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Posted on 09/02/2013 1:52:31 PM PDT by QQQQ

European disgrace

Op-ed: After shirking its duty to prevent use of WMDs, Europe has lost its right to lecture anyone – especially Israel


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KEYWORDS: europeanunion; germany; greece; iran; israel; lebanon; maheralassad; potassiumfluoride; russia; sarin; sodiumfluoride; spain; syria; thebrotherdidit; unitedkingdom; waronterror

1 posted on 09/02/2013 1:52:31 PM PDT by QQQQ
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To: QQQQ

http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4425313,00.html


2 posted on 09/02/2013 1:52:57 PM PDT by QQQQ
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To: QQQQ

Syria is not a colony of Europe nor of the US.

What they do with their own people is none of our business.


3 posted on 09/02/2013 1:57:52 PM PDT by Jim Noble (When strong, avoid them. Attack their weaknesses. Emerge to their surprise. N)
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To: QQQQ

“After shirking its duty to prevent use of WMDs”

How did that become Europes duty ??


4 posted on 09/02/2013 1:59:54 PM PDT by Jim Noble (When strong, avoid them. Attack their weaknesses. Emerge to their surprise. N)
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To: QQQQ; Jim Noble

Its Israel,s neighbour, not ours, why don’t they do something about instead of demanding that we do?


5 posted on 09/02/2013 2:31:23 PM PDT by sinsofsolarempirefan
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To: QQQQ

Not to worry.

After Congress turns down Hussein’s request for war — France will go in unilaterally and take out Syria’s WMDs.

/s


6 posted on 09/02/2013 2:31:53 PM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both.)
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To: sinsofsolarempirefan
Its Israel,s neighbour, not ours, why don’t they do something about instead of demanding that we do?

Because God wants America to. Or so I've been informed.

Foreign entanglements is comical tragedy.

7 posted on 09/02/2013 2:42:22 PM PDT by James C. Bennett (An Australian.)
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To: QQQQ

Short and succinct. That’s what you thinks, and no reason to burden us with reasons.


8 posted on 09/02/2013 2:43:43 PM PDT by Oztrich Boy
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To: James C. Bennett

Gen Marshall warned the US when the US backed partition of Palestine into a Jewish state. One cannot create a homeland from Arab occupied land with a claim that it was a Jewish homeland 1700+ years ago and not expect trouble when you fill it with Holocaust refugees from Europe after WW2. Ever since 1948 the US got deeper and deeper into the ME morass culminating into an attack on the US on 9/11. It is not even fair for the Jewish people to take them from a Holocaust and settling them onto a piece of land surrounded and outnumbered by hostile Arabs. In 1948 the Jews spin Israel as a land without people for a people without their own land to justify the partition. In 2013 I will modify the spin with a fact, Israel is land where the world took them from one Holocaust and placed their future generations into another one. Now the US is broke and her forces/people worn out from imperial wars and ironically Obama wants us to get involve in Syria.


9 posted on 09/02/2013 2:55:24 PM PDT by Fee
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Makes a great thesis-antithesis-synthesis though, if you’re a new world order type.

Took decades and a World War for the original plan to turn into a new nation, but NWO is patient.

I think the answer is - there is no answer.

NWO has given the world a political conundrum.


10 posted on 09/02/2013 3:14:15 PM PDT by PieterCasparzen (We have to fix things ourselves)
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To: Fee
In 2013 I will modify the spin with a fact, Israel is land where the world took them from one Holocaust and placed their future generations into another one.

Another fact for you to chew on: By 1948, Jews owned and held clear title to 99.2% of the land that is now Israel.

11 posted on 09/02/2013 3:14:43 PM PDT by okie01 (The Mainstream Media: IGNORANCE ON PARADE)
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To: okie01

True. My family bought land in Palestine in 1920’s from arabs. Unfortunately no documents left after WWII.


12 posted on 09/02/2013 3:46:20 PM PDT by QQQQ
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To: okie01

Buy land from some rich Palestinian landlord, then kick all the Arab tenants off the land for Jewish refugees. Legal types discovered many Arab living under Ottoman rule never had a title system to register ownership. When the British took over, the Jewish settlers quickly used British law to register claims on lands already occupied by Arabs, so the Jews registered the land under British laws and used that pretext to throw the ignorant Arabs off as squatters. Talk about laying the seeds for hostility and conflict. Once the Jews got their hands on the land, the instruction was simple, sell it no one except fellow Jews. If Mexicans arrived in the US with the same attitude and brought most of the land in SW US and then applied to the UN to separate from the US we would be up in arms. The Jews did the same to the Arabs. Eventually all this will be settled with the force of arms. At least the US got the British to acknowledge our independence and nullify any future claims on US. The Arabs did not do this in 1948 to present. Since they have the numbers, now technology, and a fanatical faith to motivate them, there is going to be nothing but bloodshed and wars and the US will suffer its blowbacks as we struggle to maintain our PetroDollar status (defender of Saudi Arabia) and at the same time counter our favor in the Arab world (Saudi Kingdom) by supporting Israel.


13 posted on 09/02/2013 3:58:07 PM PDT by Fee
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To: Fee

So your solution to all this is for the Jews to return to Europe? Or wherever...???


