Skip to comments.No Apologies for the Bomb: History easily justifies what was done in Hiroshima & Nagasaki
Posted on 08/06/2013 7:48:46 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
August 6, 2013 marks the 68th anniversary of the first use of an atomic bomb, and August 9th the last. Japan did not surrender for five days after Nagasaki was bombed, during which time the Soviet Union declared war and the Americans conducted additional, conventional firebombing raids on a Japanese city. Emperor Hirohito was asked to break a deadlock in the imperial cabinet that had blocked an unconditional surrender up to that point.
To this day, Harry Truman is viewed by ardent critics as a war criminal and the United States is deemed as being stained by a sin as indelible as slavery. In fact, last November, a "documentary" on Hiroshima and its aftermath produced by Oliver Stone was shown on television and, as might be expected, it presented the standard apologist's take on the history surrounding Truman's decision to use nuclear bombs.
To quote Stone from an interview he gave to the Stanford Daily earlier this year, his production was intended to "cause Americans to rethink your history ... because you're not the indispensable, benevolent nation that we pretend to be." He might have gotten his facts straight before making such an arrogant and ignorant comment, but as we know from his past works, facts seem to get in the way of his agenda.
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Without using the bomb, Japan would just be another Iraq and Afghanistan.
Just finished Gen Curtis LeMay’s book about the B-29s.
Screw the peacenik revisionists.
Incorrect - Oliver Stone has never let a mere fact stand in the way of his agenda. He sidesteps them or bulls them over, ignoring them completely.
You win wars by not only destroying your opponents war machine but also its will to fight. That will to fight is just not in its armies but also it population that backs that machine. Too bad we don’t have any leaders that are willing to take that will from our current enemies but wants to take that will from their own people.
My dad served with Patton’s Third Army. Upon the surrender of the Germans, he was sent back to the US for more training.
Next stop, the INVASION OF JAPAN! He was Not looking forward to it.
When word of the nukes came everyone in his army base were relieved as they knew the war was over and there would be no need for an invasion.
How many US Army personel would have to die in an invasion of Japan to make a Leftist feel good about not using the bombs?
My dad’s battalion was set to participate in the invasion of Japan. If not for the bomb, he probably would have been killed. Casualties would have been extremely high - on both sides. I doubt that I would be here today.
Yep, the peaceniks can stick it where the sun don’t shine.
the American way: we were not attempting to militarily defeat Japan, but rather, occupation and overthrow.
RE: Next stop, the INVASION OF JAPAN! He was Not looking forward to it.
It was estimated that 250,000 people died in the atomic bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki (COMBINED TOLL ).
Question: How may would have died had the war continued?
War is hell.
I notice Yahoo has made no mention of this event.
My Dad did, too, in the 26th Infantry ‘Yankee’ Division Combat Engineers, thru all of Europe and The Battle of The Bulge, where he was shot by a nazi sniper while rescuing downed American Troops. He was sent back to UK and then to US to recoup.
Any regret can easily be negated this way: Japan picked a fight with the wrong nation. Period.
My grandfather was slated to be a forward artillery spotter for the invasion. I am very sure I would not exist without the Bomb.
Approximately 16 square miles (41 km2) of the city of Tokyo ALONE were destroyed and some 100,000 people are estimated to have died in the resulting firestorm, more IMMEDIATE deaths than either of the atomic bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki.
Before he made the decision to drop the bombs he was handed a note with the expected casualties for an invasion of Japan:
The decision was good.
100% correct. A LOT more.
Many of the larger bombing raids in Germany also killed more.
I’d really hate to have been Truman.
It was the Devil’s Alternative either way. You drop the bomb, hundreds of thousands die. You do nothing, Millions die.
Estimates at the time were that Allied troops could suffer a million casualties, if we had to launch a conventional invasion of the Japanese home islands. And untold Japanese also would have died in such an invasion.
The bombings actually saved lives in the long run.
Japan isn’t mad at us, in fact they are a strong ally.
Well, as far as being a Devil’s alternative, you are missing one important point.
They started that war. Truman’s goal was to finish it.
Those bombs saved hundreds of thousands of lives on both sides. The Japanese are at fault, first for starting the war, and second, for not surrendering after the first bomb. The scientists and engineers who built the bombs are heroes. Germany and Japan wouldn’t have hesitated to use atomic bombs, and they would have developed them if the war had gone on many more years.
Some people are just too wedded to their liberal idiocy to think through things rationally.
Operations Olympic and Coronet,the invasion of the Japanese Mainland would have cost the lives of Hundreads of thousands of. American Troops and many more. Wounded.
