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Autism breakthrough as 'genetic signature' in babies as young as a year found...
news.com.au ^ | staff

Posted on 08/11/2013 7:39:08 PM PDT by Morgana

FULL TITLE: Autism breakthrough as 'genetic signature' in babies as young as a year found; blood test in the works

A GENETIC "signature" of autism in babies as young as 12 months has been identified for the first time, an international conference is to be told.

A simple blood test is now being developed and may be available in one to two years, Professor Eric Courchesne will tell the Asia Pacific Autism conference in Adelaide today.

"This discovery really changes the landscape of our understanding of causes and effective treatments," says the director of the Autism Centre of Excellence at the University of California in San Diego.

"This is going to lead to much better treatments at a much earlier stage and a large percentage of children having an excellent outcome."

He said the several gene networks that are a common thread in autism have been identified for the first time.

"During the fourth, fifth and sixth months of pregnancy, they disrupt the production of brain cells, producing too many or in some cases too few, and how the cells are organised and connected," he said.

(Excerpt) Read more at news.com.au ...


TOPICS: Health/Medicine
KEYWORDS: autism; babies; genetic; genetics; prolife

1 posted on 08/11/2013 7:39:08 PM PDT by Morgana
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To: Morgana

Fourth month of pregnancy. Sounds like a prenatal test is in the works too.


2 posted on 08/11/2013 7:40:57 PM PDT by Black Agnes
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To: Black Agnes

Oh you know there’s a prenatal test in the works. If they can’t cure it en utero then the solution will be _______.


3 posted on 08/11/2013 7:43:51 PM PDT by Morgana (Always a bit of truth in dark humor.)
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To: Morgana

Exactly what I was thinking.


4 posted on 08/11/2013 7:47:57 PM PDT by Black Agnes
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To: Morgana

I grew up in the 50’s and 60’s. I don’t recall any of the kids in any of my classes having autism.

Does anyone?


5 posted on 08/11/2013 7:55:00 PM PDT by bimboeruption (Clinging to my Bible and my HK.)
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To: bimboeruption

Maybe they were in special schools or institutionalized. I was in elementary school in the 60’s and don’t remember any autistic kids, either.


6 posted on 08/11/2013 8:02:53 PM PDT by cantfindagoodscreenname (I really hate not knowing what was said in the deleted posts....)
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To: bimboeruption

I knew two kids with autism in the 60s.


7 posted on 08/11/2013 8:05:18 PM PDT by Kirkwood (Zombie Hunter)
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To: bimboeruption

I taught 1st grade for 2 years in the mid-fifties and autism was unheard of.

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8 posted on 08/11/2013 8:05:55 PM PDT by Mears
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To: bimboeruption

I grew up in the 50’s and 60’s. I don’t recall any of the kids in any of my classes having autism..”

I’m a bit older than you but we didn’t have autism, ADD or ADHD back then. My kids were both born in the 60’s - none of their friends suffered from autism, ADD or ADHD then either. I do recall the school principal saying that the little boys in my son’s first grade class were “the orneriest bunch of boys he’d ever had in that school” but they were all boy and just not ready to sit down and be quiet all day. They changed the teacher from a young single gal to an older grandmother type later in the year and that helped some.

IMO, many little boys just are not ready for all that structure at age six. I also think that all those meds benefit the teachers, not the children.

The first time I recall ever hearing any of these terms mentioned was in the late 1990’s or early 2000’s. Either these kids were suddenly being labeled or something else drastically changed, including the kind of teachers being hired, a redefinition of parent’s responsibilities, change in what was in their food, ....???


9 posted on 08/11/2013 8:06:27 PM PDT by Grams A (The Sun will rise in the East in the morning and God is still on his throne.)
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To: bimboeruption

They were not in your classes. They’ve always been around.


10 posted on 08/11/2013 8:07:07 PM PDT by FreedomStar3028
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To: bimboeruption
I grew up in the 50’s and 60’s. I don’t recall any of the kids in any of my classes having autism.

Does anyone?

There were undoubtedly a few. Its just that they were probably completely ignored and rejected by their peers with no understanding how or why they were that way.

Think perhaps of a few people who might have done well in school and might have even gone on to support themselves with a job but were never able to find any friends.

