Posted on 08/07/2013 6:03:28 PM PDT by digger48
2 things stuck out to me.
One, was the 5 minute response time. while there are a couple of local schools within city limits where 5 minute "might" be possible, this particular school is 15 minutes from town on a good day.
Second, it seems that most school shooters have no intention of being taken alive, kinda throwing a kink in the whole idea of peacably taking them alive.
If they’re not arming the teachers, then this drill is useless. If they’re doing a lockdown (organizing the mass murderer for the crazy guy), then this drill is useless.
Google Maps (OK I know they are considered libs) says Northwestern HS is 6 miles from downtown Kokomo.
I know exactly where it is.
many miles of city streets and county roads for the local SWAT team to travel
it seems as though they are trying to steer schools away from the run-and-hide.
In IN, it has long been legal for an administrator to have a firearm on campus
Had a student kill our principal in the parking lot before school thirty years ago. He went into the office and turned himself in. Have often wondered what if he had continued to shoot
That made me curious, so I looked.
On Google Maps, its 11-13 minutes from the County Sheriffs office to the school.
Taking in time for the cal, the dispatch, the reaction time, the drive, the set-up.....20-25 minutes would not be unrealistic.
Now, my local school of 400 students, is about 10 miles farther than that.
You know the swat team would be driving > 100mph
just because they could, LOL
Maybe it's time to build our schools like castles, with their own armed guards.
as long as we aren’t locking up the kids with those people who work in them
A few well armed teachers with a practiced plan, would make quick work of one or maybe a couple of shooters.
I think back to my Nuke plant days and the drills that the security team would do. They felt that a small team would be able to hold off a big squad of attackers because they knew the place so well and where to hide out.... yeah, they were mostly ex-military, but so are a lot of our teachers.
Arm them and let them establish a plan of defense against one to many attackers. The Belsan situation gives me nightmares.
An attack in the morning may coincide with rush hour traffic. It would be a challenge for a land vehicle to get anywhere fast. A helicopter becomes a much better choice.
A five minute response time is possible only if you count a few Sheriff's deputies who will arrive but wouldn't be able to do much. An active shooter in an average school building may require twenty or thirty LEOs to secure. Some would be outside, forming the perimeter; other go inside in pairs and check every room and every broom closet. If students are present, there will be hundreds of them; that will be a distraction too, and the shooter may be hiding among them.
You are absolutely correct! Once it’s known that teachers can be armed, these school shootings will stop immediately.
To be honest, I can't even say for sure that Howard County even HAS a SWAT team.
I saw the pictures and shook my head.
So the cops are trying portray that they will go in under 5 minutes with pistols against an unknown suspect that could be wearing armor and armed with an AR or AK. That would likely get the cops all killed. I don’t think so.
Here in Noblesville, I think our closest SWAT is in Carmel.
Lockdown in any emergency should be practiced, like we practice the bomb drills back in the 60s. But the teachers that are licensed to carry, let them do it! The life they save could be the one you love most.
Fishers has quite the team.
I recently talked to the man who builds their rifles and tweaks their sidearms.
Hamilton County also just bought 75 blacked-out GM SUVS from a local dealership. Really eerie seeing them lined up in the lot.
Forget the Black Helicopters, look out for the Black SUVs coming down your street!
If they don’t arm the teachers and train them to use the weapon, then all they are doing is teaching them that within 15 minutes they will have wet themselves and will probably be dead.
“Hamilton County also just bought 75 blacked-out GM SUVS from a local dealership”
Must be hellacious disturbances at Geist this summer. Is the local talent from downtown crossing the Marion county line?
Kinda makes me wonder.
None of the traffic cops use these type of vehicles. Those are now purchashed to “blend in” with the other vehicles on the road.
Most recently, they bragged about using white F-150 pick-ups that look like construction fleet vehicles to patrol work zones.
Black SUVs sound more like Homeland Security
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