Thank God those bombs were developed at that time and thank Boeing for. building the only plane that could have carried it,the B-29 Superfortress.
"Every act of war directed to the indiscriminate destruction of whole cities or vast areas with their inhabitants is a crime against God and man, which merits firm and unequivocal condemnation." -
Para 81, Constitution on the Church in the Modern World.
My Dad was steaming for the Japanese home islands aboard the carrier Ticonderoga. They were going to use navy personnel as infantry and he had been told he would be carrying a BAR because he was big and strong. If you remember, they expected to take a million casualties in that invasion. I likely am here and alive today BECAUSE they used the bomb. There are NO apologies in order.
Thank God for the Bomb
Correct. The official Air Force figures were 40 k dead from initial effects. 140k in Tokyo March 6 1945 firebombing. The number of dead in Hiroshima and Nagasaki keep growing. A 97 year old survivor dies of cancer and his death gets added.
I believe we would have had to fight twice in Japan, if not for the Bomb.
The first time to get rid of Tojo and Company.
The second time to stop a Communist takeover of Japan, because it would have been divided, just like Korea.
Commander Fuchida, who led the Pearl Harbor attack, later converted to Christianity and visited Tibbets. He told Tibbets he did the right thing, and that the Japanese were fanatical and an invasion would have cost millions of lives.
And part of Just War doctrine.
I interviewed a guy who was a Higgins boat driver in the Pacific in 1945 and was going to be taking troops to the shore of Honshu. He said when word came out on the ship about the bomb, wild cheering broke out, because those men knew they weren’t going to die in an invasion.
Having had the honor of meeting the late General Paul Tibbets, the man was a straight-up hero.
Numerous and multiple sources on the Japanese side have indicated that without the atomic weapon, they would not, and possibly could not, have stopped fighting until the country was completely conquered.
Read a book written by ???David??? McCullough on Truman. According to Truman (I do not purport this to be the exact quote):
“I made the best decision I could at the time with the information I had.”
I think there is no question that he got it right, even though he was a Democrat.
“Any regret can easily be negated this way: Japan picked a fight with the wrong nation. Period.”
I remember a Sunday dinner conversation many years ago at which my uncle, who fought in the Pacific against the Japanese, was present. One of the women at the table said something like “Wasn’t it terrible that all of those people died in the bombings in Japan?” My uncle replied, “Well, they asked for it.”
A nuclear bomb is NOT the end of the world. The bombs SAVED something like 8,000,000 lives. It was a GOOD thing. Remember, we didn’t start that fight, but we sure finished it.
When they wrote that, the Church fathers failed to interview the priest who was my hs teacher, a US chaplain on the Bataan Death March.
Throughout military history, it seems the Romans came up with a foolproof idea:
1. Conquer your opponents.
2. Dissemble the city, stone by stone.
3. Salt the fields arounds the dissembled city.
4. Disperse the conquered survivors throughout the realm.
5. Label it, “Pax Carthagia”.
Also good to see Enola Gay fully restored at the Smithsonian Udvar-Hazy Center.
We did what needed to be done at the time. There was little choice.
Stone is clearly just another leftist mental case who can’t handle the truth.
Too bad in just a few short decades, American leadership and government have changed from honorable and respected to dishonorable and disrespected.
My Dad was in an infantry regiment on V-E Day that was ordered to withdraw 60 km westward to let the Red Army in. His unit was getting ready to ship to the Pacific when the A-bombs were dropped. For that I’m both grateful and here.
IIRC, the second-guessing about Hiroshima/Nagasaki started in 1985 on the fortieth anniversary with floating candles down the river in Hiroshima, and with scolding & finger pointing from Walter Cronkite & other libs.
Not hard to see why. The evil racist warmongering nuclear cowboy Ronald Reagan had just been reelected, and the A-bomb observance was just another way of bullyragging him & anticommunism in general.
But the Hiroshima remembrance has since taken on a life of its own, especially in Japan where it is widely believed that World War Two did not really begin until August 6, 1945.
Had there been an invasion, the number of dead Japanese civilians would have been vastly higher than the number who died at Hiroshima and Nagasaki, not to mention the vast numbers of American military men and Japanese military men who would have died.
The only argument against using the bomb would be to show that Japan could have been persuaded to surrender without it, and no one has managed to do that.
The doctrine was not arrived at by interviews.
Face this fact.
If Japan had possessed a Nuclear bomb and the ability to use it. They would have dropped it on California, or New York.
They would not have hesitated one minute.
Harry Truman -—one of history’s greatest presidents.(even if he was a Democrat)