Skip to comments.Questions About Breaking Bad
Posted on 09/02/2013 10:50:34 AM PDT by RetSignman
I have a couple of questions about Breaking Bad.
First after Walter returned to the remains of his former home and removed the Risin(?) from the electrical outlet.
I must have missed an episode when he planted there and for what reason.
Second the Ricin cigarette when Jesse went nuts after he discovered it was missing from his getting out of dodge attempt.
Who made it and what was it made for...suicide if caught?
Foreshadowing. Watch the final final episode for the answer....
He hid the Ricin cigs a while back. I forget who made them. I think maybe Walt did and was going to use them on the guy that gave him the Walt Whitman book but Jesse killed him before he had a chance.
I didn’t see last nights episode, but last week it seemed to me that Jesse realized Walt or the lawyer had tried to kill him by giving him the poison cigarette, although I didn’t catch how he knew that.
Also, who is the young kid who died from poisoning and who killed him and why?
Walt made the Ricin to kill Gus, but the plan fell through, Jesse messed up again!
Jesse’s new drug addict girlfriend’s kid.
Check this link out
I’m a bit confused too - will look over that link ;)
Walt’s tragic flaw is that, for some reason, he lets Jesse live. Skylar knows the score and what needs to be done. She has a real dark side and is a better criminal than Walt.
Walt made the cigarette for Jesse to give to Gus (the original distributor of their ice and cartel lackey), as Gus was always trying to find ways to kill them. It didn’t work because Jesse couldn’t find the moment. Finally, Walt had to actually poison Jesse’s girlfriend’s son with the ricin, in order to bring Jesse into the hospital, where he would be safe from Gus, as Gus was trying to actively kill him. As well, that way, Walt could kill Gus, as he did when he literally bombed the nursing home room where Gus was visiting the old cartel stroke victim guy there.
I recently changed to Roku and had a Breaking Bad marathon to see what the hoopla was about. I quickly got “hooked” and have watched all episodes available. Walt’s character is jumping the shark to me. I may yet kick the habit.
Okay, I thought it might've been Gus.
What makes Walt interesting is the intersection of his humanity and the criminal monstrosity in his soul. It can and will only end both poorly and well for him....
Walt didn’t poison him with the ricin. He poisoned him with the Lily of The Valley, which was in his backyard in a pot. Thats why he ditched it will all of the rest of the bomb evidence. He had Saul’s henchman lift the ricin cigarette off of Jesse so that he could turn Jesse against Gus.
Walt made the ricin powder for Jesse to kill Gus but Jesse could not do it.
Sauls bouncer dude pick pocketed it out of Jesses cig pack when he was in Sauls office. It was later given to Walt.
Walt off camera apparently made up some concoction from a Lily Of The Valley plant and off camera poisoned Jesse girlfriends little boy in order to convince Jessee that Gus deserves killing.
Walt then put the ricin in the electrical outlet cover plate in their bedroom, obviously for future retrieval.
The kid survives and Walt thinks all is cool, and it is until Jessee figures it out after the bouncer dude rips off his dope from his pocket in Sauls office.
But didn’t one of the investigators tell Jesse it wasn’t Ricin?
He did not not poison Brock (the boy) with Risin. He used a plant with red berries from his back yard. He did it to make Jessie feel guilty and to draw him closer again. (They allude to this when Walt has dinner at the boys home and sits next to him. The boy gives Walt a shy/scared look.)
Walt had Hughel(sp?)lift the deadly cig from Jessie’s pack and replace the pack. Walt then put the risin capsule behind the plug cover for future use.
On orders from the lawyer, later Hughel lifted the MJ from Jessie. When Jessie goes to light one up and sees the joint is gone, but the pack is still in his pocket, he figured out how he “lost” the Risin and went ballistic.
I am going to have to watch it all again to catch up. I know I missed something.
Walt's descent into evil is the center of that story. He isn't "jumping the shark", he is getting frantic because the walls are closing in --- he's been found out and retribution is on the way. I don't believe, at this point, that Walt is mentally stable, and I fear he will do anything to get away with it. Last night, Jesse lamented that Walt, "always gets away with it -- he can't always get away with it."
Now that Jesse is on team Hank, I think things are going to get very interesting.
I’m still trying to figure out how Jerry’s dentist could go so wrong. Was it the conversion to Judaism?
Thanks for the link, I think that explains things as good as it can be explained.
Obviously, I’m going to have to pay more attention to dialogue and action which are not completely obvious.
The female of the human species is the more lethal when things get existential.
She has a real dark side and is a better criminal than Walt.
Hey, Uncle Leo also went bad, in “The Outlaw Josey Wales”.
Yep, but Jesse is PO’d because he finally figured out that Walt used him and poisoned Brock, the little boy.
Im still trying to figure out how Jerrys dentist could go so wrong.
Last night on Talking Bad, Skylar said that Gilligan (writer/producer) made it very clear that he did not want Skylar to be a victim. He wants her to be “Mrs. Heisenberg”.
Walt and Jessie made the ricin in season 1 and spiked some meth with it to kill Tuco. The plan didn’t work as it made the meth smell bad and when Jessie tried to explain why (chili powder) Tuco wouldn’t snort the meth since he hated chili powder.
Walt didn’t poison the kid with ricin.
He used oleander. His intention wasn’t necessarily murder. The conclusion of season finale closed on an oleander plant in Walt’s possession.
Brock did not die and was not poisoned with ricin but with "Lily of the Valley."
