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Iran military journal eyes nuclear EMP attack on U.S.
WND ^ | 4/29/2005 | Josef Farrah

Posted on 09/06/2013 11:42:33 AM PDT by EBH

In an article titled, “Electronics to Determine Fate of Future Wars,” the journal explains how an EMP attack on America’s electronic infrastructure, caused by the detonation of a nuclear weapon high above the U.S., would bring the country to its knees.

“Once you confuse the enemy communication network you can also disrupt the work of the enemy command- and decision-making center,” the article states. “Even worse today when you disable a country’s military high command through disruption of communications, you will, in effect, disrupt all the affairs of that country. If the world’s industrial countries fail to devise effective ways to defend themselves against dangerous electronic assaults then they will disintegrate within a few years. American soldiers would not be able to find food to eat nor would they be able to fire a single shot.”

WND reported the Iranian threat last Monday, explaining Tehran is not only covertly developing nuclear weapons, it is already testing ballistic missiles specifically designed to destroy America’s technical infrastructure. The report was published first in Joseph Farah’s G2 Bulletin, a premium, online intelligence newsletter by WND’s founder.

Pry pointed out the Iranians have been testing mid-air detonations of their Shahab-3 medium-range missile over the Caspian Sea. The missiles were fired from ships.

“A nuclear missile concealed in the hold of a freighter would give Iran or terrorists the capability to perform an EMP attack against the United States homeland without developing an ICBM and with some prospect of remaining anonymous,” explained Pry. “Iran’s Shahab-3 medium range missile mentioned earlier is a mobile missile and small enough to be transported in the hold of a freighter. We cannot rule out that Iran, the world’s leading sponsor of international terrorism might provide terrorists with the means to executive an EMP attack against the United States.”

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Very old article, but this crossed my mind today. Just thinking about some of the potential consequences and while we're looking at Syria....are we watching the rear?
1 posted on 09/06/2013 11:42:33 AM PDT by EBH
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To: EBH

If they are going to do it, the time is when Obama is President. He will likely have a confused and contradictory response, whatever the crisis.


2 posted on 09/06/2013 11:46:26 AM PDT by PGR88
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To: EBH

Totally impossible.
To generate a large EMP pulse you need to detonate a multi megaton warhead about 200 miles above the USA.

A simple 10k atomic bomb wouldn’t do anything.


3 posted on 09/06/2013 11:49:47 AM PDT by Zathras
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To: EBH

Everyone please voice your comments on the current gutless GOP to the Speaker at: 202-225-0600; press 1 to get a staffer.


4 posted on 09/06/2013 11:51:10 AM PDT by ExTexasRedhead
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To: EBH
Oh yeah, I wonder if they know about our top secret laser satellite weapons?

Actually I have felt like Iranians and others have been trying to bait us into a war for several years. This would seem like a good time to take us on because our government is in disarray, our military is diminished, we don't have any money, and our people are tired of war.

5 posted on 09/06/2013 11:54:48 AM PDT by oldbrowser (We have a rogue government in Washington)
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To: Zathras
A simple 10k atomic bomb wouldn’t do anything.

On the Potomac?

/johnny

6 posted on 09/06/2013 11:55:31 AM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: EBH

They are stupid. Most of our military assets are EMP hardened and they would only affect civilian infrastructure. Like another poster said it would take and extremely large blast from high altitude (or many spread out in unison). They are smart enough.

That said, I only hope that if that ever happened to us that our current leader, whomever that is, would have the nerve to do it to the world and level the playing field so we are not vulnerable because our leader is gutless.


7 posted on 09/06/2013 11:58:18 AM PDT by Resolute Conservative
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To: EBH

M.A.D


8 posted on 09/06/2013 12:00:27 PM PDT by B212
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To: Revolting cat!
I'm waiting until I hear it from DebCo.


9 posted on 09/06/2013 12:05:58 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (America 2013 - STUCK ON STUPID)
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To: EBH
Before Iran gets two licks in it will be Russia and China vs. U.S.
10 posted on 09/06/2013 12:07:27 PM PDT by CMB_polarization
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To: Resolute Conservative

If you wipe out the civilian power grid of a major city that would be disruptive enough.


11 posted on 09/06/2013 12:09:45 PM PDT by sinsofsolarempirefan
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To: EBH

EMP can work in both directions, who will it hurt most? What we need is a EMP that works on the brains of the Mullahs that were brought into Iran by Khomeini. Then again they are already burnt out.


12 posted on 09/06/2013 12:14:33 PM PDT by Bringbackthedraft (Remember Ty Woods? Glenn Doherty ? Forgot already?)
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To: Zathras

Even then you run not only have the inverse square limitations but also it’s not like we’ve done a whole lot of real world testing of nuclear generated EMP on modern electronics. Sure, some satellites get cooked, radio communication gets screwed for a while and maybe some power grid damage. Better bang for the buck would be lots of homebrew flux compression generators.


