Posted on 08/12/2013 10:12:25 AM PDT by massmike
Time – The Overpriced News Brochure ($4.99 for 60 pages) - had an intense erotic experience with the cover story in its August 12th issue, "The Childfree Life: When having it all means not having children." Please note the choice of words – not childless but childfree, like cancer-free, as if children are a life-threatening disease, which is pretty much the way the contraceptive left views them.
The organ of elite opinion begins by telling us that today "one in five American women will end their child-bearing years maternity-free, compared to 1 in 10 in the 1970s." In this and other statistics cited, Time hears the joyous tread of progress.
For a glimpse of our future, see Europe and Japan.
When I was in Brussels a few years ago, the only women in the city center pushing strollers with more than one child wore head scarves – the fashion future of Europe. Sir Jonathan Sacks, chief rabbi of Britain, warns: "Europe is dying. We are undergoing the moral equivalent of climate change and no one is talking about it."
Last year, the Japanese bought more adult diapers than baby diapers. In 1990, there were more Japanese over 65 than under 15. By 2050, Japan will have more citizens over 80 than under 15. In 1989, those over 60 were 11.6% of Japan's total population. By 2011, they were 21.2%. Can Time's writers even begin to comprehend what this means for a country, a society, a civilization?
As a solution, the left offers the rationing of medical care, death panels and euthanasia. Or, as Japan's Finance Minister, Taro Aso, put it earlier this year, the elderly should "hurry up and die." Over time, the definition of elderly will expand.
(Excerpt) Read more at grasstopsusa.com ...
I have one child. My fiancee doesn’t want to bring more kids into this world while foster kids legally free for adoption languish, so that is what we are pursuing.
When I die I will surrounded by family, and I pity the childless people, who will die alone and lonely.
Children are not easy. But they’re worth it.
Ou daughter and son in law just had their first baby, a daughter, our first grandchild. She was born June 6th and is an absolutely precious 2+ months old. I feel very sorry for the parents of the “childfree” couples who will not be grandparents. To not have grandchildren in your life and try to fill it up with just golf, travel, etc. seems very empty and sad.
Latest edition of my local Communist business paper contains article about two-income couples living in McMansions with two pricey SUV’s in the driveway whining about “the high cost of child care” and that being the reason they only have 1 or 2 children.
Humans will no doubt be the first species to outsmart itself out of existence.
Want children? Have some. Don’t want them, don’t have them. Moving on.
People have lost sight of the importance of building a family, the notion of family as being something you build as a living breathing legacy.
The contraceptive right views them the same way.
I don't have the energy to worry about whether other people have children, but I sure get tired of the idea that every woman is fundamentally wrong from the moment of conception because she's capable of having children.
So, Mrs WBill stays home with the kids. By doing that, she saves more than she could earn in a "needs-fulfilling, feminist-approved job in the everyday workforce".
She has more fun, too. She's headed to an amusement park with the kids, today.
No word from the feminists on that. They likely wouldn't approve.
exactly...Freedom from children guarantees you will rot someday in a nursing home and nobody will care or visit you.
The woman in the TIME article admitted to at least 4 abortions. That puts her in the Sandra Fluke category in my book.
Children are not easy. But they’re worth it.
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My experience has told me the following:
Those who choose to be childless have made the right choice.
Ping for your interest Megan aren’t you glad you started having kids early?
and if they commit abortion over and over in the process?
If the people with the greatest access to resources feel that child rearing is too heavy a lift, what does that say about our future?
I come from a big family. My mom stayed at home, and my dad never earned anything near SUV money till I was practically grown.
Children are a blessing any way you look at it, and especially if you ask The Lord!
But those who threaten future loneliness in nursing homes to the childless are missing a consistent inversion of normalcy found in the New Testament. The goal found there is deep union with God the Father in Christ, not provincial bliss. To the eunuchs He promises an inheritance greater than sons and daughters; of the rejected “others”—see Hebrews, after the hall of faith—he says “the world was not worthy of them”.
As for the assumption that children will look after their parents, did he not also promise division? I’ve seen people, good and bad, spend their last years in a nursing home, unvisited by their offspring. Guess who The Lord sent? My Grandmother, me, you.
God cares for us always, that’s why these false oppositions of married/unmarried, parent/childless are bunk. He does not treat us as our sins deserve. He is good to us because that’s the way He IS.
“For I am God, and not man”
not sure if it’s a good thing that liberals are making more liberals.
My wife & I were each only children. She suffered from MS & feared passing it on (it would later prove fatal).
We were at a church social & a mother of teenage girls asked us if we had children (we were in our mid 40’s). We said, no. What about your brothers & sisters? We’re both only children, we replied.
“How could you do this to your MOTHERS!!?” she hissed, and
stormed off.
and if they commit abortion over and over in the process?
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Funny, how in God’s name would I know if and how many abortions someone has had? I don’t ask, in just the same way I don’t ask (out of the blue) if someone is a cancer survivor.
Try to stay with me here, the folks I know who have chosen not to have children have, in my opinion only, made the right choice, because, again in my opinion only, they were not “parent material”. And there are lots and lots of factors that go into that.
You can't just leave people alone! You have to join in badgering and shaming them into living the way you want them to live!
“Ping for your interest Megan aren’t you glad you started having kids early?”
Thank you! And I am! About nine more weeks to go for #5!!! Whoo-hoo!!!
So you had kids so you could become a boat anchor around their necks in your golden years? Just damn. Not sure about you, but my plan is to cash out after about an hour of becoming a burdon to mine.
Some credence has to be given to the idea people are fearful of creating large families in an American society that has lost its way, and is dying economically, socially and morally.
..Typifying the idiocy of the ignorant. Every person's situation is different. Not everyone is parent material.
