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Un-Documented wants to be a Marine.
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Posted on 08/15/2013 6:53:52 AM PDT by CGASMIA68

Have you seen this ad? Un-documented/illegal wants to be a Marine.Been here since 5 why doesn't he become a citizen and join the Marines?


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I sent them an email asking the same.
1 posted on 08/15/2013 6:53:52 AM PDT by CGASMIA68
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To: t1b8zs

DemocRAT propaganda. He might not be a Marine but he’s already a political tool.


2 posted on 08/15/2013 6:55:53 AM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Senator Foghorn says, You should never resist being raped, robbed, beat down or murdered.)
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To: t1b8zs
Saw this earlier this morning on FoxNews. Makes my blood boil to see the Marine Corps War Memorial used by this anti-American cabal!


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3 posted on 08/15/2013 7:00:12 AM PDT by ConorMacNessa (HM/2 USN, 3/5 Marines RVN 1969 - St. Michael the Archangel defend us in Battle!)
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To: FlingWingFlyer

I’ve seen this ad, and it’s offensive.

Take the situation of one illegal, turn it into a sob story, and portray it as the norm.

It’s the worst form of propaganda.

If parents want the best for their kids, they won’t allow them to engage in criminal behavior, such as illegal entry into a country. Actions have consequences.


4 posted on 08/15/2013 7:00:26 AM PDT by Tigerized
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To: Tigerized

Yeah. I saw it a couple of days ago for the first time on TV. It’s pretty disgusting. Only a fool can’t see that this is nothing but DemocRAT propaganda.


5 posted on 08/15/2013 7:02:45 AM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Senator Foghorn says, You should never resist being raped, robbed, beat down or murdered.)
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To: t1b8zs

You dont need to be a citizen to be a marine, you just need to be legal.


6 posted on 08/15/2013 7:03:16 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: t1b8zs

The entire ad is FALSE:

http://www.usimmigrationlawyers.com/resources/immigration-law/applications-process/how-gain-us-citizenship-through-military-serv


7 posted on 08/15/2013 7:05:26 AM PDT by big'ol_freeper ("Evil is powerless if the good are unafraid" ~ Ronald Wilson Reagan)
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To: t1b8zs
I want to be an MARINE! I'm only 45 but I can still see out of my one good eye, and the titanium plate in my foot doesn't set off too many alarms. They need to change all the rules to accommodate me so my feelings won't be hurt and stuff.

It's all about me! Me! ME!! /s

8 posted on 08/15/2013 7:08:49 AM PDT by jboot (It can happen here because it IS happening here.)
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To: FlingWingFlyer
Exactly. No illegal alien should be allowed into our military. He already demonstrated that he has no respect for our laws. This would only provide an easy way for terrorists and drug cartel members to infiltrate our military.
9 posted on 08/15/2013 7:11:15 AM PDT by Dante3
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To: Dante3

I tend to disagree. If we are going to have a path to amnesty for illegals, I think honorably serving a term in the military is among the best options.


10 posted on 08/15/2013 7:19:54 AM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: driftdiver
You don't need to be a citizen to be a marine, you just need to be legal.

He can return to his native land, apply for legal entry in order to enlist in the USMC, and be welcomed in (if he can pass the standards for enlistment).

Any NON-MUSLIM foreigner willing to serve and capable of serving, who intends to become an AMERICAN should be accepted under those conditions. (Donning flameproof NOMEX)

11 posted on 08/15/2013 7:21:11 AM PDT by JimRed (Excise the cancer before it kills us; feed &water the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS, NOW & FOREVER!)
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To: t1b8zs

Go join the Mexican marines


12 posted on 08/15/2013 7:23:31 AM PDT by BO Stinkss (If life were fair Elvis would still be alive today and all the impersonators would be dead.)
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To: driftdiver

Didnt know that about a citizen,but roger on the illegal part


13 posted on 08/15/2013 7:30:25 AM PDT by CGASMIA68
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To: JimRed

Whats to flame, thats current law.


14 posted on 08/15/2013 7:31:20 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: Sherman Logan
No way. No illegals should ever be allowed into the military. They already have shown they are not honorable persons. They are generally full of entitlement and ready and willing to break our laws. This would allow for the infiltration of the armed forces.

Just because somebody joins our military does not mean they love us. They might have many motives, including doing us harm.

