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GEORGE W BUSH DECISION POINTS

Posted on 08/27/2013 5:14:47 AM PDT by 7thson

I am about 40 pages away from completing "Decision Points" by President Bush. I voted for this guy - twice. Granted, the choices were stark but I thought he was the best person at the time.

However, I am now wondering what I saw in this guy and why I voted for him.

At the end of this book, he is talking about the financial crisis he states he did not want to be like Hoover but more like Roosevelt. It was this statement and others like it that makes me wonder that the Dems were correct - he is not that bright.

Any comments, opinions?


TOPICS: Books/Literature; Chit/Chat
KEYWORDS: bush; conservative; obama; republican; vanity

1 posted on 08/27/2013 5:14:47 AM PDT by 7thson
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To: 7thson

The only thing I can say in his defense is that he was better than Gore or Kerry and sure as hell would be better than Obama


2 posted on 08/27/2013 5:16:53 AM PDT by Sir_Humphrey (Is it too late to save the country?)
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To: 7thson

No matter how left we place him on the dial, I will always remember him for being a class act. A dwindling attribute.


3 posted on 08/27/2013 5:23:42 AM PDT by deadrock (I am someone else.)
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To: 7thson

That Hoover/Roosevelt comment is shocking. I’m trying to finish the book, too, before visiting his library on Thursday. In spite of everything and especially compared to what we have now, I do miss him.


4 posted on 08/27/2013 5:28:17 AM PDT by MomofMarine
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To: 7thson

At least W is a Christian.


5 posted on 08/27/2013 5:31:46 AM PDT by Spruce
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To: 7thson

I highly admired W for his determination in protecting us from terrorism. That said, his continuing refusal to answer back to his critics and almost complete disregard for addressing domestic threats to our economy, jobs, financial system et al coupled with a coupled of severely egregious decisions (legislatively and organizationally) have pretty much soured my opinion of him.

I will NEVER forgive him for:

“No Child Left Behind” - a faith deal with a murdering womanizing drunkard

“Department of Homeland Security” - failing to install sufficient safeguards to prevent abuse of its powers [see Obama, Tyrant, Maniac]

“Transportation Security Agency” - an organization for which there is no earthly excuse in a free and unfettered society.

“Prescription Medications for Medicare” - as if we don’t have enough debt already.


6 posted on 08/27/2013 5:32:49 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: 7thson
I wish Reagan had picked someone else for VP.

We might have stayed on the road after his fixes instead crashing into the Bushes.

7 posted on 08/27/2013 5:38:48 AM PDT by GBA (Our obamanation: Romans 1:18-32)
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To: 7thson

You need to take his statements in context, rather than take them out of context. And that does not mean you AGREE with whatever decision.

But it will keep you from falling into the pit of misunderstanding even what he was trying to get at, in a fit of pique over what he meant by the words he uttered.

George W is smart as a whip. But let’s face it he’s a mere mortal and doesn’t know everything he thinks he knows just like anyone else. He also has been communication-challenged when he has to get into the weeds of stuff. He tries to simplify and unify things that might be very complex and more disconnected than connected.

Thereby botching the overall impression. Imagine saying he had to violate capitalism in order to save it. Imagine saying he preferred to be like FDR rather than Hoover. But in context, he actually believed the financial system was imploding. His Treasury guy swore it was (Paulson of Goldman Sachs). So he took problematic, massive government actions that we still disagree with to this day, but he believed he had to, right or wrong.

The part about Roosevelt or Hoover was a false choice, but W studied history and you know how historians have presented that false choice. Therefore W could have simply MEANT, if he is to be remembered for a financial implosion, he would rather be thought of as a man of action (Roosevelt) rather than as a man of inaction (as Hoover is painted but again, a false choice, neither Hoover nor Roosevelt fixed anything and both “tried”).

But how easy for you, just start a thread and invite the avid, avowed Bush Bashers to join in...

I don’t agree with a lot he did, I do agree with some of it (tax cuts, open religious faith, immediate response to 9-11) but most of all I agree he came off as a class act and someone who respected the office and the military.


8 posted on 08/27/2013 5:40:21 AM PDT by txrangerette ("...hold to the truth; speak without fear." - Glenn Beck)
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To: deadrock

Bush was a class act. He was a social conservative and wanted to protect America. He told the truth.

I think Bush’s problem was Rove and the estabshment. Like every country club republican, which can also be called a Liberal in Conservative clothing or RINO for those of you in Rio Linda, eventually you have to pay back your benefactors.


9 posted on 08/27/2013 5:41:19 AM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (Make today a great day. Insult a liberal.)
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To: MomofMarine

He is like a hemorrhoid: Pain in the butt when he’s here, but you miss him when he’s gone.


10 posted on 08/27/2013 5:41:33 AM PDT by Vermont Lt (Quis custodiet ipsos custodes? Who will watch the watchers?)
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To: 7thson

The office of President is co-opted by a hidden hand of financial, security and power interests. Each is selected and installed to further a long standing (50 years old or more) strategy for the United States. The complete about faces of both George W. Bush and Barack Obama on foreign policy and foreign intervention should completely confirm this. Both campaigned on non interventionist foreign policies devoid of “Nation Building”.
</tinfoilhatslip>


11 posted on 08/27/2013 5:46:30 AM PDT by Jack of all Trades (Hold your face to the light, even though for the moment you do not see.)
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To: 7thson
People can say whatever they like...however this is how I will always remember the man and I miss having an American loving, American patriot for president. A president that truly loves and cares for America and still loves and cares for the troops. He is a "great American." Hell...George W Bush on his worst day is still a damn far sight better than the train wreck we have as present_dent now. God Bless America and God Bless George W. Bush.
12 posted on 08/27/2013 5:47:57 AM PDT by areukiddingme1 (areukiddingme1 is a synonym for a Retired U.S. Navy Chief Petty Officer and tired of liberal BS.))
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To: GBA

Reagan might not have won without Bush. Establishment Republicans preferred Bush to Reagan in 1980.


