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Historical World War I PHOTO: Harley Davidson Motorcycle with Mounted Machine-Gun
Retronaut ^ | (est. 1917) World War I | Retronaut

Posted on 08/04/2013 12:33:23 PM PDT by DogByte6RER

World War I - Harley Davidson motorcycle with mounted machine gun

In 1917, the United States entered World War I and the military demanded motorcycles for the war effort. Harleys had already been used by the military in the Pancho Villa Expedition, but World War I was the first time the motorcycle had been adopted for combat service. Harley-Davidson provided about 15,000 machines to the military forces during World War I.

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KEYWORDS: 1917; badass; banglist; gunsandammo; harley; harleydavidson; modernhistory; motorcycles; thegreatwar; worldwar1; worldwat1
American made motorcycles with mounted machine-guns ... very bad@ss.
1 posted on 08/04/2013 12:33:23 PM PDT by DogByte6RER
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To: DogByte6RER

A Harley V-twin with a Hotchkiss 8mm machinegun - now THAT’s a man’s machine!


2 posted on 08/04/2013 12:37:04 PM PDT by Chainmail (A simple rule of life: if you can be blamed, you're responsible.)
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To: DogByte6RER

Two cycles in this picture? Or one with two front wheels?


3 posted on 08/04/2013 12:38:47 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: DogByte6RER

finally! a way to get that parking place at Costco!


4 posted on 08/04/2013 12:39:15 PM PDT by faithhopecharity (E)
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To: DogByte6RER

Is that a Stealth WWI plane in the upper left?


5 posted on 08/04/2013 12:39:16 PM PDT by bgill (This reply was mined before it was posted.)
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To: DogByte6RER

Look Twice for Motorcycles...Or Else!


6 posted on 08/04/2013 12:39:48 PM PDT by Bryanw92 (Sic semper tyrannis)
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To: bgill

Yes it is. The mounted Ipad was washed out of the photo but they forgot the plane.


7 posted on 08/04/2013 12:42:27 PM PDT by MaxMax (If you're not pissed off, you're not paying attention)
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To: DogByte6RER
Unless there's a sidecar it's mounted on(that I can't see), I don't see this as being very practicable.

And must have been a b#stard to drive it.

Nope don't see it.

8 posted on 08/04/2013 12:58:01 PM PDT by RedMonqey ("Gun-free zones" equal "Target-rich environment.")
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To: RedMonqey
There is, just obscured by the bike and soldiers:



There was also an ambulance version:


9 posted on 08/04/2013 1:02:14 PM PDT by tanknetter
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To: DogByte6RER
This looks like it might be the flip side of the setup:


10 posted on 08/04/2013 1:07:36 PM PDT by PLMerite (Shut the Beyotch Down! Burn, baby, burn!)
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To: DogByte6RER

They ought to reintroduce them. Might just put some pep in HD sales.


11 posted on 08/04/2013 1:10:52 PM PDT by meatloaf
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To: DogByte6RER

Sure beats trying to fire it from horseback. What’s next? Mounting them from aeroplanes?


12 posted on 08/04/2013 1:14:13 PM PDT by Sasparilla
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To: 1rudeboy
Two cycles in this picture?

Found same pic with slightly different angle.

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-KPVYkHmZqXU/UQNI-5NpTiI/AAAAAAAAFnE/SSTApfcJWy4/s1600/HarleyDemo-WWI.jpg

Sorry, dunno how to post pix/ With weight of at least quarter inch steel plate in addition of machine gun/ammo/gunner/rider) this motorcycle had the offensive mobility of a washing machine on wheels...
13 posted on 08/04/2013 1:15:32 PM PDT by RedMonqey ("Gun-free zones" equal "Target-rich environment.")
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To: PLMerite
With armor in place...

If you don't have a Harley for your Hotchkiss, use your bicycle...


14 posted on 08/04/2013 1:16:46 PM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: tanknetter

Thanx

I was away looking for better pictures and looks like you FOUND them.

lol


15 posted on 08/04/2013 1:17:16 PM PDT by RedMonqey ("Gun-free zones" equal "Target-rich environment.")
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To: RedMonqey

Not to mention, look at the guy sitting on the rear to keep it from recoiling . . . .


16 posted on 08/04/2013 1:17:32 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: Sasparilla
What’s next? Mounting them from aeroplanes?

