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Familiar territory: Haven't we been here before?
Jewish World Review ^ | September 5, 2013 | Paul Greenberg

Posted on 09/05/2013 1:18:56 PM PDT by Idaho_Cowboy

This is where we came in. For we've seen this movie before, or rather this all too real, all too familiar tragedy. And travesty. In the Korean War and Stalemate, for painful example, the military objective became not victory but an unending, inconclusive draw -- day after bloody day. And year.

After a dramatic end run -- the master stroke that was the Inchon Landing, Allied troops led by American forces headed for the Yalu and the liberation of all the Korean peninsula. But on the verge of victory, the military calculus was turned upside down by the massive intervention of well-prepared, well-supplied troops pouring into the battle from Red China -- in what seemed infinite numbers.

The armistice in Korea was achieved within months of Dwight D. Eisenhower's inauguration as president and commander-in-chief of the country's armed forces. That armistice now has lasted half a century, however precariously at times. Leadership can be all in these dangerous matters.

Vietnam would provide an even starker and longer example of the toll that indecisive leadership can take year after terrible year.

Now, once again, an uncertain trumpet is sounded. A president and supposed commander-in-chief has invited Congress to set military policy. Just as it finally did when the war was in Vietnam, cutting off supplies and air support, leaving the forces of freedom defenseless.

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I personally think Obama wants to set no goals so he can declare victory no matter what happens. The world may not listen to what he wants to happen though, and thinks could escalate very quickly.
1 posted on 09/05/2013 1:18:56 PM PDT by Idaho_Cowboy
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To: Idaho_Cowboy
I personally think Obama wants to set no goals so he can declare victory no matter what happens.

That being the case he could avoid going to war entirely, and still say that he's won it. And thus the war effort itself is merely the evening's entertainment.

2 posted on 09/05/2013 1:29:04 PM PDT by Alex Murphy (Just a common, ordinary, simple savior of America's destiny.)
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To: Alex Murphy
That being the case he could avoid going to war entirely, and still say that he's won it. And thus the war effort itself is merely the evening's entertainment.


Quite true. Anything to distract a media that desperately wants to be distracted from all of the scandals the administration is involved in.
3 posted on 09/05/2013 1:34:15 PM PDT by Idaho_Cowboy (Ride for the Brand. Joshua 24:15)
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To: Idaho_Cowboy
After a dramatic end run -- the master stroke that was the Inchon Landing

It was indeed a master-stroke, but it also could have very easily been an utter disaster.

Allied troops led by American forces headed for the Yalu and the liberation of all the Korean peninsula.

This is also what is known as becoming greatly over-extended. Which is helped by ignoring those who point out that this is what is happening.

But on the verge of victory, the military calculus was turned upside down by the massive intervention of well-prepared, well-supplied troops pouring into the battle from Red China -- in what seemed infinite numbers.

As should have been, and was, foreseen by many. That Allied troops were "surprised" is astonishing. The Chinese did exactly what they said they would do, but we greatly underestimated their capability to do it.

And the Chinese troops were not all that well supplied.

4 posted on 09/05/2013 1:35:58 PM PDT by Sherman Logan (Mark Steyn: "In the Middle East, the enemy of our enemy is also our enemy.")
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To: All
http://thinkprogress.org has a real time updated survey...

House of Reps survey - Syria

Yes/Lean Yes - 43
No/Lean No - 212
Unknown/Undecided - 178
vacancies - 2

Needed to pass or fail 217...Five more no votes and Scooby Doo will say, "Ruh Roh"
5 posted on 09/05/2013 1:41:03 PM PDT by BigEdLB (Now there ARE 1,000,000 regrets - but it may be too late.)
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To: Sherman Logan
Yep and Douglas MacArthur had a solution which his bosses were unwilling to let him use: tactical nukes to seal the Norkies supply line at the Yalu River.

Remember, we had a monopoly on nukes at the time. It wouldn't have been a perfect solution, but it was a hell of a lot better than the current result.

6 posted on 09/05/2013 1:51:37 PM PDT by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: BigEdLB

“Five more no votes and Scooby Doo will say, “Ruh Roh”

I wish it was Scooby Doo, he at least can figure out right from wrong.


7 posted on 09/05/2013 1:53:46 PM PDT by foundedonpurpose (It's time for a fundamental restoration, of our country's principles!)
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To: Vigilanteman
Remember, we had a monopoly on nukes at the time.

Not exactly. The Chinese attacked at the end of 1950, and the Russians detonated their first Bomb in August of 1949.

We no doubt had more, bigger and better Bombs, but we didn't have a monopoly.

8 posted on 09/05/2013 2:03:24 PM PDT by Sherman Logan (Mark Steyn: "In the Middle East, the enemy of our enemy is also our enemy.")
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To: foundedonpurpose

It is a real time update 44 Yes 213 No....


9 posted on 09/05/2013 2:13:20 PM PDT by BigEdLB (Now there ARE 1,000,000 regrets - but it may be too late.)
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To: Idaho_Cowboy

Good article.

As one who has lived through many wars, I say ENOUGH ALREADY!


10 posted on 09/05/2013 2:14:43 PM PDT by miserare (Fire Eric Holder!)
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To: Idaho_Cowboy

Wondering why we are focused in discussion of yeah, or nay on this “war” rather than impeachment? Perhaps THAT is the diversion.


11 posted on 09/05/2013 2:33:30 PM PDT by rockinqsranch (Dems, Libs, Socialists, call 'em what you will. They ALL have fairies livin' in their trees.)
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To: BigEdLB

I believe Obama wants congress to turn him down. This is why Nancy and Boxer and Durbin voted “no”. They’re counting on the mean old republicans to bail them and Obama out. They should vote present and let the democrats have it. If the majority of the “yea” votes were to be from the democrats, Obama wouldn’t know whether to s... or go blind.

Isn’t it funny that when Obama ran out of people to blame he started blaming the entire world. And if this is approved it will be the Obama AND the republicans against the world.


12 posted on 09/05/2013 2:45:52 PM PDT by VerySadAmerican (".....Barrack, and the horse Mohammed rode in on.")
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