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1 posted on 09/04/2013 4:39:49 AM PDT by A Cyrenian
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They are already talking about a “committment” months long, not days or weeks. No, this is an open ended military involvement and the lemmings in the congress are lining up behind it. I think they should all take an oath which says if we don’t accomplish this objective, they quit and forego their benefits.


2 posted on 09/04/2013 4:42:39 AM PDT by Mouton (The insurrection laws perpetuate what we have for a government now.)
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The Boy King is poking a hornet’s nest with just a little stick. What could go wrong?


3 posted on 09/04/2013 4:43:14 AM PDT by txrefugee
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Well since there’s no goal, purpose or objective, how can it be a failure?

It’s one or two cruise missiles aimed at some Syrian DOD office building. The only way it fails is if the things don’t explode.


4 posted on 09/04/2013 4:45:44 AM PDT by babble-on
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It won't fail. You are just confused about the objectives.

1. Allow Obama to say he did something bold.

2. Provide the media a stage prop to declare, “Obama took bold decisive action, but only after the kind of careful deliberation that is normally associated with Solomon or a Greek hero.”

As long as he launched one missile, he will achieve #1 and #2.

6 posted on 09/04/2013 4:46:40 AM PDT by SampleMan (Feral Humans are the refuse of socialism.)
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If Obama gets approval for his limited strike and it doesn’t accomplish what they think it will. What happens then?
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First what do they think it will accomplish?

The bombing is only being done to save Obama’s face.
Will it accomplish that?

If the bombing helps the Muslim Brotherhood it only accomplishes placing Sharia law in another country and getting the Christians there killed.

Do we really want to replace Assad with something worse like we got in Egypt?

The bombing might really start a hot war, is that an accomplishment?
Russia might intervene is that an accomplishment? Are the unknowns really worth the risk to save Obama’s face, when the rest of the world is already laughing at this fool?


8 posted on 09/04/2013 4:48:16 AM PDT by Venturer ( cowardice posturing as tolerance =political correctness)
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Obama has been a failure ever since he was elected, especially in the foreign policy area.

Yet he still shepherds the flock of the faithful and is never held accountable for anything that goes wrong. This won’t be any different.


9 posted on 09/04/2013 4:51:02 AM PDT by randita
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are these insane idiots going to push forward and attack Syria believing there won't be any consequences or risk of a major war ?

psychopaths are leading this country into something that is clearly not in our interests to say the least.

10 posted on 09/04/2013 4:52:16 AM PDT by kingattax (America needs more real Americans.)
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I don’t want this un-American assman “leading” us anywhere, no less to war. He’s an incompetent CIC surrounded by islamist facilitators all the way down the line.

NO!


11 posted on 09/04/2013 4:55:17 AM PDT by onedoug
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There is no such thing as a “limited strike”. An authorization by Congress is the equivalent of a declaration of war. It will involve the United States in a prolonged bloody Mideast quagmire. Boehner can then weep real tears for the deaths he could have prevented. Obama, the narcissist, will blame others. Also this stupidity is also partly the result of the Joints Chief of Staff devolving into just another politically correct office staffed by toady careerists,


12 posted on 09/04/2013 5:00:04 AM PDT by allendale
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It doesn't matter WHAT happens; the State-Run-Media will credit the Nobel-Prize-Winning Messiah with success, brilliance, etc., etc.

There is NOTHING that he can do or say that will be criticized or condemned.....

13 posted on 09/04/2013 5:00:33 AM PDT by traditional1 (Amerika.....Providing public housing for the Mulatto Messiah)
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They’re lying. They have every intent of getting troops on the ground and and once the boots are on the ground congress will continue to fund them for the next decade.


15 posted on 09/04/2013 5:05:31 AM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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“It’s a trap!” Famous quote by (appropriately) Admiral Akbar. The inevitable failure of the strike or failure to support one will be squarely blamed on the political opposition.


16 posted on 09/04/2013 5:10:12 AM PDT by edpc (Wilby 2016)
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it has failed before it started.

he’s basically said “what where when why” to them giving them plenty of time to prepare and move things.


17 posted on 09/04/2013 5:16:33 AM PDT by cableguymn (The founding fathers would be shooting by now..)
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It won’t “fail”. It will do exactly as Barry wants it. It’s all to show that he wears big boy pants.


18 posted on 09/04/2013 5:19:29 AM PDT by caver (Obama: Home of the Whopper)
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Will ol' big ears get in front of the cameras and tell us

Of course not - one of the several great things about government jobs is NEVER having to admit you made a mistake. (Along with spending OTHER PEOPLES' hard earned money and Never having to face any consequences for your actions no matter how idiotic).

Whenever some idiotic idea that comes out of government fails (as most of them do) what so you hear the politicians and bureaucrats say? You never hear, "We did the wrong thing." No, what you hear is, "We didn't go far enough." If doing X amount of something makes things worse then somehow doing 10 times X will magically reverse the effect instead of making things ten times worse. It defies logic. I can't determine if the morons that our ignorant stupid electorate elects to represent them really believe this or that they're cynically posturing for the true believers who constitute their base.

19 posted on 09/04/2013 5:24:26 AM PDT by from occupied ga (Your government is your most dangerous enemy)
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I guarantee you a limited strike would be a failure. That it would not accomplish what obama claims to want to do. It might put a crimp in operations over there for a while, but a strike would anger Russia and China. They would soon make good any of Assad's losses.

Anyone remember Vietnam? The limited, micromanaged bombing camaign? Remember how well gradual increases worked? How stopping and starting on a whim only gave them chances to rebuild defenses? There is only one good way to run a war, and a nearly infinite number of ways to screw it up. obama seems determined to screw up.

20 posted on 09/04/2013 5:24:38 AM PDT by ThunderSleeps (Stop obarma now! Stop the hussein - insane agenda!)
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A symbolic strike such as the one contemplated is a failure by definition.


23 posted on 09/04/2013 5:29:29 AM PDT by NonValueAdded (Henceforth, the Office of the President shall be known as IMPOTUS)
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We’re protesting the hell out of it, yet the boy king is hellbent on poking that hornet’s nest.

Fine.. let him and his party absorb the facial stings. There will be many.


25 posted on 09/04/2013 5:36:37 AM PDT by ScottinVA (Obama is so far in over his head, even his ears are beneath the water level.)
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It will be Bush’s fault.


27 posted on 09/04/2013 5:38:26 AM PDT by HapaxLegamenon
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What is the objective? obama, we need at least one clear military objective to any operations. You give the men and women who do this for a living a clear objective and I guarantee you they will come through for the US. Wether or not the operation achieves your political goals, that’s on you. Without a clear objective, this is just obama the petulant throwing a snit on the world stage. A snit that is going to cost lives and risk others.


28 posted on 09/04/2013 5:43:06 AM PDT by ThunderSleeps (Stop obarma now! Stop the hussein - insane agenda!)
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