15 posted on 08/15/2013 7:32:49 AM PDT by Dante3
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To: driftdiver

A program to allow them to earn a green card by joining a US Foreign Legion is not the worst idea I’ve heard.


16 posted on 08/15/2013 7:39:29 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: t1b8zs

They’ve been watching Game of Thrones or something. Pledging the black and defending the Wall protecting the kingdoms erases the past and cleans the sale.


17 posted on 08/15/2013 7:40:35 AM PDT by Tanniker Smith (Rome didn't fall in a day, either.)
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To: Buckeye McFrog

This was a policy at one time. Until the late 1970s IIRC the US navy recruited a small number of Filipinos and they were granted citizenship upon completing their enlistment. There was great competition for the few slots available.
If the US ever was truly short of military manpower it could very easily find plenty of recruits this way.


18 posted on 08/15/2013 7:53:12 AM PDT by buwaya
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To: driftdiver

The problem is being legal. Demand is much higher than the quota for legal immigration, otherwise there wouldn’t be illegal immigration. Getting into the immigration queue for Mexico means, realistically, waiting decades. Not a practical method, a young person would have built a career and a life at home and be approaching retirement by the time his number comes up.
Maybe that’s what it should be, as there is no realistic alternative given our present laws, reality is what it is.
I think though that a much better system would be to select a quality pool of young people, based on accomplishments, health, English language, IQ, etc., and then run a lottery.


19 posted on 08/15/2013 8:01:57 AM PDT by buwaya
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To: buwaya
As a “fresh caught Seaman Recruit” in 1973 I arrived at my first ship, a little fleet tug based in San Diego.

One of the Chief's (otherwise know as God!) was a really nice Filipino who was reaching his 20th year. He was always positive and happy but as his retirement date drew nearer he seemed even happier.

I asked him one day this and he explained that with his, to us, meager naval retired pay he would be able to give his family a lifestyle as good as that of the Governor of Manila.

Back on your point, I understand it has always been possible for a foreign national to volunteer to serve in our armed forces and if accepted and they serve honorably then citizenship was on the fast track if they wanted it. But they had to legally enter the armed forces.

20 posted on 08/15/2013 8:11:49 AM PDT by lowbuck (The Blue Card (US Passport) Don't leave home without it.)
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To: lowbuck

Point is that today we are not permitting foreigners to enter the armed forces at all, unless they are already past the immigration queues. If they are legal there is no need for them to enlist to become citizens, its just a matter of applying after 2 years. So they aren’t really foreigners.
If we had a policy of permitting a small number of foreign applicants not already in the immigration track we could select some very high quality and very motivated people.


21 posted on 08/15/2013 8:21:53 AM PDT by buwaya
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To: t1b8zs

Why hasn’t this guy been deported yet?


22 posted on 08/15/2013 8:46:43 AM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both.)
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To: t1b8zs

A friend’s Irish father became an American by serving in the Marines, joining before he was a citizen. I hope the little guy doesn’t let the brainwashing affect him his whole life.


23 posted on 08/15/2013 3:09:40 PM PDT by OldNewYork (Biden '13. Impeach now.)
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To: OldNewYork

If the Irishman was already a legal resident but not a citizen, he was allowed to join the Marines. He did not HAVE to join the Marines to become a citizen.

But lacking status as a legal resident in the first place, he could not have joined the Marines. No Irishman in Dublin can go to the US Embassy and ask to enlist. He would have to first go to the immigration window and apply there.

Neither can this Mexican we are discussing. If he were to go back to Mexico he would be unable to enlist until he has waited his time in the immigration queues and his number comes up, probably by the time he’s 40. Or older.

The Filipinos who were permitted to enlist in the US Navy up to the late 1970’s could apply at the base at Subic, even if they had no immigration status, at which point they were granted immigration status. But this policy was, even at the time, restricted to Filipinos, and a rather small number of them (a couple of hundred a year I think). No Irish could have applied even back then. There has been no open recruitment into the US military since the immigration restrictions of the 1920’s.


24 posted on 08/15/2013 5:55:51 PM PDT by buwaya
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To: buwaya

I’d ask his father for more details on this, but he’s in Marine Heaven now. I didn’t say he had to join the Marines to become a citizen, only that that was how he became one. He already was indeed a resident. Whether he was a legal one or not, I don’t know, but I suspect he was here legally, considering his respect for this country.


25 posted on 08/16/2013 3:52:14 AM PDT by OldNewYork (Biden '13. Impeach now.)
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