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WEEKLY GARDEN THREAD VOLUME 35 AUGUST 30, 2013
Free Republic | August 30, 2013 | greeneyes

Posted on 08/30/2013 1:16:25 PM PDT by greeneyes

The Weekly Gardening Thread is a weekly gathering of folks that love soil, seeds and plants of all kinds. From complete newbies that are looking to start that first potted plant, to gardeners with some acreage, to Master Gardener level and beyond, we would love to hear from you.

This thread is non-political, although you will find that most here are conservative folks. No matter what, you won’t be flamed and the only dumb question is the one that isn’t asked.

It is impossible to hijack the Weekly Gardening Thread ... there is no telling where it will go and that is part of the fun and interest. Jump in and join us!

NOTE: This is a once a week ping list. We do post to the thread during the week. Links to related articles and discussions which might be of interest are welcomed, so feel free to post them at any time.


TOPICS: Gardening
KEYWORDS: agriculture; food; gardening; hobby
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To: JRandomFreeper; sockmonkey; greeneyes; All

Still have some Spring planted arugula growing out back lasting all through the summer. I harvested seeds from the bolted ones and now have seedlings in egg carton shells that germinated in 3 days. Pretty hardy stuff to last so long in high heat. Now I’ll wait to transplant the new seedlings in cooler temps—thanks for all the advice.


21 posted on 08/30/2013 2:23:27 PM PDT by tflabo (Truth or Tyranny)
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To: JRandomFreeper

My wife has three “Earth Boxes” on a cart. She has lettuce growing well into the winter, both fall and spring, as we pull the cart out when possible and into the heated garage when it freezes.


22 posted on 08/30/2013 2:26:05 PM PDT by gorush (History repeats itself because human nature is static)
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To: greeneyes
This weeks pretty photo from the garden:

 photo lilyrose.jpg

23 posted on 08/30/2013 2:26:41 PM PDT by gorush (History repeats itself because human nature is static)
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To: greeneyes; All
And now (cough) for something really different.

The subject: salvia officianalis. The story: raised in largish pot, grew very well, trimmed top leaves and, at 5-6 inches in height, was bushing out nicely on the lower stem.

Transplanted it to about 30" away from my best salvia plant. VERY carefully -- I'd be shocked to find that the roots were damaged in the process (although my x-ray vision is on the fritz...). Saw to it being well-watered for about a week (longer is dubious here, see below), with a bit of 12-24-12.

Temps are 65-80 F., occasionally a little warmer, no 90s (we're up at 2900 feet alt.) Roughly half-sun, half-shade, just as the other plant...and it is now losing its smaller leaves and drooping. No leaf damage from insects. Not dying (yet), but not healthy at all, still making new leaves, though more slowly than before.

The locale: El Valle de Anton, Cocle province, Panama. No frost concerns, ever. June-November is the rainy season here, and it is a typical one; very little add-on watering required in the garden.

Its plant mate (er, so to speak) is just chugging along, very healthy, and should end up being a fine sage plant.

The only garden pests of note are ants and wasps (very benign ones; you leave them alone, they leave you alone). I have not heard of ants chewing on sage roots, but I suppose anything is possible.

Thoughts? Ideas? Outright laughter? All notions appreciated, with the exception that I prefer NOT to use organophosphates for any reason.

Many TIA, gardeners!

24 posted on 08/30/2013 2:34:06 PM PDT by SAJ
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

Air rifles, Eric, m’FRiend...air rifles.


25 posted on 08/30/2013 2:37:12 PM PDT by SAJ
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To: greeneyes; JRandomFreeper; rightly_dividing; Travis McGee; All

Report of marvelous results so far, thanks to four foot long grow lamp.
I planted these seeds last Sunday. Grow lamp stays on until I go to bed, then turn it on when I get up the next day. I planted two paper cups of each variety of seed with several seeds in each cup. If the seed was so small it was almost microscopic, I just put “some” in each one. The seeds that have sprouted and ones that haven’t yet:
Sprouted:
Giant Zinnia – both cups (these Zinnia seeds were sent free to me by a seed company when I bought other stuff from them)
Green Beans – both cups
Lettuce – both cups
Brussels Sprouts – both cups
Cucumber – both cups
Turnips – both cups

Not sprouted yet:
Baby carrots – none
Regular onion – none
Regular squash – none

The Egyptian Walking Onions are now planted in a long planter in the dirt garden. I took out a good part of the regular dirt in the planter and replaced it with fresh potting soil mix. Placed the onions about a foot apart in there, watered it, put row cover over all of it, used metal spikes to secure the cover to the ground up and down the planter so the squirrels can’t remove it.

While I was out there, I opened the envelope of mixed flowers that attract hummingbirds and butterflies, and sprinkled them along the ground in a spot about three feet long, put a dab of dirt on top, watered it and put row cover over that, using the stakes again to secure that one. Those damned squirrels and birds are NOT going to murder what I just did. This is absolute war between them and me and I aim to win, blast their murdering hides.

I have to have more grow bags for these new developing plants, and ordered some cheap ones and they should be here by next week.

