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Destroying Football: The Left's Endgame
AT ^ | 8-9-13 | Timothy Birdnow

Posted on 08/09/2013 4:55:05 AM PDT by Dysart

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To: NRA1995
So what are they doing about gang-bangers, drive-by shooters, "flash" mobs, black-on-black murde, black-on-white murder, etc, etc? NOTHING!

Gang-bangers are comprising more and more of college football and NFL rosters....see Aaron Hernandez.

41 posted on 08/09/2013 6:40:28 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Durus
Your assertion is "damaged". First of all, people have the right to "dedicate" as much time as they want watching sports, regardless of your elitist proclamation that they should spend their time "off the couch."

Secondly, the equipment, training, and medical treatments for these players is exponentially better than it was 30 years ago... an accidental coincidence? Or is it more likely that the "marketplace" (or league) sought to improve player conditions and safety. No liberals, no government edict, no liberal pansies were required to make those improvements.

42 posted on 08/09/2013 6:56:26 AM PDT by Common Sense 101 (Hey libs... If your theories fly in the face of reality, it's not reality that's wrong.)
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To: Dysart
The people who are & will continue to be the most effective in changing football will be ex-players & doctors. Not lefties.

Not everything is a left-wing conspiracy.

43 posted on 08/09/2013 7:05:51 AM PDT by gdani
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To: Common Sense 101
I never suggested that people don't have the right to watch sports, or reality TV, or Sitcoms, or whatever it they waste their lives doing. People have the right to do all kinds of stupid things. I didn't even say that people should spend their time off the couch as a general statement, what I said was rather than complain about the entertainment value of a sport they should go play it themselves any way they want to play it.

We have allowed government (liberals, government edict, and liberal pansies) into every facet of our lives but only when someone dares mess with the most precious of all American institutions do people wake up and realize this? Cry me a river. When people have gone to jail over Fast and Furious, IRS-Gate, Benghazi, and Treason for arming Syrian based Al Qaeda, then we can talk about football.

44 posted on 08/09/2013 7:12:29 AM PDT by Durus (You can avoid reality, but you cannot avoid the consequences of avoiding reality. Ayn Rand)
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To: Dysart
Here's how to improve soccer:
1. All soccer players must stop wearing cute little shorts.
Must wear protective long pants and jersey overcovering shoulder pads, knee pads, thigh pads.
2. All soccer players must wear an approved helmet with approved face guard.
3. All soccer players must start each scrimmage from a formation requiring seven men on a front line.
4. All soccer scrimmages end when a player carrying the ball is tackled. 5. All soccer scrimmage must start with a designated center snapping or hiking the ball to a backfielder.
6. Remove the goal, divide the field into 10-yard units 100 yards long, bounded by two endzones with goalposts at the end of each endzone.
7. Don't allow Brits to play in, bet on, or comment on, the games.
8. Six points are scored when an eligible ball carrier crosses the goal lines after carrying the ball into, or catching a passed ball in, the endzone goal line, such effort be called a touchdown. Additional one- or two-points may be awarded after each touch, depending on the difficulty of the effort of the extra points.
There. Fixed the game of soccer.
45 posted on 08/09/2013 7:30:40 AM PDT by righttackle44 (Take scalps. Leave the bodies as a warning.)
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To: righttackle44

This is how you “fix” soccer.

Gaelic Football
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TEAbWrdB9XU


46 posted on 08/09/2013 7:31:46 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Dysart; JimRed

“I think there are movements within movements”

The left tends to purge their ranks after they have won. Conservatives tend to purge their ranks before they can win.


47 posted on 08/09/2013 7:41:11 AM PDT by KrisKrinkle (Blessed be those who know the depth and breadth of their ignorance. Cursed be those who don't.)
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To: KrisKrinkle

Excellent analysis.


48 posted on 08/09/2013 7:46:47 AM PDT by Dysart (Control your destiny or someone else will. -- Jack Welch)
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To: Rich21IE
Its in our faces! The Evil is coming out of the shadows and openly proclaiming its presence.

I nominate this for most insightful post of the thread! This is the big picture. To bring it back to football - whatever problems it may cause, it is a uniquely American sport, and thus a manifestation of traditional American culture which the left seeks to undermine and destroy. Any culture or society has imperfections, injustices and potentially harmful traditions. The genius of the left is to put over the idea that such problems indicate a fundamental defect of the society that can only be resolved by more socialism/communism, increased regulation, and more centralized control.

49 posted on 08/09/2013 7:48:52 AM PDT by free-in-nyc (Freeping from the heart of the occupation)
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To: dforest
When it comes to football, the reason it is being destroyed is because it is uniquely American.

Indeed, it is. Not very many people outside the US appreciate or even understand the game.

50 posted on 08/09/2013 8:02:40 AM PDT by Fiji Hill
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To: Dysart
So instead of a healthy game of tackle football at recess, liberals substitute Ritalin and maybe a good heated game of tag.