The mental disorders are often the invisible disabilities. There is frequently no outwards appearance, and the challenges these people face are readily dismissed by the masses as a defect in morals.

11 posted on 08/11/2013 8:18:41 PM PDT by ClaytonP
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To: bimboeruption

Exactly. It was virtually unknown. I do remember a few families where there was a child with Down’s Syndrome. There is a book about autism that was written in the 1950s that effectively disproves the genetic theory. I recommend it, a fascinating book: “Pathways to Madness”, by Jules Henry.


12 posted on 08/11/2013 8:19:27 PM PDT by kabumpo (Kabumpo)
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To: Morgana
“Oh you know there’s a prenatal test in the works. If they can’t cure it en utero then the solution will be _______.”

There is no way to operate on the brain in Vitro, so yes, abortion will be what happens. Also, there is no way to operate on a brain network after birth and re-wire it.

What they are saying is, if the baby is born, they will know to start remediation soon, rather than the way it is now, when the child could be undiagnosed for years.

The psychological guidelines for autism used to have strict parameters. In my many years of psychologically testing children, I only tested two that I diagnosed as having Autism. These days, it is a loose bag of symptoms.

13 posted on 08/11/2013 8:22:30 PM PDT by Marcella ((Prepping can save your life today. I am a Christian, not a Muslim.))
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To: Black Agnes

and sadly a reason for some to abort when they get the news.


14 posted on 08/11/2013 8:29:55 PM PDT by cableguymn (The founding fathers would be shooting by now..)
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To: bimboeruption

No-—even in the 70’s-—The epidemic started when I had my children in the 80’s—and I had never heard about it-—and knew people teaching for decades who didn’t hear of it. I was into child development and my sister is a nurse.

It is a toxin—probably from vaccines——they upped the number of vaccines in the 80’s and reduced the ages-—and massively inject newborns, now with insane cr(p-—like Hep B .

All vaccines have known toxins and babies have no ability of excreting toxins from the brain. That is fact-—all toxins go directly to the brain to kill cells.

Boys are 3 times as likely to get Autism-—same as for Mercury poisoning-—boys are more succeptible because of testosterone reactions to toxins.

This is nothing but the power of the State to monitor the brains of your children-—and destroy them. Think of their ability to “label” your children even more so than they do in public schools today-—and at BIRTH. Evil and insidious. They made up Dyslexia (Blumenfeld) when John Dewey destroyed our education system and all of a sudden the literacy rate plummeted. They wanted to put blame on parents and deflect it from the true cause-—public schools. That was in the 30’s-—it is way more Marxist now.

Corporations have controlled our govt. for more than 80 years and “education” and all media/books/curricula since the early 1900’s is to control perceptions of the masses. They Lie. It is proven over and over. The Corporations/Government want billions dead and not reproducing-—never trust them.

JS Mill predicted this-—Government will destroy Freedom and kill its own populace——it is the nature of government which is always an evil.


15 posted on 08/11/2013 8:35:26 PM PDT by savagesusie (Right Reason According to Nature = Just Law)
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To: FreedomStar3028

And what about the severe autistics that still wear diapers at 12, have never spoken a word or made eye contact?

Remember classes with them?


16 posted on 08/11/2013 8:41:59 PM PDT by Black Agnes
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To: bimboeruption

I never knew of any such thing in the ‘80s.

My mother was SpecEd teacher, very good. When she went for Masters in the ‘70s she said they hardly touched on autism.

As with everything, we believe autism is being expanded (spectrum!) to include everyone so we all have some disease or condition. And schools have a SpecEd cash cow.


17 posted on 08/11/2013 8:42:19 PM PDT by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Technological progress cannot be legislated.)
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To: FreedomStar3028; bimboeruption
They were not in your classes. They’ve always been around.

You are correct.

I know a family where one of their several children was institutionalized after mental health workers said that the child would possibly be a bad influence on the siblings.

The child was about ten years old at the time the (appx 1965). Once in an institution the child picked up behaviors from the other residents as autistic children tend to do, thus complicating a diagnosis and bringing about a pharmaceutical attempt at a cure. When the movement away from large institutions came about there was an opportunity to treat the (now adult) person outside of the influences of an institution and it was determined that the only appropriate diagnosis was autism. The person is doing well in a group home setting now and works at a paying job.

