13 posted on 07/30/2013 5:54:47 PM PDT by Fiji Hill
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To: Ronald_Magnus
There are a great number of old USN ships preserved and on display in US ports that are of more historical significance and much more interesting than this one.

As a side note, as an old USN First Lieutenant, I can tell from the photograph below that they did not scrape the old paint and rust off the stanchions before they painted it. That's shoddy seamanship and it's not gonna work out well for them. (First Lieutenant on a ship is a billet not a rank and supervises the Deck Division and is responsible for the appearance and proper maintenance of the outside of ship from the waterline to the top of the mast.)


14 posted on 07/30/2013 6:07:06 PM PDT by atomic_dog
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To: Ronald_Magnus

The Korean War ended 60 years ago.

The Pueblo was Captured in 1968. I remember the incident. I was 16 years old.


15 posted on 07/30/2013 6:11:39 PM PDT by left that other site (You Shall Know the Truth, and the Truth Shall Set You Free...John 8:32)
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To: American in Israel

The ship was captured in 1968, The 60 years refers to the Korean cease fire not the age of the ship.

The ship was launched at the Kewaunee Shipbuilding and Engineering Company in Kewaunee, Wisconsin, on 16 April 1944, as the United States Army Freight and Passenger (FP) FP-344. The Army later redesignated the FP vessels as Freight and Supply changing the designation to FS-344.[6] The ship, commissioned at New Orleans on 7 April 1945, served as a Coast Guard manned Army vessel used for training civilians for the Army. Her first commanding officer was Lt. J. R. Choate, USCGR, succeeded by Lt. J.G. Marvin B. Barker, USCGR, on 12 September 1945.[7] The FS-344 was placed out of service in 1954.

The FS-344 was transferred to the United States Navy on April 12, 1966 and was renamed USS Pueblo (AKL-44) after Pueblo County, Colorado on June 18 of the same year. The Pueblo is the third U.S. Navy ship to be named after the city of Pueblo or Pueblo County.

Initially, she served as a light cargo ship, AKL-44, but shortly after resuming service was converted to an intelligence gathering ship, or what is colloquially known as a spy ship, and redesignated AGER-2 on 13 May 1967. AGER (Auxiliary General Environmental Research) denoted a joint Naval and National Security Agency (NSA) program


16 posted on 07/30/2013 6:13:45 PM PDT by Nuocmam
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To: left that other site

“ended” isn’t the right word.

North Korea has staged occasional strikes and attacks on South Korea. Technically they are still at war.


17 posted on 07/30/2013 6:16:10 PM PDT by GeronL
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To: GeronL

I hear you. There have been many acts of war in the last 60 years. The seizing of the USS Pueblo is one of them.


18 posted on 07/30/2013 6:17:48 PM PDT by left that other site (You Shall Know the Truth, and the Truth Shall Set You Free...John 8:32)
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To: ansel12

Is it 2028?


19 posted on 07/30/2013 6:23:37 PM PDT by Vermont Lt (Does anybody really know what time it is? Does anybody really care?)
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To: Ronald_Magnus

Yea!Rhe Norks should feel really proud capturing an unarmed Intelligence ship.What a wreck of a Government.

Hopefully ours doesn’t go thaty way though Obama would sure like to see it.After all,He has to be loved.


20 posted on 07/30/2013 6:26:31 PM PDT by puppypusher (The World is going to the dogs.)
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To: puppypusher

and they milk its propaganda value for 50 years... really sad.


21 posted on 07/30/2013 6:28:57 PM PDT by GeronL
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To: Vermont Lt

In WWII it was a US Army ship and was transferred to the US Navy in 1966.


22 posted on 07/30/2013 6:29:16 PM PDT by ansel12 ( Santorum appeared on CBS and pronounced George Zimmerman guilty of murder, first degree. March-2012)
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To: Ronald_Magnus

The title does imply the ship is 60 years old. Hey, what can I say? I just copy and paste. :)


23 posted on 07/30/2013 6:30:07 PM PDT by Ronald_Magnus
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To: Ronald_Magnus

we should wait until the next thing the do that is really stupid and go take it back.

just to show we can


24 posted on 07/30/2013 6:32:16 PM PDT by Mr. K (Lies, Damned Lies, and Statistics, and then Democrat Talking Points.)
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To: Ronald_Magnus

PUNK A$$ LITTLE chunks of diarrhea. They got some country goin there where their biggest point of interest is a dented 60 yr old tub....They spend their time lecturing visitors and re painting an ancient hunk of rust while their children starve....pathetic slimeballs...


