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European forests near carbon saturation point (uh-huh)
Euronews ^ | 08/19/2013 07:36 CET

Posted on 08/21/2013 6:25:40 AM PDT by Olog-hai

A new study has warned that Europe’s forests are showing signs of reaching saturation point in their ability to absorb carbon dioxide. …

Forests currently soak up about 10 percent of Europe’s emissions, but woodlands from Spain to Sweden are getting older and are packed with trees that are less efficient at soaking them up. …

The information comes in a study published in the journal Nature Climate Change.

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TOPICS: Chit/Chat; Gardening; Science; Weird Stuff
KEYWORDS: climatechangehoax; eussr; forests; globalwarminghoax
Totally unbiased, of course.
1 posted on 08/21/2013 6:25:40 AM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai

So the trees will turn to coal or crude oil then. Awesome!!


2 posted on 08/21/2013 6:27:04 AM PDT by HereInTheHeartland (Just wanted to say I hope you great NSA folks are enjoying my posts here.)
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To: Olog-hai

So big deal. Just cut the old growth timber and the problem is solved.


3 posted on 08/21/2013 6:27:29 AM PDT by Mr. Lucky
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To: Olog-hai

The amount of CO2 in the atmosphere has grown much and still is less than 2%. The earth has been cooling for 15 years. Maybe we need to burn more wood.


4 posted on 08/21/2013 6:28:38 AM PDT by mountainlion (Live well for those that did not make it back.)
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To: Olog-hai

Okay, the easy fix is to log the forests so new trees can grow and absorb more carbon.


5 posted on 08/21/2013 6:31:19 AM PDT by Boogieman
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To: Olog-hai
Interesting, they are stating that the problem is “old growth forests”.

Great, cut them down and make furniture. That furniture will hold the old carbon in place, while the new forest soaks up the new carbon.

Paging the Sierra Club.

6 posted on 08/21/2013 6:33:36 AM PDT by SampleMan (Feral Humans are the refuse of socialism.)
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To: Olog-hai

And the ‘dopes’ in Seattle will buy this completely as they fight over that last bag of free munchies


7 posted on 08/21/2013 6:35:11 AM PDT by phockthis (http://www.supremelaw.org/fedzone11/index.htm ...)
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To: Olog-hai

I read somewhere that grasses are the predominant producer of oxygen, not trees.


8 posted on 08/21/2013 6:38:29 AM PDT by RedwM
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To: Olog-hai
Forests currently soak up about 10 percent of Europe’s emissions, but woodlands from Spain to Sweden are getting older and are packed with trees that are less efficient at soaking them up.

So, harvest the older trees and plant two new ones for each removed. Problem solved.

9 posted on 08/21/2013 6:41:56 AM PDT by JimRed (Excise the cancer before it kills us; feed &water the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS, NOW & FOREVER!)
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To: SampleMan

I’d like to tell the old growth trees...
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=roFB7bGCAgc&desktop_uri=%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DroFB7bGCAgc


10 posted on 08/21/2013 6:42:10 AM PDT by ViLaLuz (2 Chronicles 7:14)
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To: Olog-hai

I’m so sick of these ecofascists and their steady lying.

Locally I’m fighting 3 different enviro groups who use lying and bribery to get their way. The Raisin Valley Land Trust, Waterkeepers, and Raisin River watershed council are keeping up a steady barrage of lies about the devastated wildlife and promising grant writers to give us free money. To make matters worse, the state and feds help them by giving tax breaks to those who sell out our freedoms.


11 posted on 08/21/2013 6:43:18 AM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: mountainlion

Less than 2%??? It’s far, far less. Currently at about 400 parts per million, the percentage is 0.04%.


12 posted on 08/21/2013 6:44:20 AM PDT by Bob
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To: Mr. Lucky

The tree whisperer overheard the following conversation between a cranky old growth oak and an old fart ancient maple. “I am so full and tired,” said the ancient oak. “My branches weigh heavily on my trunk and they are so filled with leaves and acorns I am afraid the birds will break me when they come to roost and feed.”
“I know exactly how you feel,” said the maple. “The more carbon I consume the more sap I produce. Every bug in the forest is feeding on me. If this keeps up I will be so filled with tunnels and holes I will bleed to death.”
And as the trees carried on their sad conversation acorns sprouted everywhere and the maples’ helicopter seeds were blown far and wide.
It is a truth more fundamental than all the other realities of nature that plants and animals exist in a perfect balance that keeps both healthy.
The more plants the more animals. The more animals the more plants. They are the ultimate marriage, existing in a perfect symbiosis. One cannot destroy the other.
The more plants animals consume the more plants grow up and flourish. This is the divine plan and no foolish animal who thinks he is God can change it.


13 posted on 08/21/2013 6:45:31 AM PDT by Louis Foxwell (This is a wake up call. Join the Sultan Knish ping list.)
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To: mountainlion

Actually, the atmosphere if about 0.039 per cent CO2. Yep, it’s a trace gas.