My point in telling this is that even though autism was discovered earlier, there was not a quick acceptance of the condition and certainly no uniformity in treatments. Many children were routinely sent to institutions and were not part of the student body. They weren't included because it was thought that their condition might rub off on the 'regular' kids.

18 posted on 08/11/2013 8:53:01 PM PDT by whodathunkit (DOJ + NSA + IRS = DNI)
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To: bimboeruption
I grew up in the 50’s and 60’s. I don’t recall any of the kids in any of my classes having autism.

Yes, there was a boy in my elementary school who had exhibited several of the symptoms. He was very odd, but functioned well enough to be kept with other kids.

I was lucky enough to go to a very nice suburban elementary school. If he had been at a more typical school, he would have been bullied I'm certain.

19 posted on 08/11/2013 8:53:04 PM PDT by Steely Tom (If the Constitution can be a living document, I guess a corporation can be a person.)
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To: bimboeruption

Do you remember any kids who seemed out of sync with the social side of things? Maybe someone who could get good grades but couldn’t pick up on non-verbal cues? Anyone who seemed unusually sensitive to noise, touch, or chaos? “Autism” covers a pretty broad spectrum. I’m pretty sure that if my family were tested, at least half would have it in some form, all the way back to my grandfather.

Including me.


20 posted on 08/11/2013 9:13:58 PM PDT by Ellendra ("Laws were most numerous when the Commonwealth was most corrupt." -Tacitus)
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To: savagesusie
The epidemic started when I had my children in the 80’s

Aspartame was approved in 1981....

21 posted on 08/11/2013 9:42:10 PM PDT by null and void (Frequent terrorist attacks OR endless government snooping and oppression? Soon we'll have both!)
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To: Ellendra

It’s probably epigenetic.


22 posted on 08/11/2013 9:51:19 PM PDT by Black Agnes
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To: Morgana

There must have been some awareness of autism in the 50s, because there was an Elvis movie, with Mary Tyler Moore, I think, where Elvis was a doctor and MTM was a nun and there was an autistic little girl who was one of Elvis’ patients.


23 posted on 08/11/2013 9:51:58 PM PDT by married21
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To: bimboeruption

There were certainly some who today would be diagnosed as ‘on the spectrum’. That is, awkward and socially inept. But autism was both only an extreme diagnosis and very rare.


24 posted on 08/11/2013 10:00:46 PM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: null and void

no doubt-—and corn syrup is put into everything-—and wireless.....it is overload.


25 posted on 08/11/2013 10:46:28 PM PDT by savagesusie (Right Reason According to Nature = Just Law)
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To: bimboeruption

I grew up in the 50’s and 60’s. I don’t recall any of the kids in any of my classes having autism.

Does anyone?

UFO abductions started after that time period and autism rates skyrocketed, coincidence????

Just kidding, or am I?


26 posted on 08/11/2013 11:04:53 PM PDT by GraceG
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To: Ellendra

You are talking about normal anti-social qualities-—which are because of environments/habituation.

You can tell the difference with neuron damage-—it is more like mercury poisoning-—much more than just “odd” behavior—abnormal brain/movements.

Socially backward parents will model that behavior to their children and children will copy it.

It is dangerous when corporations/schools make billions off of abnormal kids and vaccines/pills. They have started drugging millions of boys-—who were like Einstein/Edison/Mark Twain who were bored in schools——why put toxins in kids—when you don’t even understand the effects of psychotrophic drugs-—but understand they create Kip Kinkles and Adam Lanzas and the Columbine kids.

All of a sudden we need to “medicate” little kids (insanity and evil)-—50 years ago that would NOT have been allowed-—it would have been seen for the evil that it is.