I have several neighbors within a block of me who have more pets than kids. Some have four or five animals and no kids. Now, I like dogs and cats, but there seem to be quite a lot of people who say they can’t afford kids, yet they manage to cram themselves and the pets into rather small spaces and tight budgets. (I know because I go shopping with neighbors whenever possible, as well as running into them on walks.)
They’ll regret it later, most of them. If I could be 17 again, I’d shoot for a dozen. You can’t buy family.
Plenty of old people, mostly women, die alone in nursing homes that had been good wives and mothers. I think people should have children because they feel the urge to be parents. I don’t think people should look at children as a form of insurance for their old age. Good for you for helping foster kids. Many non-parents contribute to their families, friends and communities in ways parents have limited energy for, though, and I wouldn’t conflate non-parent with isolation or old-age loneliness.
Plenty of old people, mostly women, die alone in nursing homes that had been good wives and mothers. I think people should have children because they feel the urge to be parents. I don’t think people should look at children as a form of insurance for their old age. Good for you for helping foster kids. Many non-parents contribute to their families, friends and communities in ways parents have limited energy for, though, and I wouldn’t conflate non-parent with isolation or old-age loneliness.
“...You can’t buy family.”
So true. And it is particularly painful when one can’t have children.
I am single, never married, have two dogs and six cats.
I know my wife cared about her father in his last days and prevented a lot of abuse. Suicide is your choice if that is what you want to answer for.
I had kids so they could have a life and children and grandchildren. I doubt that devoting a few days of those lives to caring for aging parents will constitute a boat anchor and they would prefer to have been aborted instead. Posterity is how we preserve our way of life. Our birthrate is down to 1.6
and without the Hispanic bump of .5 we would lose what is left of our country pretty quickly. No country comes back from 1.6(the caucasian birthrate).
I don’t think you have a firm grasp on the situation some people are confronted with. Take for instance a family with a history of dementia past age 70. I have my hang-ups, but I have firm control of my faculties. I also have knowledge and skills that fall somewhere between MacGuyver and Ferris Bueller. I’ll trust your imagination to fill in the blanks about what happens when dementia sets in with that skill set. If you want to sign up your kids to babysit you in that situation, knock yourself out. I respect mine enough to spare them that.
Life is full of unique situations, so let’s abort all the children. Good plan.
So....we need to add tens of milions of people endlessly every decade until there’s what, several billion people in the USA like China. And then keep it up several more generations until we add another billion ?
Seems the USA did fine with under 200 million people in the late 1950s. The Swiss somehow keep a very high quality of life with little, or no population gain. Don’t buy into massive population gain as the only way to run a nation. I would not lose one bit of sleep if our population dropped some & then became somewhat steady with small gains.
It’s the kind of nation & culture you have....not just the numbers. Look around you....this nation is a “clown show” these days as opposed to the nation we once were.
Wow...we jump from terminal conditions at the end of life to aborting all unborn. You could have at least taken an intermediate step or two along the way just to paint a picture for the audience.
We are not adding. At 2.1, we are at replacement. Europe is collapsing under it’s pitiful birthrate. Islam wins when we give up on our own posterity. In the end, it is birthrate that wins the cultural game. Surrender your posterity to Islam is not a great plan in my book. Heading toward 200 million again is not an option unless you are planning a very different mix of society. We do not have the birthrate to mimic what was....once our great country. If it is a clown show now, it will be much worse if the we surrender our posterity. 1.6 will not do it.
Life is full of unique situations, so let’s abort all the children. Good plan.
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That your takeaway from Orangedog’s post is the above demonstrates a reading comprehension issue or that you suffer from reductio ad absurdum syndrome with everything absurdly reduced to abortion.
You can have your say in the end of life planning for you and yours. Feel free to leave the rest of us alone to do the same.
Sorry Orangedog, you didn’t any assist, but this comment begged for a response.
Now, I like dogs and cats, but there seem to be quite a lot of people who say they can’t afford kids, yet they manage to cram themselves and the pets into rather small spaces and tight budgets.
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OK, I know you’re not comparing the cost of raising pets to the raising of children. But that is what it sounds like.
I’ve never had more dogs than kids for the record. We found a way to have 3 of each. Of course now the kids are grown and gone and we still have 2 dogs. And always will.
There is no point in arguing exceptions. You apparently think exceptions invalidate the rule. The rule is clear. Multiply and replenish or your civilization dies. 1.6 guarantees death, no civilization comes back from a 1.6. Oh, you may get the numbers (Islam will be happy to provide the numbers) but the society will be far different.
I know it did, and I tried hard to avoid that impression. Either I posted early in the day and was short a few coffees, or late in the day and short a few beers. :D
There is no point in arguing exceptions. You apparently think exceptions invalidate the rule. The rule is clear. Multiply and replenish or your civilization dies. 1.6 guarantees death, no civilization comes back from a 1.6. Oh, you may get the numbers (Islam will be happy to provide the numbers) but the society will be far different.
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Then you were addressing an unasked and unrelated question. Orangedog was talking about a post-born human nearing the end of his/her life and doing what it takes to not be a burden on the following generation, and you were talking about abortion.
It puts your commentary into the non sequitor category.
I already posted that Orangedog could kill himself if he wanted to. But, as a Christian, I think you have to answer for it. I did not think that caring for one’s parents is some boat anchor around one’s neck as he implied. He accused me of having children so they could be saddled with my dying care, an absurd accusation. Then, he explained some exception to having kids (there are many). I did not wish to indulge the exception and tried to make the case that our way of life is endangered by a pitiful birthrate. Apparently, you do not agree. So be it.
Either I posted early in the day and was short a few coffees, or late in the day and short a few beers.
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That’ll learn ya :-)
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