13 posted on 09/06/2013 12:21:34 PM PDT by Orangedog (An optimist is someone who tells you to 'cheer up' when things are going his way)
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To: Zathras

“Totally impossible.
To generate a large EMP pulse you need to detonate a multi megaton warhead about 200 miles above the USA.”

The Russians could do it. Obama is well beyond his level of competence.

When fools elect fools to represent them, can calamity be far away?


14 posted on 09/06/2013 12:24:14 PM PDT by awaken2spirit (When one fornicates with ignorance, the result of that union is chaos.)
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To: Zathras

“200 miles above the USA”

The NK “weather” satellite is still up there. It passes over the US every day.


15 posted on 09/06/2013 12:32:53 PM PDT by Selene
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To: Zathras

Actually not really.

40-400 KM high depending on nature and gamma yield of the device. 40 KM is barely 26 miles high. That puts it above the earth’s magnetic field which is about 20-40KM. Nuclear EMP is part of the “Compton effect”. Compton scattering is of course the interaction between the nuclear event and the magnetic field.

Near-surface detonations are localized of course WRT EMP. Interestingly intermediate altitudes don’t induce the Compton effect (the accelerator and expander of the pulse) due to atmospheric absorption of energy.

100 kilotons @ 40 KM would do the trick, line of site, inverse square rules in effect. Larger and higher just extends the line-of-sight effects and intensity.

Multiple fission/fusion devices, lower altitudes would easily disable/disrupt infrastructure serving the population centers of the US along the coasts.

Take a look here and here:

http://www.fas.org/nuke/intro/nuke/emp.htm
http://www.thespacereview.com/article/1549/1

EMP nukes are gamma ray optimized as opposed to ‘blast’ yield optimized. The Gamma rays induce high energy electrons through interaction/excitement of/with the Earth’s magnetic field to produce the HEMP and SHREMP which peaks in nanoseconds and lasts about one millisecond. Secondary effects may last for more than a second, and these are more like a lightning strike— induceing current (E2) in very long electrical conductors (electrical and phone lines, rail lines, similar).

What’s debatable is the direct effects of nuclear EMP on modern devices.

BUT, we have a ‘thin blue line’ of sorts in our just in time world, and a three-day or three week shutdown of say just15% of critical infrastructure is likely to have DEVASTATING effects on our civility. ESPECIALLY if it’s our electrical and transportation infrastructure.

p.s. — to agree with your post - a very high altitude, multi-megaton burst, gamma ray-optimized gizmo puts us back in the 13th century for years, and the Iranians can’t yet get there.


16 posted on 09/06/2013 12:38:47 PM PDT by Blueflag (Res ipsa loquitur: non vehere est inermus)
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To: EBH
Iran military journal eyes nuclear EMP attack on U.S.

History and experience teaches us that the ummah still exists in the 7th century, so their collective dogma and memory should never be dismissed.

The good news is, that they will only get one chance, at their choice of collective suicide.

17 posted on 09/06/2013 12:57:21 PM PDT by publius911 (Look for the Union label, then buy something else.)
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To: Zathras
Totally impossible. To generate a large EMP pulse you need to detonate a multi megaton warhead about 200 miles above the USA.

True, but misleading.

I don't know the math, but the exact same effects over much smaller specific areas are possible. If I remember right, in the past there have been tactical (battlefield) EMP weapons studied and tested.

Also true, is that to render an area the size of the US,Russia, South America or Africa is unpractical.

Plus, I am sure that the universal sandmaggot rules for the entire universe, the queeran, somewhere must contain the prohibition about exploiting physical laws discovered and exploited by unbelievers...

18 posted on 09/06/2013 1:05:17 PM PDT by publius911 (Look for the Union label, then buy something else.)
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To: All

Gee, I thought their nuclear program was for peaceful purposes.


19 posted on 09/06/2013 1:42:25 PM PDT by Walvoord
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To: Blueflag

It would have to be done at night for long range emp for the solar wind on the dayside thins out the magnetic field lines of force on the day side, squashing more of the field to the night side. Hence reduced propagation effects on the day side meaning, you’d have to explode emp devices closer to the surface on the dayside to get any emp at all.


20 posted on 09/06/2013 1:47:33 PM PDT by mdmathis6
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To: sinsofsolarempirefan; Resolute Conservative

I went through the outage a few years ago here in Ohio, when the whole east coast and parts of Canada went down due to squirrels chewing on the lines....

I guess that was my wake-up call to be prepared ...and yeah...take down the grid say in NYC, LA, or Chicago life might be interesting for quite sometime.


21 posted on 09/06/2013 1:49:07 PM PDT by EBH (America is not judge, jury, and executioner for the world.)
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To: EBH

It wont make a difference if they can shut down the grid or not.

You touch off a nuke over the US, damage or no damage, there will be mass panic and every city in the US will try to evacuate at the same time.

You get over 100 million people on the move at the same time and this country is on it’s knees.


22 posted on 09/06/2013 2:57:19 PM PDT by IMR 4350
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