27 posted on 08/11/2013 11:05:17 PM PDT by savagesusie (Right Reason According to Nature = Just Law)
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To: Ellendra

I suffered from being self conscious and shy in school. Was given derisive looks by the popular kids at times and the other half seemingly invisible. Picked last for gym teams, unless it was my best friend choosing, that wonderful stocky-built girl with the Mohawk and kind, accepting nature. I remember my own mother fighting with me in my bedroom when I was 6 years old, at one point pulling my hair, to make me go out and talk to the girl down the block that had come calling. Guess she didn’t understand I wasnt in the mood to play with the girl after her sister accused me of “Pushing” her when we were skipping down the sidewalk and she fell and busted her chin a bit. I thought I was just “shy always heard that word from family. But after having come across this word Aspergers and read up on it I’m convinced I probably have it.


28 posted on 08/11/2013 11:38:05 PM PDT by kelly4c (http://www.freerepublic.com/perl/post?id=2900389%2C41#help)
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To: bimboeruption

I have 2 heart conditions that were only “discovered” in the last 10-20 years. Does that mean that no one had it before, no, it means they didn’t know what to call it and many people were told that they were crazy for not feeling well most of the time....

Also, I grew up in the 70’s and know of at least one person that had autism. Most kids were put in special ed or special schools so they wouldn’t be in regular classrooms anyway. As kids we wouldn’t have been aware of “special” kids for the most part....


29 posted on 08/12/2013 12:19:48 AM PDT by mrsadams
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To: bimboeruption

>> Does anyone?

Nope.


30 posted on 08/12/2013 2:47:40 AM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: bimboeruption
I grew up in the same time frame. I believe that in today's sytem I would be diagnosed with some form of ADDS and they would want to drug me to the max.

I was forced to deal with it and learn awareness and control - turned out to be one of those folks who maintained a 4.0 in college with a minimum of studying. Still can't focus on anything long enough to develop a real avocation, but I can get along in society and earn my own way.

I am a bit introverted and prefer to deal on a cerebral level vs. emotionally - hence the hanging around FR since shortly after 9/11. I've been aware of this for a few decades but this is the first I considered it as being tied to the other "issues".

31 posted on 08/12/2013 3:17:39 AM PDT by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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To: Grams A

Structure starts in the home first and foremost, if a child is never taught to sit still they have a hard time having to do it in school. This goes for girls as well as boys.

Like every one else only case of a lingering illness was a Polio case in HS.

Did not start seeing any ADD and such until my own kids hit school age. getting a label on a kid gets the school more money.


32 posted on 08/12/2013 5:54:41 AM PDT by GailA (THOSE WHO DON'T KEEP PROMISES TO THE MILITARY, WON'T KEEP THEM TO U!)
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To: kabumpo

The book did not disprove genetic theory. It explored social interaction and behavioral conditioning and its effects on mental illness and published in the mid 60’s.


33 posted on 08/12/2013 6:11:30 AM PDT by Fuzz
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To: Fuzz

Did you read the book? By demonstrating that autism is the result of faulty familial communication, the book decimated the genetic theory.


34 posted on 08/12/2013 7:21:39 AM PDT by kabumpo (Kabumpo)
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To: kabumpo

Finding a correlation between behavior and an affliction doesn’t disprove other possible contributing factors, it only proves, should the research be repeatedly testable and duplicated, that a behavioral component exists.


35 posted on 08/12/2013 7:34:47 AM PDT by Fuzz
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To: GailA

I had forgotten all about polio. Remember when I was small my mom took me to the hospital to see someone who was in an iron lung. Long time ago and it was a scary illness.

Kids today get so many more vaccinations beginning when they are quite young than my kiddos had. Have often wondered how much the introduction of who knows what into their bodies contributes to these issues.

I agree structure has to start in the home. I would suspect that most families no longer all even sit down together for breakfast and dinner. This is a great forum to talk about manners and behaving, particularly if it starts off with a prayer of thanks.


36 posted on 08/12/2013 8:31:20 AM PDT by Grams A (The Sun will rise in the East in the morning and God is still on his throne.)
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To: bimboeruption

Back in the 60s kids with autism were usually called retarded and were put away institutions. Dr. Temple Grandin was diagnosed with autism in 1949. Luckily for her, her parents were rich and her mother fought until she found knowledgeable doctors was able to send her to a boarding school that specialized in autistic and other mental issues. The time she spent in public schools up until that point were nightmarish. The other kids either tormented her or ignored her.


37 posted on 08/12/2013 1:17:36 PM PDT by stellaluna
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