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Posted on 07/30/2013 8:58:36 PM PDT by Olog-hai
Christian Broadcast Network leader and personality Pat Robertson, 83, is known for his controversial commentary. And his most recent remarks about the transgender community are no exception. Contrary to what one might expect, though, he struck an understanding tone in addressing these individuals and even made some comments about sin that will raise eyebrows.
When a viewer named David wrote in to ask how he should refer to two female co-workers who are transgender and who have surgically changed sexes, Robertson delivered some surprising advice.
Robertson called the procedure radical and proceeded to make the most intriguing and controversial comments on the subjectviews that are earning him praise among left-of-center blogs that typically lambaste his comments about gays.
I dont think theres any sin associated with that, he continued. I dont condemn somebody for doing that.
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Guess Pat missed Deuteronomy 22:5, at the very least.
Liberals Praise Pat Robertson After Shocking Transgender Comments: I Dont Think Theres Any Sin Associated With That
That's what I was thinking.
What's with the scare quotes; if gender-reassignment surgery isn't a "radical" procedure than what is?
You are not alone in being torn by this kind of issue. Unfortunately there are many here whose ability to discuss these topics has not progressed much beyond the third grade schoolyard.
“If you love those who love you, what credit is that to you? Even sinners love those who love them.” Luke 6:32
Regardless that many unrepentant sinners like to depict Jesus as a "Mr. Nice Guy" who forgives sins (so why not keep on sinning?), Matthew 10:34-39 indicates that Jesus said that he did not come to bring peace to the earth, but division.
In fact, as I have indicated in related threads, 1 Corinthians 5 shows that Paul effectively "cast the first stone" when he strongly advised the church in Corinth to expel the members who were practicing incest. (They would have been put to death in OT times.)
Also, 1 Corinthians 6:9-11 not only warns, "do not be deceived" concerning things like sexual immorality, but also note the following. Paul had also indicated that certain members of that church had been involved in such immorality, but had evidently accepted God's grace to repent and turn their lives around.
I am a raccoon trapped in a human body. They have yet to offer me a surgical solution
While the Bible doesn’t directly refer to transgender, it does say that in the beginning God created them male and female. Also, in Jeremiah, God says that before we were born - He knew us. So, I believe the sex of the child is by God’s plan and design and people should accept who they are and how they were created. In my opinion, to change your sex is calling God a liar and a screw up.
Just my opinion, of course.
People have been born with all sorts of abnormalities. People are born with cleft pallets, with closed nasal passages, etc.
Is it not possible, in your mind, that one might be born with both male and female attributes, and that life would be easier for such people if they were allowed to make a choice?
I doubt, very seriously, that God will look kindly on those who pretend to know his heart on these issues, and use that pretentious, prideful and judgmental attitude to justify actions that are less than Christian, towards such people.
Yes, sin is sin. But the jails are full sinners. The Churches are also full of sinners.
Why not picket or protest shoplifting or purse snatching or any number of other sins?
I do not get the obsession some have with these issues.
They are sad cases, but I do not have the authority to call it “sin” when someone is actually born with both male and female physical traits and hormones.
It does happen.
wow...no sin with changing the way God made them? This man is looney...
Regarding our bodies, Job noted in Job 10:11 that God has essentially clothed our spirits with skin and flesh.
The additional passages you cited are also rejections of behavior that explicitly prohibited (i.e. incest) in other areas of the Bible. But this doesn’t deflect from the argument that, I think, Rev. Robertson is making by saying that he can’t call it a sin, presumably because there isn’t a Bible passage that says so.
Birth defects are different. A person, for the most part comes equipped with male or female parts. Your post is just stupid. Being born male or female is Not a birth defect, it is a psychological problem which develops.
Of course, it is extremely rude, not to mention cruel, to even draw attention to one's physical attributes that are considered less attractive. Laying that aside, to consider such things as dark hair on upper lips, pronounced "adam's apples," etc. as a sign that that woman might be a "genetic mistake" is incorrect.
Both sexes have male and female sexual attributes (if I'm making a mistake in my description, please excuse me here), those sexual attributes are more noticeable at different stages in their lives, i.e. male babies might even have droplets of milk seeping from their breasts shortly after birth and many women develop "male patterned baldness" and long dark hairs appearing on their chin after a certain age, these have nothing whatsoever to do with genetic "mistakes," but they do indicate, especially for middle age women, their estrogen hormone falling faster than one would like.
Likewise, some men after a certain age, develop osteoporosis (fragile and breaking bones) when the male hormone, testorone, falls dangerously low, which also happens to women of advancing age.
Fortunately, medical research has advanced to such a stage where some genetic medical conditions are no longer considered a "fact of life," but medically treatable.
Unless one comes from a very backward segment of society, undeveloped male or female sex organs by a certain age, no longer is thought to be freakish but while not commonplace, certainly treatable, like many other medical conditions.
Lastty, are there men and women who have never had a strong desire for sex, most definitely; does that make one homosexual, most definitely not.
Having a low sex drive (low testorone or "low T" in today's advertisements) makes no one homosexual, it only means one's desire for sex isn't as strong as another's.
I suggest you stop posting on this subject, and that you also stop calling people “stupid” — until you study this issue and know what you are talking about.
You clearly do not currently understand the medical issues, and I also suspect you are not an expert on the moral issues involved, either: