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Breaking Bad- 509 (Spoiler Potential)

Posted on 08/13/2013 11:08:30 AM PDT by Mr. K

Who saw the first episode of the last season of Breaking Bad last night?

Is this the most awesome show ever on TV or what?

The acting is first rate all around.

When Hank punches Walt it looks like he is going to go all out right then and there, but as Walt circles back around him and stares Hank down at the end, it shows he is clearly in charge of the situation


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I missed the trailer for next week.

Who wants to have a weekly Breaking Bad discussion thread?

1 posted on 08/13/2013 11:08:30 AM PDT by Mr. K
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To: Mr. K
Who wants to have a weekly Breaking Bad discussion thread? Yesssssssssssssss!!!!
2 posted on 08/13/2013 11:11:19 AM PDT by ColdOne (I miss my poochie... Tasha 2000~3/14/11)
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To: Mr. K

I can’t wait to find out what Walt plans on doing with the ricin and M-60 machine gun.


3 posted on 08/13/2013 11:11:30 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Who knew that one day professional wrestling would be less fake than professional journalism?)
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To: Mr. K
I think the neighbor Carol who Walt said "hello" to twice in this episode is Vince Gilligan's real-life mother.
4 posted on 08/13/2013 11:13:14 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Who knew that one day professional wrestling would be less fake than professional journalism?)
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To: Mr. K

Please no spoilers anyone. I generally watch this incredible show on Netflicks which is always a season behind. The first half of season 5 was just released on Netflicks and I am devouring it. Glad to hear that the second half of season 5 starts out with a bang. Brian Cranston has created one of the most fascinating characters of all time in Walter White. “I’m not in the drug business - I’m in the empire building business”


5 posted on 08/13/2013 11:13:49 AM PDT by circlecity
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To: Mr. K
I just love "Breaking Bad"


6 posted on 08/13/2013 11:14:46 AM PDT by Bobalu (It is not obama we are fighting, it is the media.)
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To: Mr. K

Notice something about this show....WW has turned everyone his way from his wife, Jesse, Mike, the big chicken man, the old man in the wheel chair.....will he turn Hank, there is a lot of money on the table.


7 posted on 08/13/2013 11:15:30 AM PDT by kenmcg (scapegoat)
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To: kenmcg

I don’t think he will turn Hank.

I believe this series can only end one way, with Hank dead or in jail, and probably dead.


8 posted on 08/13/2013 11:17:15 AM PDT by NeoCaveman (DC, it's Versailles on the Potomac but without the food and culture)
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To: circlecity

you got some good news coming then- the CURRENT episode is always available 24 hours later on their website!!

http://www.amctv.com/

Next week we should have a running thread sunday night!


9 posted on 08/13/2013 11:19:13 AM PDT by Mr. K (Lies, Damned Lies, and Statistics, and then Democrat Talking Points.)
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To: Mr. K
"you got some good news coming then- the CURRENT episode is always available 24 hours later on their website!!"

I know but I prefer to wait and "power watch" an entire season in a few days rather than watching week by week. That's why I wait until the whole season is released on Netflics. I used to do the same thing with "The Sopranos" - even though I had HBO I always waited for the season to come out on DVD and would then watch the entire season in a weekend.

10 posted on 08/13/2013 11:21:52 AM PDT by circlecity
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To: Mr. K

I agree . . . one of the best shows on television. So what happens? Will Walt and Jesse get sucked back into the trade? Will Hank get whacked now that he’s onto Walt? Will Walt get away with it all? Can’t wait to see it all unfold because I think they’ll be a few twists and turns that I never anticipated which is what makes watching the show so great.


11 posted on 08/13/2013 11:23:20 AM PDT by AtlasStalled
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To: Mr. K

I am confused, I thought it was the last episode.


12 posted on 08/13/2013 11:23:59 AM PDT by Perdogg (Cruz-Paul 2016)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

I thought he called her Carol once and Karen once... it seemed odd to me


13 posted on 08/13/2013 11:24:11 AM PDT by Mr. K (Lies, Damned Lies, and Statistics, and then Democrat Talking Points.)
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To: Mr. K

Who wants to have a weekly Breaking Bad discussion thread?

If you start a thread or ping list for this please include me.


14 posted on 08/13/2013 11:24:14 AM PDT by AtlasStalled
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To: Mr. K
"Next week we should have a running thread sunday night!"

If a regular show thread develops then I could easily be persuaded to finish the first half of Season five on Netflics this week and start watching every week to join in the thread. I love this show. (although the scenes with Walt and Skylar generally drag - I wouldn't miss them at all)

15 posted on 08/13/2013 11:25:27 AM PDT by circlecity
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To: Mr. K

I think everyone needs to remember the teaser at the beginning of the season. Walt had hair, and was turning 52. Either he beats cancer, or he’s dying. Either way, fantastic episode.


16 posted on 08/13/2013 11:26:11 AM PDT by Bastiat_Fan
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To: AtlasStalled

They had a “Talking Bad” show after Breaking Bad and the head writer was on it. His only hint was the woman who’d been shipping the meth to Czechoslovakia wasn’t going away.


17 posted on 08/13/2013 11:29:10 AM PDT by Blackirish (Forward Comrades!!!!!!!!!)
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To: Mr. K

I know how it all ends up, I saw the advance scripts....What happens is Walter declares himself a Democrat and all is forgiven, he is free to go.


18 posted on 08/13/2013 11:29:57 AM PDT by GrandJediMasterYoda (Someday our schools will teach the difference between "lose" and "loose")
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To: NeoCaveman

“I believe this series can only end one way, with Hank dead or in jail, and probably dead.”

=

Hank?

.


19 posted on 08/13/2013 11:30:06 AM PDT by Mears
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To: Blackirish

“His only hint was the woman who’d been shipping the meth to Czechoslovakia wasn’t going away.”

Pretty clever to have some corporate executive who is in charge of logistics and shipping for a worldwide company handle the smuggling and distribution across borders. It’s so well done.


20 posted on 08/13/2013 11:31:56 AM PDT by AtlasStalled
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To: Mears
Hank?

I meant Walt.

Walt will wind up dead or in jail (my guesses).

Sorry. i've not been sleeping.

21 posted on 08/13/2013 11:34:45 AM PDT by NeoCaveman (DC, it's Versailles on the Potomac but without the food and culture)
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To: NeoCaveman

I think Walt ends up getting Hank to go off the deep end and go to prison for either hitting him or framing him. What could be worse than death for a DEA agent?


22 posted on 08/13/2013 11:36:13 AM PDT by TurboZamboni (Marx smelled bad & lived with his parents most his life.)
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To: Perdogg

Last night was the first episode of the last season.

We already knew Walt is dying from cancer again.

Last year all took place around birthday 52 and the end-of-season flash-forward showed many things:

He is alone on his 53rd birthday, his hair has grown back and he has a beard (stopped Chemo) but he is coughing up blood so you know he is dying, he bought a machine gun.

This episode (509) started with more foreshadowing- apparently after he picks up the machine gun he goes to his house, which is now a boarded up and fenced-in wreck, just to retrieve a vial of RICIN he had stored.

The next door neighbor lady looked petrified at seeing him there- I thought I heard him call her “Carol” once but “Karen” another time.. may be wrong about that- but that shows something major happened and she knows, although being next door to a fenced-in house would be hard to miss.

I can’t picture Hank doing anything FOR NOW except try to manuever the kids and Walt’s wife out of the picture to ‘safety’(Skyler is such a cool name!)

Hank is awesome in that his first instict is always about protecting someone else.


23 posted on 08/13/2013 11:37:02 AM PDT by Mr. K (Lies, Damned Lies, and Statistics, and then Democrat Talking Points.)
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To: Blackirish

The woman shipping meth to Czeck needs Walt- I can’t imagine her deciding to just go away - she is crazy-dangerous


24 posted on 08/13/2013 11:39:25 AM PDT by Mr. K (Lies, Damned Lies, and Statistics, and then Democrat Talking Points.)
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To: Mr. K

Hank is really in a catch 22 situation, everything I can think he might do about it has it’s own huge risks and negatives attached.

Freegards


25 posted on 08/13/2013 11:41:54 AM PDT by Ransomed
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To: Mr. K
"This episode (509) started with more foreshadowing- apparently after he picks up the machine gun he goes to his house, which is now a boarded up and fenced-in wreck, just to retrieve a vial of RICIN he had stored...that shows something major happened"

the "something major happened" I believe is a DEA no-knock warrant and bad things went down and Walt's family was killed. Hence the machine gun and the ricin. Walt is going to serve up some revenge. (Even though his actions brought about the tragedy!)

26 posted on 08/13/2013 11:42:26 AM PDT by Mad Dawgg (If you're going to deny my 1st Amendment rights then I must proceed to the 2nd one...)
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To: Mr. K

hmmmm now i am posting to myslef- I love this show!

I think the corporate exec woman kidnaps walts wife and kids in order to force him to work for her

That gives Hank an ‘out’ in that he can force himself to believe Walt was blackmailed all along to going into it


27 posted on 08/13/2013 11:42:27 AM PDT by Mr. K (Lies, Damned Lies, and Statistics, and then Democrat Talking Points.)
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To: Mad Dawgg

you know the house was boarded up by the feds so SOMETHING goes down with them, but Walt is not in jail so...


28 posted on 08/13/2013 11:45:51 AM PDT by Mr. K (Lies, Damned Lies, and Statistics, and then Democrat Talking Points.)
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To: Mr. K

He’s going to wake up and find that his name is Hal and he’s married to lois and find that he has 5 sons.


29 posted on 08/13/2013 11:45:58 AM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: TurboZamboni

My opinion and it is just mine.

Is that this universe that Mr. Gilligan has wrote is a very moral one. One in where the wages of sin are death. And we’ve seen it hit all those who come into the sphere of Walt White.

We’ve seen Walt go from a good man who did bad things to being fully corrupted.

I think I have a hard time with any ending other than Walt’s death.

My only real question is should it be Jesse or Hank or kills him and I suspect it will be Jesse.


30 posted on 08/13/2013 11:51:47 AM PDT by NeoCaveman (DC, it's Versailles on the Potomac but without the food and culture)
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To: NeoCaveman

Highly corruptible- like the little Marco who went to D.C.


31 posted on 08/13/2013 11:53:37 AM PDT by TurboZamboni (Marx smelled bad & lived with his parents most his life.)
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To: Mr. K
"you know the house was boarded up by the feds so SOMETHING goes down with them, but Walt is not in jail so..."

The raid goes down when Walt isn't home.

I figure Skylar freaks out and goes for a weapon to protect the baby when the doors are kicked in thinking its the cartel coming after them and the FEDS start shooting. Jr. rushes into the fray and gets hammered also.

Watch the episode again and you will notice most of the doors INSIDE the house are kicked down and in the room where he gets the ricin the door is laying on the floor and destroyed like it was hammered off the hinges.

32 posted on 08/13/2013 11:57:06 AM PDT by Mad Dawgg (If you're going to deny my 1st Amendment rights then I must proceed to the 2nd one...)
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To: Mr. K

I do!!!!!!

Here is my prediction.....
Walt will go down in a blaze of glory...in other words...he will be killed...he is a cold blooded killer now....
Walt’s Cancer will go back into remission.
His wife said she was waiting for him to get cancer and die.
Hank will not accept being threatened by Walt, and will try to kill him.
Now here is something to think about......

His son Jr.
Everyone thinks he is stupid because he is handicapped.....I do not think so....
I think he has been fully aware of what has been going on.....but he loves his family, and he LOVES his uncle Hank....when he finds out that his dad threatened Hank.....well who would you least think would end up killing Walt???? Think about it....that would freak everyone out!!!


33 posted on 08/13/2013 11:57:55 AM PDT by astratt7 (obama,muslim,politics)
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To: Mr. K

I believe he called her Carol both times.

My perception was the house had been seized by the Federal Govt. because the truth had come out that WW was Heisenburg the Meth drug lord of the southwest. Therefore, there must be a warrant out for his arrest(similar to Whitey Bulger).

Also, that WW had been on the run for some time. Remember the first scene from the first half of this season? WW was driving a Volvo with NH plates with the “Live Free or Die” state motto? He had a different vehicle in this foreshadowing scene at his old house. He switched cars.


34 posted on 08/13/2013 11:58:40 AM PDT by woodbutcher1963
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To: Mad Dawgg

But WHO spray painted HEISENBERG on the wall in the living room?

hint: It was someone who knew Walt was Heisenberg.


35 posted on 08/13/2013 12:02:29 PM PDT by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
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To: cripplecreek
He’s going to wake up and find that his name is Hal and he’s married to lois and find that he has 5 sons.

Never was a huge fan of Lois, but she is better than Skyler.

Does anyone like Skyler White?

36 posted on 08/13/2013 12:06:17 PM PDT by NeoCaveman (DC, it's Versailles on the Potomac but without the food and culture)
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To: Responsibility2nd
"But WHO spray painted HEISENBERG on the wall in the living room?"

"hint: It was someone who knew Walt was Heisenberg."

There is ganger tags all over the inside of the house.

I am betting the DEA claims Walt instigated the gunfight and then reports to the media he is Heisenberg and on the lam. BOLO and such which accounts for the reaction of the neighbor.

After the dust settled the gangers and skaters tagged the house. (Note the skaters using the pool)

37 posted on 08/13/2013 12:08:29 PM PDT by Mad Dawgg (If you're going to deny my 1st Amendment rights then I must proceed to the 2nd one...)
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To: Mr. K
Modern day version of classic Greek tragedy.

One of the best written shows I've ever seen

From Tim Whately the dentiat who converted to Judaism for the jokes to Malcolm's dad, to Walter White. I never thought that Bryan Cranston was that talented till he got the right vehicle.

38 posted on 08/13/2013 12:11:22 PM PDT by KosmicKitty (WARNING: Hormonally crazed woman ahead!!)
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To: Mad Dawgg

Probably right. But I wonder if Jesse and his stoner friends have some responsibility?


39 posted on 08/13/2013 12:12:34 PM PDT by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
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To: NeoCaveman

That’s the way they ended the Newhart show with Bob waking up next to the wife from a previous series.


40 posted on 08/13/2013 12:19:35 PM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: circlecity

My recommendation to you is to NOT click on any thread about Breaking Bad if you don’t want to be spoiled about episodes you haven’t watched yet. That is your responsibility, not ours.


41 posted on 08/13/2013 12:21:54 PM PDT by LibertarianLiz
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda

“What happens is Walter declares himself a Democrat and all is forgiven, he is free to go.”

And is elected Mayor of a major US city. I saw it too..


42 posted on 08/13/2013 12:23:25 PM PDT by pieceofthepuzzle
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To: cripplecreek
That’s the way they ended the Newhart show with Bob waking up next to the wife from a previous series.

I remember that.

One of the best series finales ever.

43 posted on 08/13/2013 12:25:05 PM PDT by NeoCaveman (DC, it's Versailles on the Potomac but without the food and culture)
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To: Mr. K

I thought one poignant part of the show was after Hank did a beat down on Walt...Hank looked at Walt and said, “I don’t know who I’m talking to”...Walt said a little menacing... “If you don’t know who I am then maybe you should tread carefully”

Hank already knows the true power Walt has just by all the research he’s been doing and I’m looking forward to next episode to see if Hank starts to back off out of fear what Walt might do to him and his family.


44 posted on 08/13/2013 12:34:56 PM PDT by RetSignman (Standing my ground against group think.)
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To: NeoCaveman

He won’t turn Hank but I think he will join forces with him again in order to get his previous business associates off his back.


45 posted on 08/13/2013 12:38:08 PM PDT by Teflonic
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To: Blackirish

“hey had a “Talking Bad” show after Breaking Bad and the head writer was on it. His only hint was the woman who’d been shipping the meth to Czechoslovakia wasn’t going away.

Yes she is. That is who the ricin is for.


46 posted on 08/13/2013 12:39:04 PM PDT by Cyman
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To: Mad Dawgg
BOLO and such which accounts for the reaction of the neighbor.

The reaction of the neighbor was like she saw someone back from the dead. Maybe Walt somehow fakes his own death.

In this show, anything can happen. Anything. And it is all believable. That's what makes this show so amazing: all of it could totally have happened in real life. There is very little need for the willing suspension of disbelief.

47 posted on 08/13/2013 12:39:08 PM PDT by Semper911 (When you want to rob Peter to pay Paul, you'll always have the support of Paul.)
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To: pieceofthepuzzle
lol! Yep!


48 posted on 08/13/2013 12:46:44 PM PDT by GrandJediMasterYoda (Someday our schools will teach the difference between "lose" and "loose")
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To: Mr. K

I had meth freak neighbors once - it was horrifying.

IMO, anyone who’s been exposed to real meth freaks could not have any interest in this show.

Meth is truly evil - it is Every Bad Thing. “Enjoying” a show about meth is like “enjoying” a show about Aushwitz.

The Sopranos wasn’t hideous enough - now you’ve got Breaking Bad, and you suck it up and feed your soul on its filth.

But hey, enjoy yourselves. Then go back to posting about conservative values on Free Republic, and wondering why things keep getting worse in America.


49 posted on 08/13/2013 1:09:02 PM PDT by Talisker (One who commands, must obey.)
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To: Mr. K

“Walt circles back around him and stares Hank down at the end, it shows he is clearly in charge of the situation”

We thought that Hank suddenly realized how many casualties are due to “Heisenberg”, and he figured he could easily become another one.


50 posted on 08/13/2013 1:27:15 PM PDT by MayflowerMadam (I feel much better since I gave up hope.)
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