Skip to comments.China's fake Paris ghostown
Posted on 08/26/2013 3:29:27 AM PDT by expat1000
If you visit Tianducheng, a day trip from Shanghai in Chinas Zhejiang province, you will be confronted by a 354-foot replica of the Eiffel tower.
Development on this Paris replica in China began in 2007, but local media say it is a ghost town now.
Everyone points to Chinas ghost towns as proof of a malaise in Chinas property sector.
But some, like Stephen Roach, former chairman of Morgan Stanley Asia have argued that these cities will become thriving metropolitan areas as China continues to urbanize.
Whats truly quirky about these ghost towns though is that some of them have been designed as replicas of Italian, German, English, and French towns.
We drew on photos from Reuters photographer Aly Song to give you a peek at Tianducheng.
Tianducheng, a Paris replica, began to be developed in China in 2007.
There are more people born in China every year than live in all of Australia. I don’t think that filling “ghost towns” will be a problem.
Chinese knock-offs...twas ever thus.
No....probably not. The only question is whether they’ll continue to look as pristine when those hordes arrive. Doubtful.
China’s got some major population issues - those folks need to read “The Population Bomb” pronto!
Best part about their fake Paris ? No Mohammadans.
“Everyone points to Chinas ghost towns as proof of a malaise in Chinas property sector.”
Coming soon to an America near you. See “Detroit, Michigan”, for example.
What does not appear in this equation is that if indeed the housing here was constructed years ago and has been empty since, is that there is a massive amount of effort to rehabilitate and renovate what amounts to derelict property.
We've seen how occupied real estate in China stands up to the test of time. Imagine if no one maintained it and someone tried to occupy it after 10 years of neglect?
Not a good scenario.
Looks like a great idea for a casino.
That’s so strange. What the heck is this all about?
Movie making? I wonder about this: could it be that it’s so expensive to film in Paris (permits, etc.,), that the Chinese built this as a means to attract American film-makers when they need a location shot? I could imagine it’d be cheaper than going to the real place.
Or the more sinister side of me: after China nukes Paris, they’ll have their own to visit? Yeah, that’s a little dark, ain’t it?
China’s fake urban areas are nicer than our real ones.
>>What does not appear in this equation is that if indeed the housing here was constructed years ago and has been empty since
That’s one thing I question about this article. He says it was *started* in 2007. In the photos it is still under construction. Even if those photos are old, and there is nothing pointing to that, it would have taken 3 years at least to build. So a “ghost town” that is a max of a couple years old? It’s not what I would call a ghost town at this point in time.
These are not being built for the populace, they are sanctuary cities for the coast when things get hot.
Check the proximity of the three major “ghost towns” to Beijing, Shanghai and Hong Kong.
They have been limiting married couples to ONE child for at least 40 years. This has led to huge amounts of female babies being aborted. This is because the father wants a male child to carry on the lineage. Long term this is becoming a problem because there are not enough young women now to match up with the young men.
The desire for a male child has also led to huge market for girl baby adoptions to western families around the world.
On the construction front, most of these fake cities are make work projects. If we build it, they will come(Field Of Dreams). The Chinese middle class can not invest in the foreign stock and bond markets like you and me. They can either stick their money in the bank and make 1% or invest in real estate. All construction projects are managed from a central country wide level to some extent.
I know companies that sell lumber to China. They are not selling to individual companies like the rest of the free market world. They are selling to the government. When they place orders, they literally buy BOAT LOADS(like 200 railcars) or more at a time. They do not build individual free standing homes like we do or most other countries. Only the ultra rich live in stand alone houses. Most people in the cites live in apartment buildings. They are built out concrete and steel. The only framing lumber is used for concrete forming typically. They usually will put wood flooring down. Much of this is made of Bamboo.
The rest of the framing lumber(2x4,2x6,2x8,2x10) is used for two purposes. The high grade lumber is sorted out and goes to furniture manufacturing. The low grade ends up in pallets and crating or packaging. All that Chinese crap at Walmart gets shipped on a pallet or crate of some kind. It adds up to a lot of pallets.
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