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Local school officials learn first-hand how to handle a school shooting (IN)
Kokomo Tribune ^ | August 7, 2013 | Carson Gerber

Posted on 08/07/2013 6:03:28 PM PDT by digger48

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For your consideration.

2 things stuck out to me.

One, was the 5 minute response time. while there are a couple of local schools within city limits where 5 minute "might" be possible, this particular school is 15 minutes from town on a good day.

Second, it seems that most school shooters have no intention of being taken alive, kinda throwing a kink in the whole idea of peacably taking them alive.

1 posted on 08/07/2013 6:03:28 PM PDT by digger48
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To: digger48

If they’re not arming the teachers, then this drill is useless. If they’re doing a lockdown (organizing the mass murderer for the crazy guy), then this drill is useless.


2 posted on 08/07/2013 6:06:51 PM PDT by goodwithagun (My gun has killed fewer people than Ted Kennedy's car.)
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To: digger48

Google Maps (OK I know they are considered libs) says Northwestern HS is 6 miles from downtown Kokomo.


3 posted on 08/07/2013 6:07:36 PM PDT by nascarnation (Baraq's economic policy: trickle up poverty)
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I know exactly where it is.

many miles of city streets and county roads for the local SWAT team to travel


4 posted on 08/07/2013 6:12:17 PM PDT by digger48
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To: goodwithagun

it seems as though they are trying to steer schools away from the run-and-hide.

In IN, it has long been legal for an administrator to have a firearm on campus


5 posted on 08/07/2013 6:14:52 PM PDT by digger48
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Had a student kill our principal in the parking lot before school thirty years ago. He went into the office and turned himself in. Have often wondered what if he had continued to shoot


6 posted on 08/07/2013 6:17:34 PM PDT by hoosiermama (Obama: "Born in Kenya" Lying now or then)
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To: nascarnation

That made me curious, so I looked.

On Google Maps, its 11-13 minutes from the County Sheriffs office to the school.

Taking in time for the cal, the dispatch, the reaction time, the drive, the set-up.....20-25 minutes would not be unrealistic.

Now, my local school of 400 students, is about 10 miles farther than that.


7 posted on 08/07/2013 6:21:49 PM PDT by digger48
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You know the swat team would be driving > 100mph
just because they could, LOL


8 posted on 08/07/2013 6:23:25 PM PDT by nascarnation (Baraq's economic policy: trickle up poverty)
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To: digger48
How much for bullet-resistant doors on classrooms?

Maybe it's time to build our schools like castles, with their own armed guards.

9 posted on 08/07/2013 6:31:03 PM PDT by Dogbert41 (Thy Kingdom come!)
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as long as we aren’t locking up the kids with those people who work in them


10 posted on 08/07/2013 6:33:41 PM PDT by GeronL
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To: goodwithagun

A few well armed teachers with a practiced plan, would make quick work of one or maybe a couple of shooters.

I think back to my Nuke plant days and the drills that the security team would do. They felt that a small team would be able to hold off a big squad of attackers because they knew the place so well and where to hide out.... yeah, they were mostly ex-military, but so are a lot of our teachers.

Arm them and let them establish a plan of defense against one to many attackers. The Belsan situation gives me nightmares.


11 posted on 08/07/2013 6:37:32 PM PDT by FreeAtlanta (sue the DNC for the IRS abuse! Can RICO laws be used against the DNC?)
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To: nascarnation
You know the swat team would be driving > 100mph just because they could

An attack in the morning may coincide with rush hour traffic. It would be a challenge for a land vehicle to get anywhere fast. A helicopter becomes a much better choice.

A five minute response time is possible only if you count a few Sheriff's deputies who will arrive but wouldn't be able to do much. An active shooter in an average school building may require twenty or thirty LEOs to secure. Some would be outside, forming the perimeter; other go inside in pairs and check every room and every broom closet. If students are present, there will be hundreds of them; that will be a distraction too, and the shooter may be hiding among them.

12 posted on 08/07/2013 6:42:27 PM PDT by Greysard
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You are absolutely correct! Once it’s known that teachers can be armed, these school shootings will stop immediately.


13 posted on 08/07/2013 6:43:22 PM PDT by basil (2ASisters.org)
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You know the swat team would be driving > 100mph just because they could, LOL

To be honest, I can't even say for sure that Howard County even HAS a SWAT team.

14 posted on 08/07/2013 6:50:05 PM PDT by digger48
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I saw the pictures and shook my head.

So the cops are trying portray that they will go in under 5 minutes with pistols against an unknown suspect that could be wearing armor and armed with an AR or AK. That would likely get the cops all killed. I don’t think so.

Here in Noblesville, I think our closest SWAT is in Carmel.


15 posted on 08/07/2013 7:07:08 PM PDT by Azeem (There are four boxes to be used in the defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury and ammo.)
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To: digger48

Lockdown in any emergency should be practiced, like we practice the bomb drills back in the 60s. But the teachers that are licensed to carry, let them do it! The life they save could be the one you love most.


16 posted on 08/07/2013 7:20:42 PM PDT by PistolPaknMama
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To: Azeem

Fishers has quite the team.

I recently talked to the man who builds their rifles and tweaks their sidearms.

Hamilton County also just bought 75 blacked-out GM SUVS from a local dealership. Really eerie seeing them lined up in the lot.

Forget the Black Helicopters, look out for the Black SUVs coming down your street!


17 posted on 08/07/2013 7:32:04 PM PDT by digger48
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If they don’t arm the teachers and train them to use the weapon, then all they are doing is teaching them that within 15 minutes they will have wet themselves and will probably be dead.


18 posted on 08/07/2013 7:32:11 PM PDT by RetiredTexasVet (The only growth industries left under Progressives are government and poverty.)
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“Hamilton County also just bought 75 blacked-out GM SUVS from a local dealership”

Must be hellacious disturbances at Geist this summer. Is the local talent from downtown crossing the Marion county line?


19 posted on 08/07/2013 8:13:39 PM PDT by Artie (We are surrounded by MORONS)
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Kinda makes me wonder.

None of the traffic cops use these type of vehicles. Those are now purchashed to “blend in” with the other vehicles on the road.

Most recently, they bragged about using white F-150 pick-ups that look like construction fleet vehicles to patrol work zones.

Black SUVs sound more like Homeland Security


20 posted on 08/07/2013 8:21:59 PM PDT by digger48
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