Man will NEVER achieve heavier than air flight.(rolls eyes)

The future is in Zepplin stocks...
17 posted on 08/04/2013 1:19:41 PM PDT by RedMonqey ("Gun-free zones" equal "Target-rich environment.")
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

I’m sure that set-up was good for morale. “Here’s some armor for you, gunner . . . yeah, driver . . . about that . . . .”


18 posted on 08/04/2013 1:19:57 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: 1rudeboy

Fur suuurrr....


19 posted on 08/04/2013 1:20:10 PM PDT by RedMonqey ("Gun-free zones" equal "Target-rich environment.")
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To: snippy_about_it; SAMWolf; alfa6; Iris7; PhilDragoo; Colonel_Flagg

Hi Folks!

An ultra-rare bicyclespankentruppen ping to ya! Mit original intent even.


20 posted on 08/04/2013 1:21:06 PM PDT by Professional Engineer (I am not cynical. /s)
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To: Professional Engineer

Bicyclespankentruppen and motorcyclespakentruppen twofer! Sweet!


21 posted on 08/04/2013 1:28:45 PM PDT by snippy_about_it
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To: DogByte6RER

Neat!

I prefer something bigger though.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5H7U71KZEJw


22 posted on 08/04/2013 1:33:08 PM PDT by mountainlion (Live well for those that did not make it back.)
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To: 1rudeboy
I’m sure that set-up was good for morale

Given the churned up, cratered moonscape most WW1 battlefields were doubt these units found much use.

Even in aiding efforts to stop enemy "breakouts" these mounted machines guns would get mired up to it's axles in anything but level, hard-pack roads.

Which were rare
23 posted on 08/04/2013 1:36:27 PM PDT by RedMonqey ("Gun-free zones" equal "Target-rich environment.")
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

They did the armor all wrong. The sidecar gunner should have been laying down, not sitting up, and the sidecar wheel should have been armored instead of the huge front plate (just a little one needed in front if he was laying down).


24 posted on 08/04/2013 1:41:38 PM PDT by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: Anoreth

Motorcycle ping


25 posted on 08/04/2013 1:41:41 PM PDT by Tax-chick (Ask me about the Weiner Wager. Support Free Republic!)
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To: mountainlion
Now we know where the producers of “Mad Max” got their ideas.

“Brutus” makes “The Humongous” look like small potatoes...

26 posted on 08/04/2013 1:42:29 PM PDT by RedMonqey ("Gun-free zones" equal "Target-rich environment.")
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To: PLMerite
This looks like it might be the flip side of the setup:

The look of the horse in the background seems to be thinking:

"Don't even THINK of going there with me"
27 posted on 08/04/2013 1:45:57 PM PDT by RedMonqey ("Gun-free zones" equal "Target-rich environment.")
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To: PLMerite

Growing up as a boy in Texas, my next door neighbor regaled me with grand stories of his WW1 motorcycle exploits!

http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?gl=MIL_DRAFT&rank=1&new=1&MSAV=0&msT=1&gss=angs-g&gsfn=Doug&gsln=Corley&msdpn__ftp=TX&so=2


28 posted on 08/04/2013 1:46:26 PM PDT by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: Sasparilla
Armoured Vespa scooter with cannon Armoured Vespa scooter Then, there are always Vespa motor scooters with mounted cannons.
29 posted on 08/04/2013 1:51:53 PM PDT by DogByte6RER ("Loose lips sink ships")
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To: RedMonqey

Two bikes and a sidecar- mounted gun. I’d trade my R1200RT for that.


30 posted on 08/04/2013 1:53:47 PM PDT by Afterguard (Liberals will let you do anything you want, as long as it's mandatory.)
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To: RedMonqey
I was at a fire base once that had 4 deuce and a halfs with quad 50’s. there were maybe 20 APC’s, about that many M60 tanks, one 8” Howitzer on a track, two 155MM Howitzers, two 175 MM Howitzers, about 20 105s, 4.2” mortars, 60MM mortars, and lots of smaller stuff. Every night we had a “Mad Minute” where everyone that want to shoot or check their weapons could open fire for 60 seconds. The only thing bigger that was B52 dropping 3500 tons of 500 pounders.

I was only an Engineer with a bulldozer. I only got to shoot an M16.