I have read that tag has been banned at some schools for being too violent.

51 posted on 08/09/2013 8:05:36 AM PDT by Fiji Hill
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To: Common Sense 101; Durus

Common Sense, I had to laugh as I saw your screen name. You might consider changing it with the number of ad hominem attacks and leaps of logic you make with Durus’ and my posts.

Also, your point about better equipment, training, and treatment brings in the law of unintended consequences. There is a fundamental flaw in the changes in football that players, organizations and fans need to be aware of. The increased safety equipment makes it more likely there will be some long-term injuries.

I should also say that with high school sports the trend is not toward fewer injuries, but more. Years ago, teenagers worked more dangerous jobs, were less supervised, and had less equipment. Yet today, the number of teens I see with fractures and having joint surgeries is going up.

Now before you make another leap of logic and say I am advocating a nanny state solution, notice I am only describing the reality, not proposing a solution. I believe in informed consent and following through on contracts and insurance commitments. That is a conservative view. I am not advocating anything beyond that.


52 posted on 08/09/2013 8:05:55 AM PDT by mongrel
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To: Dysart

Football keeps getting bigger and bigger. This is partially because of the amazing growth among female fans. If this is the libs’ goal, they’re doing a terrible job at it.

Me, I seldom watch an NFL game. I prefer baseball and take the other six months off from sports.

I do think this article overstates things, though.


53 posted on 08/09/2013 8:06:09 AM PDT by Ted Grant
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To: dforest

America’s cold civil war has two sides: the city slicker leftists vs. the suburbanite conservatives. Football is a warfare themed suburbanite sport. People that grow up in a city tend to be much shorter and smaller than those that grow up in the suburbs or beyond. The left fears football because it trains their opposition for battle, and not just the soldiers but more importantly the civilian spectators that fund the battle. If the civil war ever goes hot, the leftist city slickers will lose.


54 posted on 08/09/2013 8:06:22 AM PDT by Reeses
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To: mongrel
Yet today, the number of teens I see with fractures and having joint surgeries is going up.

Is that because of football, or because more youth are eschewing football in favor of "extreme" sports, like skateboarding?

55 posted on 08/09/2013 8:08:19 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: headstamp 2
Yes, like fans murdering each other in the stands, killing players, refs, etc.

But that's the most exciting part of a soccer game.

56 posted on 08/09/2013 8:12:21 AM PDT by Fiji Hill
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To: Fiji Hill
Not very many people outside the US appreciate or even understand the game.

Two reasons:

1) It is unnecessarily complicated to those with no football knowledge. The "tuck" rule, safeties, pass interference penalties when a player is looking back at the ball vs. when he is not, onside kicks, illegal motion penalties, etc, etc, etc.

2) It can be pretty boring to watch for those used to sports like soccer or hockey. Hike the ball, run a 5-8 second play, play stops for 45 seconds-minute, repeat. Add in penalties, time outs, TV time outs & a 3 hour football game only has about 15 minutes of actual action (*yawn!*)

(I say this as someone who has always loved & will continue to watch football).

57 posted on 08/09/2013 8:16:31 AM PDT by gdani
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To: gdani
It can be pretty boring to watch for those used to sports like soccer or hockey

I find soccer and hockey to be boring. Sure, there's a lot of moving around, but hardly any scoring--zero-zero ties are not uncommon in soccer.

58 posted on 08/09/2013 8:20:30 AM PDT by Fiji Hill
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To: dfwgator

It’s kids that are in the regular sports: baseball, basketball, volleyball, and football. Because of changes in the rules, they are playing non-stop year-round, and it becomes too much for their young bodies. In addition, the intensity of play and weight training has been ramped up significantly. The result is bigger, faster, stronger young athletes with bones and tendons that can’t keep up.

I had an athletic director at a university tell me they are seeing an increasing number of recruits who simply cannot play in college because their bodies are worn out from constant physical stress. In addition, I am seeing an increasing number of talented athletes who are dropping out of sports while in high school because it’s simply too much and not worth doing any more. We are asking kids in music and athletics to sacrifice their bodies and time in ways that most adults would refuse to do.

How many of you would work in jobs that required you to work 24 hour days, never travel except during a set two-week period once a year, demand full physical exertion for extended periods of time, and regularly yell at you and humiliate you in front of thousands of people. This all happens in high school sports.

There are some good coaches out there, but there are also too many bullies that are stroking their own egos rather than trying to help build strong young men and women.


59 posted on 08/09/2013 8:22:47 AM PDT by mongrel
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To: Dysart
Consider the war against dodgeball. Progressives fret that it is traumatizing children and have been systematically banning the game. Why? Nobody ever gets hurt from dodgeball...

Nailing someone good with a ball -- wasn't that the whole point of dodgeball?? Lol -- it was like a firing squad. BUT, good for growing a set, which was the whole point of the exercise.

60 posted on 08/09/2013 8:26:25 AM PDT by USS Johnston (All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing. ~ Edmund Burke)
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