Skip to comments.Un-Documented wants to be a Marine.
Posted on 08/15/2013 6:53:52 AM PDT by CGASMIA68
Have you seen this ad? Un-documented/illegal wants to be a Marine.Been here since 5 why doesn't he become a citizen and join the Marines?
DemocRAT propaganda. He might not be a Marine but he’s already a political tool.
America demands Justice for the Fallen of Benghazi!
I’ve seen this ad, and it’s offensive.
Take the situation of one illegal, turn it into a sob story, and portray it as the norm.
It’s the worst form of propaganda.
If parents want the best for their kids, they won’t allow them to engage in criminal behavior, such as illegal entry into a country. Actions have consequences.
Yeah. I saw it a couple of days ago for the first time on TV. It’s pretty disgusting. Only a fool can’t see that this is nothing but DemocRAT propaganda.
You dont need to be a citizen to be a marine, you just need to be legal.
The entire ad is FALSE:
It's all about me! Me! ME!! /s
I tend to disagree. If we are going to have a path to amnesty for illegals, I think honorably serving a term in the military is among the best options.
He can return to his native land, apply for legal entry in order to enlist in the USMC, and be welcomed in (if he can pass the standards for enlistment).
Any NON-MUSLIM foreigner willing to serve and capable of serving, who intends to become an AMERICAN should be accepted under those conditions. (Donning flameproof NOMEX)
Go join the Mexican marines
Didnt know that about a citizen,but roger on the illegal part
Whats to flame, thats current law.
Just because somebody joins our military does not mean they love us. They might have many motives, including doing us harm.
A program to allow them to earn a green card by joining a US Foreign Legion is not the worst idea I’ve heard.
They’ve been watching Game of Thrones or something. Pledging the black and defending the Wall protecting the kingdoms erases the past and cleans the sale.
This was a policy at one time. Until the late 1970s IIRC the US navy recruited a small number of Filipinos and they were granted citizenship upon completing their enlistment. There was great competition for the few slots available.
If the US ever was truly short of military manpower it could very easily find plenty of recruits this way.
The problem is being legal. Demand is much higher than the quota for legal immigration, otherwise there wouldn’t be illegal immigration. Getting into the immigration queue for Mexico means, realistically, waiting decades. Not a practical method, a young person would have built a career and a life at home and be approaching retirement by the time his number comes up.
Maybe that’s what it should be, as there is no realistic alternative given our present laws, reality is what it is.
I think though that a much better system would be to select a quality pool of young people, based on accomplishments, health, English language, IQ, etc., and then run a lottery.
One of the Chief's (otherwise know as God!) was a really nice Filipino who was reaching his 20th year. He was always positive and happy but as his retirement date drew nearer he seemed even happier.
I asked him one day this and he explained that with his, to us, meager naval retired pay he would be able to give his family a lifestyle as good as that of the Governor of Manila.
Back on your point, I understand it has always been possible for a foreign national to volunteer to serve in our armed forces and if accepted and they serve honorably then citizenship was on the fast track if they wanted it. But they had to legally enter the armed forces.
Point is that today we are not permitting foreigners to enter the armed forces at all, unless they are already past the immigration queues. If they are legal there is no need for them to enlist to become citizens, its just a matter of applying after 2 years. So they aren’t really foreigners.
If we had a policy of permitting a small number of foreign applicants not already in the immigration track we could select some very high quality and very motivated people.
Why hasn’t this guy been deported yet?
A friend’s Irish father became an American by serving in the Marines, joining before he was a citizen. I hope the little guy doesn’t let the brainwashing affect him his whole life.
If the Irishman was already a legal resident but not a citizen, he was allowed to join the Marines. He did not HAVE to join the Marines to become a citizen.
But lacking status as a legal resident in the first place, he could not have joined the Marines. No Irishman in Dublin can go to the US Embassy and ask to enlist. He would have to first go to the immigration window and apply there.
Neither can this Mexican we are discussing. If he were to go back to Mexico he would be unable to enlist until he has waited his time in the immigration queues and his number comes up, probably by the time he’s 40. Or older.
The Filipinos who were permitted to enlist in the US Navy up to the late 1970’s could apply at the base at Subic, even if they had no immigration status, at which point they were granted immigration status. But this policy was, even at the time, restricted to Filipinos, and a rather small number of them (a couple of hundred a year I think). No Irish could have applied even back then. There has been no open recruitment into the US military since the immigration restrictions of the 1920’s.
I’d ask his father for more details on this, but he’s in Marine Heaven now. I didn’t say he had to join the Marines to become a citizen, only that that was how he became one. He already was indeed a resident. Whether he was a legal one or not, I don’t know, but I suspect he was here legally, considering his respect for this country.