Skip to comments.Beware: Ex Military Soldier’s Survival Plan Is “To Hit Preppers”
Posted on 08/30/2013 4:46:16 PM PDT by Jed Eckert
One of the tenets of long-term preparedness is something we refer to as Operational Security, or OPSEC. The goal is to build our stockpiles, strategies and friendships without the knowledge of the general public, or in many cases, even our neighbors or acquaintances.
Because when it hits the fan, and there’s no food in grocery stores and violence erupts all around us, we’ll have the supplies to survive and the defensive initiative to protect what’s ours. The last thing we want is for those who failed to heed the warnings, to come knocking on our doors looking for handouts or a place to weather the storm. The fact is, our supplies are limited, so operating on the down-low is an important strategy to ensure our safety in the midst of disaster.
But taking the time and effort to plan effectively is not the only strategy being implemented by those who expect the worst.
There are those out there who have a different idea of how they’ll acquire necessary supplies should the system as we know it destabilize.
And that plan is to come for what you own.
Southern Prepper explains how your operational security may have already been compromised, and shares a story from one “prepper” who is planning on taking advantage of those who had the foresight to ready themselves.......snip........
(Excerpt) Read more at shtfplan.com ...
What will the ex-civilian soldiers do?
My prepper plan involves my small community banded together for common defense.
Somebody just posted a link to a list of VHF/UHF radio frequencies and on the sidebar was a “3-3-3” Preppers Radio Plan”, which instructed preppers to turn on their little FRS or GMRS handie-talkies for 3 minutes at the top of every 3rd hour. Since most of them won’t be able to resist blathering away, that means about 5 minutes after the top of every 3rd hour, the bad guys with radio direction finders will show up to shoot them and take their stuff.
A film with obvious professional production values does not impress. It’s propaganda and is worthless.
LOL. That can definitely happen...
There are lots of Mormon “preppers” around here. But a lot of them are heavily armed.
Is he/she a Bradley Manning or Nidal Malik Hasan type veteran?
What was that old survivalist joke?
Best survival tip, large weapons, lots of ammo and the local Mormon Church directory.
Is there anything you don’t know?
OPSEC just went-up 3 levels...
A good prepper is prepped for guys like this, too.
Well, I won’t be reading that guys crap anymore. Why is he picking on the most loyal and trained sector of the community? I can see taking the stuff of a creep like him. Gang members will come to a house and kill whoever and take what they want. That is how a lot will operate. Ex military and government employees are trained and can protect themselves. Don’t say I am going to steal your stuff!
I did. Quite often, and had loads of fun. Still have fond memories -and as someone who started out adding channels to old CB radios to get them in the new 40ch band, had lots of transceivers to play with over the years.
Agreed. And anyone who has any discipline whatsoever regarding his/her transmissions will not be caught this way very easily.
Foxhunting is done on a known freq using a continually or frequently transmitting beacon.
It isn’t as if most people have the type of equipment it would take to identify, isolate, and DF an individual transmitter quickly and accurately enough for this to work.
“Somebody just posted a link to a list of VHF/UHF radio frequencies Somebody just posted a link to a list of VHF/UHF radio frequencies”
Keep in mind, those are all VHF/UHF frequencies, and have very limited range, unless going through a repeater that could most likely be out of service when really needed.
Even with repeaters, the range is generally limited to 50 miles, or less.
HAM operators will be best at being able to communicate over great distances, and with the expertise, as they have a host of short wave and VHF bands with various characteristics. DE W4EX
he’s not saying anything new. there are people of all walks whose planning is to be well-armed and when they need stuff, go and take it from others. some based on their past training are in better positions to do it and succeed, than others - if they have this mindset. sad to say many people would develop this mindset over time as stuff gets desperate. some will get really, really good at it.
Back just before Y2K, I sat in a cube next to a young black, kinda yuppie.
He laughed at the thought that us white folk had stockpiled. His idea was simple: “SHTF, I go an boost a NINE an come to your place an take what I need.”
My reply: “Come and get it. Oh BTW, I don’t use a NINE, I use an ‘06.”
Well, that was just one puzzled black man.
Then his bud clued him in: “You NEED to unnerstan, white folk don’t use handguns man, they standz off about 2, 3 hunnert yaaads, and jus whack you in the haid, you never see um commin!”
Next thing I know, I’m getting pelted with questions about which is the best all purpose hunting rifle around.
It was funny.