31 posted on 08/04/2013 1:59:37 PM PDT by mountainlion (Live well for those that did not make it back.)
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To: Afterguard
I have some friends who are mechanics that could cobble up that for ya in trade for you BMW..

Of course it won't be authentic WW1 era Harleys.

More like two rusted motocross bikes with an apple crate attached, with an a pop gun thrown in ...

Shall I give you their number?

32 posted on 08/04/2013 2:04:00 PM PDT by RedMonqey ("Gun-free zones" equal "Target-rich environment.")
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To: mountainlion

“Mad Minute” sounds like a “real hoot”

Kinda like my younger days with my reeeeally redneck friends

Except for the part about being in an war...

Getting shot at.....

In a stinkin tropical jungle.....

(my hat off to the Vietnam vets and all vets in general)


33 posted on 08/04/2013 2:09:25 PM PDT by RedMonqey ("Gun-free zones" equal "Target-rich environment.")
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To: DogByte6RER

My guess is the rider was warned to dismount before firing the recoilless rifle. Other than that, maybe doable.


34 posted on 08/04/2013 2:11:03 PM PDT by PLMerite (Shut the Beyotch Down! Burn, baby, burn!)
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To: DogByte6RER

“The name is Bond. James Bond.”


35 posted on 08/04/2013 2:13:41 PM PDT by sphinx
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To: 1rudeboy

This was in fact a practical setup at the time.
Both the Germans and Russians used wagon mounted machineguns during the first mobile operations of WWI, and they were useful.
The Germans used them in their Cavalry Divisions in 1914, especially covering the flank of the Schleiffen maneuver, against Belgians, French Territorials, and even against the British at Le Cateau.
German mobile machinegun doctrine at the time was to use them in company-sized groups, opening massed fire at extreme range, 1000-2000 yards, against area targets, manueuvering troops, hasty defenses, especially against flanks. The wagons gave them mobility. Apparently very effective. When everyone dug in this idea had to go away.


36 posted on 08/04/2013 2:35:41 PM PDT by buwaya
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To: bgill

I’d say photog’s sleeve. Unbuttoned. Put yourself on report, soldier.


37 posted on 08/04/2013 2:36:35 PM PDT by StAntKnee (Add your own danged sarc tag)
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To: Professional Engineer

I'll take a BMW with MG-34 for my motorcyclespanken truppen.

38 posted on 08/04/2013 3:40:51 PM PDT by SAMWolf (Looking for my generations Lexington and Concord.)
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To: snippy_about_it

Hiya Snippy!


39 posted on 08/04/2013 4:40:18 PM PDT by Professional Engineer (I am not cynical. /s)
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To: SAMWolf

Nice ride Sam.


40 posted on 08/04/2013 4:42:40 PM PDT by Professional Engineer (I am not cynical. /s)
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To: Professional Engineer; SAMWolf; snippy_about_it

Thanks for the ping PE

And greetings from Kansas City to SAMWolf and snippy

YEE HAW :-)

Regards

alfa6 ;>}


41 posted on 08/04/2013 7:12:02 PM PDT by alfa6
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To: bgill

It’s definitely a drone. Those damn Germans!


42 posted on 08/04/2013 7:31:20 PM PDT by Larry381 ("Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it.")
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To: martin_fierro

‘nother hooligans ping


43 posted on 08/04/2013 8:38:51 PM PDT by Don W (Know what you WANT. Know what you NEED. Know the DIFFERENCE!)
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To: DogByte6RER
...and a modern update:

"Ms. Mini Gun America"

44 posted on 08/04/2013 8:48:39 PM PDT by castlebrew (Gun Control means hitting where you're aiming!))
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To: RedMonqey

45 posted on 08/04/2013 9:08:30 PM PDT by iowamark
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To: alfa6

Greetings from SC alpha6!


46 posted on 08/05/2013 3:49:22 AM PDT by snippy_about_it
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To: DogByte6RER

Now if Polaris started making and selling those for $19k...
I’d buy one.


47 posted on 08/05/2013 11:13:21 AM PDT by TurboZamboni (Marx smelled bad & lived with his parents most his life.)
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To: iowamark

Thanks that’s it.


48 posted on 08/06/2013 10:32:33 PM PDT by RedMonqey ("Gun-free zones" equal "Target-rich environment.")
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