13 posted on 08/27/2013 5:55:33 AM PDT by Fernet Branca (I only sext with hotties)
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To: txrangerette

...but most of all I agree he came off as a class act and someone who respected the office and the military.
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I agree with your entire posting, Lady! Dubya still serves through his work with the Wounded Warriors.


14 posted on 08/27/2013 5:56:09 AM PDT by octex
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To: areukiddingme1; txrangerette

“...People can say whatever they like...however this is how I will always remember the man...”

Well said... and thanks for saying it.


15 posted on 08/27/2013 6:02:28 AM PDT by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: GBA

I, too, think Bush Sr. was Reagan’s first and biggest mistake. Second was amnesty for illegals.


16 posted on 08/27/2013 6:14:24 AM PDT by TexasKamaAina
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To: octex

...Who wouldn’t be wounded, but for Bush’s penchant for foreign “nation building.”


17 posted on 08/27/2013 6:17:34 AM PDT by NVDave
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To: Gaffer
I recall in the spring of 2007 the Bush economic advisers were making the rounds on the news talkies. Their talkingpoints theme: the economy is strong.

I thought it rather strange that they were seemingly trying to sell that. It seemed to regular America that the economy was strong. So why the sudden emphasis on ‘the economy is strong’?

Well, a few months later, it became clear. The housing crisis, the banking crisis, etc., started hitting the fan. Then, Team Bush tried to throw money at the problems with bailouts.

Team Bush knew months earlier that the underlying economy was in bad shape. The Bush Team had tried to head off the impending economic crises and get through the 2008 election. They fell short by a year. And Bush was still neck deep in two wars that were growing more costly: Iraq and Afghanistan.

18 posted on 08/27/2013 6:17:59 AM PDT by TomGuy (.)
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To: areukiddingme1
You omitted the pic of Amnesty George carrying the Mexican flag in a parade/demonstration.


19 posted on 08/27/2013 6:21:51 AM PDT by TomGuy (.)
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To: 7thson

Pretty much sums up a thinking persons position.


20 posted on 08/27/2013 6:32:37 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (FROM MY COLD, DEAD HANDS!)
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To: 7thson

dumb like a fox

He is very bright

way more intelligent than the current


21 posted on 08/27/2013 6:33:35 AM PDT by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: TomGuy

Hey...if that is your memory...you remember him that way.


22 posted on 08/27/2013 6:34:18 AM PDT by areukiddingme1 (areukiddingme1 is a synonym for a Retired U.S. Navy Chief Petty Officer and tired of liberal BS.))
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To: Spruce

And the better of the alternative. I do not remember any string conservative candidates that even had a prayer in our jacked up primary system where the NE Rinos and tepid mid-western states get to set the field.


23 posted on 08/27/2013 6:46:02 AM PDT by Resolute Conservative
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To: 7thson

while i do not agree with all of his decisions, all of his policies, i disagree with the libs... i think he is bright...


24 posted on 08/27/2013 6:55:02 AM PDT by latina4dubya (when i have money i buy books... if i have anything left, i buy 6-inch heels and a bottle of wine...)
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To: 7thson

WARNING...RINO/GOP-e BUSH LOVING THREAD AHEAD....


25 posted on 08/27/2013 7:16:59 AM PDT by US Navy Vet (Go Packers! Go Rockies! Go Boston Bruins! See, I'm "Diverse"!)
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To: latina4dubya

Pres. Bush lost me when he signed a bill and said it was not Constitutional and he would let the Supreme Court work it out. (not his exact words) I assume he took an oath to protect the Constitution, but did not do so.


26 posted on 08/27/2013 7:22:58 AM PDT by winkadink (During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act. George Orwell)
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To: 7thson

Sorry but GWB destroyed the GOP. Failure to defend himself and passing big government programs made him worse than any Democrat. Voted for him twice, campaigned for him, stabbed the party in the back.


27 posted on 08/27/2013 7:37:32 AM PDT by lone star annie
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To: txrangerette
A good reply and a nice cheap shot at my expense. Yes, he is a class act and a Christian. A born again Christian, which is why I would never want another born again in office ever. Why? Because they seem to confuse scripture - help your fellow man - by applying that to government, thus creating more debt, government programs, and regulations.

Your post actually reminds me of the recent ABC effort to state what Obama really meant as to what he said, concerning the red line statement. I remember September 2008 extremely well. The government had to do something right now or the economic world would collapse that day. Well, the next day came around and nothing happened. And so it went on like that for a few days.

If "W" is so smart, then he would have known that Roosevelt accomplished nothing. I am not a Bush hater and maybe we would be doing better with someone like him in office now rather than what we have. But don't forget - he is todays Hoover - using the power of government - that led to todays FDR - Obama - abusing the power of government to hurt his enemies.

28 posted on 08/27/2013 8:06:55 AM PDT by 7thson (I've got a seat at the big conference table! I'm gonna paint my logo on it!)
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