Unless you have the mindset of the type of person he’s talking about, it’s hardly a personal attack on you. he’s not saying all government folks will 100% do this for sure. he’s’saying there will be some from this group and because of their training they’re gonna be very nasty to deal with.
more so than the average fat joe schmo who didn’t prep and thinks I’ll just take something from my neighbors and get in their face and get what i want.
i woudn’t have told him squat about rifles.
‘Ex Military Soldier’—as differentiated from say, an ex Christian soldier?
You and me ... counting LSB and HSB I had LOTS of channels above below and in-between. I became an electrical engineer due to the CB craze
Why is he only picking on ex military? Gang members would be more of a problem. Ex military are more likely to band together and organize a community for common protection and help those in need. This jerk must be quite liberal and think untrustworthy. People where I live come together in time of need. I would trust him as much as a gang thug.
Upper side band
Oh, and hands down favourite chip: PLL02A. The UPD858C and MB8709 tied for second place. Lots of potential in them and easy to convert to the 10m band for the Hams that were interested.
Roger all, Alex, and that was the upshot of my comment on that thread. V/UHF range will be reduced to 1/2 to maybe 10 miles with an HT and outside antenna after the ham and GPRS repeaters go down as a consequence of a major SHTF event. In fact, most of the digital trunked land mobile systems will go down too, since not all of the P25 and such systems have back up power (or a way to sustain generators, etc). Ironic, since those systems were mandated by DHS for “interoperability”.
At the end of the day it will be guys with HF know-hoe, solar chargers, and a few wires in the trees who will be able to communicate. I was half joking, but if I were a bad guy, I’d sure use FRS to offer “free food” and let the victims guide the wolf to their door.
I don’t really buy this, because veterans are usually aware that teamwork can pay much better dividends than individual aggression.
A cardinal rule of a defensive position is that, unless you are improving your position, you are wrong. This means that even if you are fulled prepared, if you just sit still and eat your rations, you are fouling up. Wasting time that can be productively used to continue to sustain yourself—extending your time window until you have critical needs that you cannot meet.
SHTF means hard work, and it doesn’t matter how much you have prepped.
So let’s say this veteran needs food. Instead of trying to steal yours, he can get a much better deal working with you to get more food. If he brings in more than he eats, you both win.
Don’t focus on shortage. Focus on abundance. If you have boucoup food, and he is willing to do hard labor for it, it may well be worth it. Comparative value.
Back when I was in high school & listening to short wave radio, a Radio Moscow broadcast boasted about their Young Pioneers conducting “foxhunts” using DF steering devices.
It seemed like purely militarized training when as Boy Scouts we were camping out & playing “capture the flag”.
Hadn’t heard of “foxhunts” from then until now. What a lot of these Nat Geo preppers need to do is keep their big mouths shut.
Seen the “drawbridge castle” latest episode?
I don't think he was depicting all ex military like this. However there will almost certainly be some who will be a major problem. If you think otherwise you haven't been paying attention. Remember Christopher Dorner?
Living in the middle of a well prepared community, I’d at least have the advantage of hearing the gunfire exchange between the intruders and my neighbors.
I haven’t had a television for 25 years (of course I was raising and homeschooling 4 kids) but still...
Bewdy! Same here. Then there was CW for the modified Ham trancievers, FM and NBFM or PM. Of course, I NEVER *cough* modified any transmitters for ditital comms or freq-hopping capabilities. That would be illegal. Kind of like Linear Amps were. But I had lots of fun and we had lots of frequencies to talk on... *grin*
“USB”. Yeh, no worries. I understood the keyboard slip in your post as soon as it came up. I type too fast here as well sometimes.
Open ended statements leave lots of room for misunderstanding. John the traitor Kerry accused all veterans of being baby killers and war criminals. I see this as the same way. If he meant something else he would have qualified the statement.
it is probably because few have thought of this possibility, and apparently he had it brought to his attention that at least one ex-mil person’s idea of shtf prep was to do this. he has already talked at length about all kinds of others doing this, most notably criminals, but also regular people you’d normally not expect threats from. i believe this is just an extension of the articles of “those you may not expect attacks from”.
” Radio Moscow broadcast boasted about their Young Pioneers conducting foxhunts”
Pioneers are the Russian version of boy/girl scouts.
Ham radio was quite big in the old Communist countries.
I have cards from more Communist countries then any others.
I was trying to collect at least one card from each Russian Oblast, which is something like a cross between state and county.
Their cards were often soft propaganda. My favorite is the card with a picture of A.S. Popov, the Russian inventor of radio. Sputnik was also a popular theme.
I'm more concerned about the Christopher Dorner types.
From the comments at the site I am not alone. I hope in the future he does a better job of writing so as not to alienate people.
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