25 posted on 07/30/2013 6:36:18 PM PDT by jimsin
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To: Ronald_Magnus

And still today, we get the “Hawaiian Peace symbol” when we ask about a certain birth certificate.


26 posted on 07/30/2013 6:39:59 PM PDT by BerryDingle (I know how to deal with communists, I still wear their scars on my back from Hollywood-Ronald Reagan)
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To: ansel12

“To me it feels like it happened in 1968.

:-)

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27 posted on 07/30/2013 6:45:49 PM PDT by Mears
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To: Ronald_Magnus
Yes it would be great to visit and I'll make my plans to see it...

...when North Korean is a reunited under a free capitalistic, Democratic Korean state.

28 posted on 07/30/2013 6:54:46 PM PDT by RedMonqey ("Gun-free zones" equal "Target-rich environment.")
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To: Nuocmam

Don’t forget the crew member who was killed during this event. In the late 80s I was in school to do what he did. We were told the marines on board shot him to keep him from being captured.


29 posted on 07/30/2013 6:56:02 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: GeronL
.Its a propaganda tour. They make you hear lectures and watch video about how evil America is, right there on the boat

I can hear the mouth of Sauron...errr... I mean NorCom mouthpiece making as if they captured the Mighty Mo(USS Missouri)

That'll show them Capitalist running dogs who really won the war.
30 posted on 07/30/2013 7:04:29 PM PDT by RedMonqey ("Gun-free zones" equal "Target-rich environment.")
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To: RedMonqey

There was a video on Youtube about the “Vice Guide to North Korea” that took that tour with their hidden camera


31 posted on 07/30/2013 7:06:07 PM PDT by GeronL
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To: Ronald_Magnus

Stephen Decatur destroyed a captured US warship in the hands of Moroccan pirates. Why can’t we accidentally have a drone hit the Pueblo.


32 posted on 07/30/2013 7:12:42 PM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar (Sometimes you need 7+ more ammo. LOTS MORE.)
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To: Ronald_Magnus
I think it would be fascinating to visit the ship.

What would be fascinating is this. Get a CIA operative in as part of a tour group. Plant a bomb under the water line. Set the bomb to go off at a week later at three in the morning.

Then have the US National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration blame the explosion on moon flares, or underwater whirlpools, or something like that.

33 posted on 07/30/2013 7:12:48 PM PDT by Leaning Right
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To: GeronL

You mean like the Smithsonian ?


34 posted on 07/30/2013 7:14:52 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (Resist We Much)
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To: fieldmarshaldj

lol


35 posted on 07/30/2013 7:22:49 PM PDT by GeronL
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To: Ronald_Magnus

‘“Its a propaganda tour. They make you hear lectures and watch video about how evil America is, right there on the boat”

I get that, but it would come off as just a joke to any sane person.’

Why are you so anxious to make cash contributions to Communist totalitarians? If you want to see evil personified, go to Germany and visit some of the former POW camps.


36 posted on 07/30/2013 8:49:44 PM PDT by Rembrandt (Part of the 51% who pay Federal taxes)
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To: Ronald_Magnus

I was in Navy boot camp when the crew was released 12/23/1968.


37 posted on 07/30/2013 9:09:25 PM PDT by longhorn too
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To: Ronald_Magnus
I've read accounts where Commander Lloyd M. Bucher warned his superiors before deployment the ship was not capable of being defended and worse that the classified equipment could not be E'D in a timely manner due to lack of means to accomplish it.

Another part of the Johnson/McNamara Legacy is PUEBLO was blindsided going into deteriorating conditions known too other but it wasn't warned about. NK knew she was coming. The mission had been compromised and should have been aborted by the Pentagon before PUEBLO got into risk.

You can not do this kind of an E'D without sufficient explosives. Setting the ship on fire won't do it. Navy ships are built too float not sink.

It doesn't matter it wasn't classified combat it was carrying classified information and as such there should have been means to achieve destruction of same in short order.

38 posted on 07/30/2013 10:21:30 PM PDT by cva66snipe (Two Choices left for U.S. One Nation Under GOD or One Nation Under Judgment? Which one say ye?)
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