2% is up in the range of water vapor in the atmosphere.

By the way, water vapor *IS* a far more powerful greenhouse gas than CO2, and no one disputes that. We should ban water vapor, right?


14 posted on 08/21/2013 6:45:31 AM PDT by Blueflag (Res ipsa loquitur: non vehere est inermus)
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To: ViLaLuz

Maybe Jackyl will hold a benefit concert.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A52p9jc-gOo


15 posted on 08/21/2013 6:45:39 AM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: Olog-hai

Academic “modernity” has it, that “forestry” is bashing human existance.

Traditional forestry is hands on -— tree trimming, thinning out the branches (grooming), and generally taking actual care of the trees - particularly near water and/or in flat areas, where water collects, and old growth tends to collapse upon itself and choke further growth which results in bog development and spindly pines.

I’m surprised somewhat, because we used to cultivate/care for trees, but now, I see a tree crew just do one of three things: cut away branches near a cable, cut away low branches, or cut down a tree. I rarely see a crew who can eyeball a tree and realize that a few branches could be cut out, that either relieve stress and/or allow light. They don’t seem to know how to *thin* a tree; they almost never know how to top a tree.

Thinning particularly helps sunlight get to the forest floor, and where water run-off is not fast, this helps greatly.

Basically, “modernity” of the leftists/academics favors forest rot and fires, which destroys, but tradtional forestry maintained both old and new growth.

Around here, we have a lot of ash trees that need help. We can trim them and spray them ... and save them ... but there are so many neo-green-eco-nuts who are busy chatting the latest “modernity” instead of doing: tree trimming/thinning.


16 posted on 08/21/2013 6:50:35 AM PDT by First_Salute (May God save our democratic-republican government, from a government by judiciary.)
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To: Olog-hai

“A declining volume of trees, deforestation and the impact of natural disturbances are to blame.”

I was watching some show, I think it was “How do they do that”, and it was about men that were employed by the state to go out and cut down trees that were looking too old. They did this to improve safety for people hiking in the woods. It was in Germany or some Scandinavian country. That’s when you’ve taken things too far.


17 posted on 08/21/2013 6:51:20 AM PDT by ryan71 (The Partisans)
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To: Olog-hai
"woodlands from Spain to Sweden are getting older and are packed with trees that are less efficient at soaking them up"

LOGGING!

(There, solved it for ya, Europe)

18 posted on 08/21/2013 6:56:23 AM PDT by Uncle Miltie (Where's my pressure cooker backpack wmd ricin laced al qaeda terrorist BASSELOPE?)
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To: Bob

Less than 2%??? It’s far, far less. Currently at about 400 parts per million, the percentage is 0.04%.

Thanks for that. That is far better than my poor memory told me.


19 posted on 08/21/2013 7:07:39 AM PDT by mountainlion (Live well for those that did not make it back.)
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To: cripplecreek

Bwa ha ha ha ha ha


20 posted on 08/21/2013 7:09:31 AM PDT by ViLaLuz (2 Chronicles 7:14)
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To: RedwM
I read somewhere that grasses are the predominant producer of oxygen, not trees.

Yep, that makes a lot more sense. Grasses and underbrush.

I live in the Southeast. The Kudzu vines down here grow 10' a day, and will catch and eat slow moving animals (kidding, sort of). Just that right there is one heck of a carbon sink.

21 posted on 08/21/2013 7:12:34 AM PDT by wbill
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To: wbill
Yep, that makes a lot more sense. Grasses and underbrush.

But if it either rots or is eaten then it isn't a carbon sink because the carbon is released back into the environment. You need a way to freeze the carbon so that it isn't released, so I propose chopping down the Black Forest and making and burying non-degradable bioplastics. Let some water bottle's 10,000 year life span do some good. (Do I hear the Sierra Club's heads exploding like the Martians in Mars Attacks yet?)

I live in the Southeast. The Kudzu vines down here grow 10' a day, and will catch and eat slow moving animals (kidding, sort of).

I'm far enough north I've never had to deal with kudzu (my battles are against honeysuckle and fence eating mulberry bushes), but that was funny.

22 posted on 08/21/2013 8:09:38 AM PDT by KarlInOhio (This message has been recorded but not approved by Obama's StasiNet. Read it at your peril.)
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To: KarlInOhio
Re: Kudzu....I drive by a pasture on my morning commute. The horses LOVE it! They hang over the fences to get to it. They haven't figured out that if they just wait a little bit, it will come to get them.

A few local entrepeneurs have been grinding up the (roots? stems?) into a flour, and marketing the flour over in Japan. If "kudzu flour" ever takes off, there are plenty of people, right here in my hometown, who are sitting on a fortune.

23 posted on 08/21/2013 9:08:12 AM PDT by wbill
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