14 posted on 09/02/2013 4:03:20 PM PDT by okie01 (The Mainstream Media: IGNORANCE ON PARADE)
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To: Fee

Yes. That entanglement is what was specifically warned about. So much accrued damage in so little time...


15 posted on 09/02/2013 4:50:14 PM PDT by James C. Bennett (An Australian.)
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To: okie01

Ergo, the conundrum.

Once a nation has been around for number of decades, it’s no longer practical to simply call “do-over” and “uncreate” the state.

The area was under Ottoman rule, then came WWI and it came under British control. Right away in November 1917 there was the Foreign Secretary Balfour’s “Declaration” laying the groundwork for the creation of the State.

Forty years later the State of Israel is created - and now 60+ years after that - the Ottoman Empire no longer exists and the UK does not want to take on the area as part of it’s territory. So there’s no recent legitimate regime to roll back to if the State of Israel is “undone”. A nation that’s been around for 60 years would just be shut down ? Doesn’t sound legitimate. Power would be handed to ____ ? Power would be handed to a new world order puppet, for sure. But I doubt NWO wants that because they want the conflict to continue.

New world order set up a situation that eventually would lead to two opposing sides in a conflict from which there’s no easy exit.

New world order, besides “running” the UK, “runs” the US, and manipulates and uses the Jewish-American population - like all other segments of the American population - very effectively. The plan was always to have the victorious Anglo-American military weight after WWII back the State of Israel. American media, education and the upper part of “society” are under the control of the (truly atheist) new world order and reliable keep public opinion whipped up against arabs and supporting Israel. When you look at history as an American, and see muslims generally hating the US and Israel and Jews being generally friendly towards the US, it’s the only logical way to feel. This is why muslim terror attacks are a helpful tool to new world order. If there was no war on terror it would be a whole different American political landscape.

Unfortunately, the muslim terror groups we see today are actually new world order tools. British intelligence basically created MI6, Saudi and the other US-friendly arab states intelligence services are basically a subsidiary of the CIA. Those muslim countries on the “Russian team”, notably Iran, have terror groups that roll up into that leadership hierarchy - but of course they don’t know it.

The arrangement allows Russia and the UK/US/Euro official governments to remain far, far above and far away from the dirty nasty terror work, so much so that those governments can actually be waging a war with them officially. The Iranian-backed groups generally go against Israel and the Saudi-backed groups generally go against the US and Europe and Russia. Russia has plausible deniability from direct involvement with Hezbollah, the US and UK have plausible deniability from direct involvment with AQ, MB, Hamas, etc. Never mind that big, fat, huge amounts of foundations, money, political influence, think tanks, high society buddies, etc., are flourishing and have deep roots in both the US and UK (where they’re actually peers, part of the aristocracy). “Darn it, somehow we keep trying to track this terrorist money and we just can’t seem to connect the dots.”

The terrorist foot soldiers think they are reporting to Saudi or Iranian masters, when, in reality, they’re all reporting to the same international banking masters.

That’s the part that sounds like such a crazy conspiracy theory and it’s hard to accept without understanding just how ruthless new world order leadership is. They are the “fabian”, “eugenicists”, etc. They are off-the-hook evil.

To put that into perspective - they financed and backed Hitler and the Nazi regime - convincing him that they wanted him to run Europe and giving him full support to go to war. And they had no problem at all with all the millions of consequent deaths. Just because they wanted to have the nations accept the United Nations and a war was the only way they thought it would be accepted.


16 posted on 09/02/2013 5:02:44 PM PDT by PieterCasparzen (We have to fix things ourselves)
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And I suppose the Garden of Eden was nothing more than a plot by "the international banking masters", intended to create a New World Order.

Whew! I opened up the wrong door altogether...

17 posted on 09/02/2013 5:09:23 PM PDT by okie01 (The Mainstream Media: IGNORANCE ON PARADE)
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This was already posted on FR back in ‘04, interesting read.

http://www.fas.org/irp/congress/1992_rpt/bcci/


18 posted on 09/02/2013 5:30:15 PM PDT by PieterCasparzen (We have to fix things ourselves)
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To: okie01

It is too late to send them anywhere. US has a moral obligation to them because we help create them.
Setting emotions aside, here are the strategic facts, 300M Arabs vs 6M Isreali Jews. Arab have North Africa to Iraq and Arab peninsula and Israel is the size of NJ. Now Iran will build their nuke. It is no longer the question of sending the Jews back to Europe, it is the question of how long will Israel exist once all Islamic resources are marshaled against her?


19 posted on 09/02/2013 5:59:19 PM PDT by Fee
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It is no longer the question of sending the Jews back to Europe, it is the question of how long will Israel exist once all Islamic resources are marshaled against her?

Two things:

1. "All Islamic resources" will probably never be marshaled against her. Coordination and cooperation are not necessarily Arab strengths.

2. Israel has developed a remarkable capacity for taking care of herself.

20 posted on 09/02/2013 7:31:12 PM PDT by okie01 (The Mainstream Media: IGNORANCE ON PARADE)
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how long will Israel exist once all Islamic resources are marshaled against her?

and European and likely American resources too at some point. Islamists are terrible at coordinating with each other but they have found leftists eager to bend over for them.

21 posted on 09/02/2013 7:32:55 PM PDT by GeronL
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