Covering my ears; we’re only up to the 3rd season!
you missed too much to answer all that
watch and you’ll see
everything is interconnected
Good point, but it was Lily of the Valley, not Oleander. The Ricin cigarette was meant for Gus, but Jesse thought it poisoned the kid? Also, the kid didn’t die, but I can’t remember what happened to the girl and the child, I think Jesse gave them money to disappear?
I must be so stupid because I think that Walt isn’t pure evil! Last night, he was going to explain to Jesse why he had to poison Brock, right? That guy Jesse thought was a killer was just a daddy dude at the mall right? Help me out here!
“I must be so stupid because I think that Walt isnt pure evil!”
Ah, and that’s the hook. That’s what I liked about The Shield, The Wire, and Rogue. You get to know the characters and then the lines become blurred about what is right and what is wrong. Do the ends justify the means? The way these producers bring out the moral dilemmas is brilliant.
Not long after, Brock, the young son of the woman Jesse was living with, fell mysteriously ill. Jesse abandoned a meth cook in progress, putting him in peril of being killed by Fring.
Jesse soon realized that the capsule of ricin Walt gave him was missing from his cigarette pack and thought Brock might have accidentally consumed it, thus putting the boy's life in jeopardy.
Walt though convinced Jesse that Fring was responsible for Brock's illness as a warning to Jesse. This helped Walt convince Jesse that Fring had to be killed, which Walter did using a bomb. Walt also feared that Jesse might consolidate his relationship with Fring, making Walt disposable as a meth cook.
In the most recent episode, Jesse realized that he did not misplace the ricin capsule but that Walt had Saul's bodyguard, Huell, lift his pack of cigarettes in order to take the ricin capsule. Jesse thus realizes that he was played by Saul and Walt in order to help pit him and Fring against each other.
The true dimensions of Walt's cleverness and wickedness is also now better recognized by the viewers. We realize that Walt did in fact poison Brock, not with ricin, but with an extract from Lily of the Valley, a popular but highly toxic ornamental plant that was identified by Brock's doctors as the cause of his poisoning.
Walt no doubt carefully calibrated the dose and selected that toxin because children are known to sometimes eat the red berries of Lily of the Field, thus providing a ready explanation for Brock's poisoning.
Moreover, in order to cover his tracks, Walter planted the missing capsule of ricin in Jesse's Roomba vacuum cleaner, then pretended to discover and dispose of it in Jesse's presence. In truth, Walt kept the capsule of ricin against a need to use it some day. In retrieving the capsule, Walt obviously intends to poison someone.
Like Jesse, the Breaking Bad audience is now forced to reevaluate his prior conduct and recognize that he is far more clever and sinister than he seemed.
You are clearly an anti-dentite.
he genuinely’does care abut jesse. it’s showing a person who is capable of awful things is capable of love and care for others. loyalty to someone. jesse did save him, and walt also saved jesse before. it’ real all the stuff they went thru. while walt needs him gone, trying to get out of town, it would have also at the same time been good for jesse to get out of town and start fresh somewhere else.
no,they told him it wasn’t ricin.
there’s no cure for ricin poisoning. kid would have died.
the popularity of series based on drug dealers and serial killers does not bode well for our civilization. When people go see a movie like “Saw” and laugh, they show their true natures.
No, what doesn’t bode well for our society is when people can’t tell the difference between reality and a TV show.
u r correct. I was wrong.
The OP said "Really? Thats (Unemployment Compensation) doomed business? Mind explaining exactly how that mechanism works?" To which you said, "The question was about unemployment. No one said anything about "doomed" business."
The idea that you can separate the two, a "doomed" business and unemployment, is laughable. UI may doom a percentage of businesses but hardly the cause of a majority or even a plurality.
Doomed businesses cause unemployment. I really don't see how you continue to separate the two.
Really? The poisoning of a child (Brock). The lies to his family members. The murder of Gus Fring. The murder of Mike. Talking Jesse into killing Gale. Just whistling after the young boy on a bike is gunned down by Todd. None of these things say "pure evil" to you?
He didn't start out that way; but, boy, he sure has descended into the darkness, and he seems to like it.
enjoy the show.
Yay! A Breaking Bad thread! I was a little confused over the ricin cigaret as well. I’m just gonna watch and let it
all play out.
As for the characters, I don’t really enjoy Walt anymore.
It made no sense to me for him to screw up the arrangement
they had with Gus, although the storyline had to move along.
I can’t stand Skylar, and I miss Gus and Mike. I’ve always
been partial to Jesse. I just started watching it this year,
binge watching till I got caught up. I’m ready for it to end
Well at least you agree with me that it’s a dilemma! The killings were awful but he could justify all of them as “necessary”, and, he was mostly killing “bad guys”, the boy on the bike was horrible but quite an “accident” from that loose cannon Todd. Walt does care for Jesse doesn’t he?
Yes, but this is not at all like the Saw movies (didn’t see them but my kids did and I read about them) BB isn’t slasher porn. It is dark, though, and I had to stop watching it for awhile, but it’s just so darn well done, it truly is amazing to watch.
I think because Walt still thinks of himself as a decent human being. I know, Skylar! However, a mother will go to unimaginable lengths to protect her children!
Show ends this way: Todd and gang kill Walt and Jesse and perhaps more. Much the same fate as Gus Fring. Hank Shrader is clueless to actually how this went down and is further clueless about the power structure involved, same as he was clueless with Gus Fring. The series will end, Hank is clueless, Todd and Gang are the new Meth King Pins of New Mexico, but Hank doesnt quite know this yet. End of Series
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