The “T” Italian squash in the barrel is about a foot and a half tall, swell looking. The sesame flower plant is over two feet tall. Tomatoes in tomato planter with trellis are fine as well as five others in 5 gal. grow bags. I have another large tomato planter with trellis and I can transplant some of those five if I buy more potting soil which I have to do anyway. Sweet potato plants (3) in 10 gallon grow bag have beautiful lush green leaves just growing every where. I think they would be dead by now if they were in the dirt garden for murdering insects would have already destroyed them. A pox on garden dirt insects.

Strawberry plants in little pots still haven’t come – need to contact that company.

That’s all from Marcella’s Food Plant Container Farm :o)


26 posted on 08/30/2013 2:39:37 PM PDT by Marcella (Prepping can save your life today. I am a Christian, not a Muslim.)
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To: greeneyes

That almond plant. Is it supposed to be a large tree or a regular plant?


27 posted on 08/30/2013 2:44:05 PM PDT by Marcella (Prepping can save your life today. I am a Christian, not a Muslim.)
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To: Red_Devil 232

Well that’s good to know.Thanks.

Now, do you know: We planted what was labeled as almonds. The fruit now looks like peaches. Is that normal for the almond tree to have fruit that looks like peaches?


28 posted on 08/30/2013 2:56:55 PM PDT by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: sockmonkey

If you are going to be saving heirloom seeds, you can make your own seed tape. It’s pretty easy. You can use paper towels or toilet paper.

Put a length on the table and mark with dots next to the spot for a seed. Put down the seeds,Use a paste of flour and water to glue the tape on each side of the seeds, and fold over the half of the paper and secure with the paste on each side of the seed as well as the edge.

Proceed to plant just like the ones you buy.


29 posted on 08/30/2013 3:02:06 PM PDT by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

Well, yes that’s true for many of us. I was just talking to friend of ours on Wednesday. They totally ravage her garden-she lives out of town in the woods. Nothing has worked so far that she has tryed.

We are just a mile out side of town and close enough that we just don’t have problems with deer. We do have the smaller varmits and critters. The worst of which is a family or two of coons.


30 posted on 08/30/2013 3:05:27 PM PDT by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: tflabo

I have lettuce ready to harvest the seeds that I need to get to soom also.


31 posted on 08/30/2013 3:06:50 PM PDT by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: gorush

Thanks for sharing. Love those pics of flowers.LOL


32 posted on 08/30/2013 3:07:57 PM PDT by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: tflabo
Still have some Spring planted arugula growing out back lasting all through the summer.

Probably eight years ago, I had arugula that went to seed. It was like dandelions all over the yard for about three years. I kept thinking..At the grocery store, this would be about 800 dollars worth.

Since, to me, arugula doesn't taste that good, I was not unhappy when it finally got killed off by the drought.

33 posted on 08/30/2013 3:08:49 PM PDT by sockmonkey (Of Course I didn't read the article. After all, this is FreeRepublic..)
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To: greeneyes

I’m encouraged to order the Starks one then. It’s supposedly useable as both. You eat the peaches and then you can eat the pits/almonds too.


34 posted on 08/30/2013 3:10:21 PM PDT by Black Agnes
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To: tflabo

I got lettuce to sprout one year when it was really hot still by planting it inside. Once it sprouted I put it outside in the shade/dappled sun under a tree.

YMMV.


35 posted on 08/30/2013 3:11:33 PM PDT by Black Agnes
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To: greeneyes

Here’s the one I was thinking of:

http://www.starkbros.com/products/fruit-trees/apricot-trees/stark-sweetheart-apricot


36 posted on 08/30/2013 3:16:24 PM PDT by Black Agnes
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To: SAJ
I own a .50 cal air rifle. It will punch a .495 round ball clear through most any critter it encounters, east-west or north-south.
37 posted on 08/30/2013 3:20:54 PM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks ("Say Not the Struggle Naught Availeth.")
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To: Black Agnes

Yep Aggie—I think thats gonna fly with me too. I have an east facing window for morning sun and got some lettuce seedlings there. I was going to direct plant to the soil and use the seedlings as a backup. Upon johnny’s advice I will wait for cooler temps instead of this North Tx oven. I’m about to plant Black Seeded Simpson lettuce seeds in another egg shell carton. First time but I read and hear its a pretty good hardy producer of loose leaf lettuce. It goes under the shade tree in the ring below too.


38 posted on 08/30/2013 3:24:38 PM PDT by tflabo (Truth or Tyranny)
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To: tflabo

The red lettuces are also hardy.

Here’s a list of hardy winter temps and veggies that can take it:

http://www.southernexposure.com/southern-exposures-fallwinter-gardening-guide-ezp-38.html

Scroll.


39 posted on 08/30/2013 3:26:12 PM PDT by Black Agnes
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To: Black Agnes

“Here’s the one I was thinking of:”

I just read that and, according to the species, they grow from 12 to 20 feet tall and they are wide.

It says the “hull” that peach looking outer “fruit” is discarded when they harvest the almonds. Are they discarding something good to eat because they just want almonds and nothing else?


40 posted on 08/30/2013 3:27:27 PM PDT by Marcella (Prepping can save your life today. I am a Christian, not a Muslim.)
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