Skip to comments.Man owed $134 in property taxes. The District sold the lien to an investor who foreclosed
Posted on 09/07/2013 11:27:30 PM PDT by RC one
On the day Bennie Coleman lost his house, the day armed U.S. marshals came to his door and ordered him off the property, he slumped in a folding chair across the street and watched the vestiges of his 76 years hauled to the curb.
Movers carted out his easy chair, his clothes, his television. Next came the things that were closest to his heart: his Marine Corps medals and photographs of his dead wife, Martha. The duplex in Northeast Washington that Coleman bought with cash two decades earlier was emptied and shuttered. By sundown, he had nowhere to go.
All because he didnt pay a $134 property tax bill.
(Excerpt) Read more at washingtonpost.com ...
Just goes to show. You don’t really own your property.
Gee, who runs the District?
It also goes to show to what lengths a tyrannical government will go to to squeeze the life blood out of its citizens when its failed policies finally catch up to it. and this is just the beginning of the fall. If you think it’s going to get better, you are deluded. This is why they need to disarm us and this is why we don’t let them. What good can a handgun do against an Army?
Part of the problem is that the sale isn’t drawing sufficient public attendance.
The tax sale to collect unpaid taxes should only focus on the unpaid debt, then return the balance of the sale to the owner.
Instead, it appears the winning bids at the tax sale are unduly low, giving the winner an exorbitant profit by flipping the property ASAP, and the value of the property is harvested by the tax sale bidder, without recourse of the original owner to collect his equity.
King James Version (KJV)
14 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye devour widows’ houses, and for a pretence make long prayer: therefore ye shall receive the greater damnation.
the owner, apparently, owned the house outright. The article says he paid cash for the house 20 years ago.
And where were his elected representatives?
Where was the DA? this is a crime.
Where is elder abuse services?
That was insane... the punishment was over the top.
What a pathetic article trying to blame the business people who bought the liens. This is an issue of the DC government and it wont be fixed because the reporter is either too biased or dumb to see the problem is the DC government.
Clearly the DC government does not care in the least what happens to these people. If they did they would require the business people who buy the liens to transfer everything above the amount of the lien and reasonable costs to the property owner. But instead DC only cares about getting more cash to buy votes. After all the property owners must be evil, they own property.
If I were that 76 years old man, I would have paid my property tax. Then I would not have lost everything dear to me through my own inattention or procrastination.
Sure, the story is sad, but it could have so easily been avoided. How many demands for payment did he ignore?
Punishment? Representatives? This was no punishment, it was just wolves dining on a sheep and the representatives are the wolves.
I’d have just killed them.
Agreed, but he is still liable for the tax lien.
The local government usually has mechanisms to enforce their property taxes by selling a deed to the property to collect taxes.
The tax lien is generally considered the primal lien on real estate.
As the full owner, he simply had a debt to be paid off.
The remaining equity in the house should be his property.
It appears he lost it because the winner of the tax sale, didn’t pay but a fraction of the real estate value. The government probably returned the balance of that sale to the original owner, but the balance wasn’t for the full market value, as the property was sold within months for hundreds of thousands more than the tax sale.
The local courts will likely enforce the sale as publicly valid, in order to remain solvent.
IMHO, his best recourse is a civil suit against the winning bidder for the balance of their sale minus the value of their work to sell the property.
In California, the state has the burden of proof for one year to show the taxes hadn’t been paid and the real value had been properly transferred.
The city, using armed and amrored agents of the government, stole a man’s private property, sold it to another individual or group of individuals, and then left the man homeless over a $134 debt. That is ****ing tyranny staring you right in the face my FRiend.
It could have been avoided if the house was in TX..If you're over age 65, they don't kick you out of your house for not paying your property tax..
The debt accrues with interest..If you don't pay it, and you die, your heirs can pay it. if they wish to retain the property.
Yes, but then you’d be responsible to pay off the fees for the burial permits. If you didn’t pay, then the IRS could audit you. ;^(
These crooks file their liens legally. But they work through loopholes and most of the homeowners didn’t know they owed the taxes. And if you did pay your taxes it’s your job to prove it. It’ll be like dealing with a debt collector. There’s nothing you’ll able to say that will convince them you’re telling the truth.
Right, and you know the county got more than $134 from the sale. So what happens to the rest of the money? Free profits for the government from stealing the property of the citizenry.
There are multiple interests involved. All of them legitimate. It’s a well studied aspect of property law. The same consequences occur without any tyrannical involvement.
Freedom without authority is anarchy. Authority without freedom is tyranny.
Bought and paid for . . .NOT . . . with property taxes we do not own anything, we just make huge security deposits and pay rent to the real owner the government. Don't pay the rent and we loose the property and the deposit.
Sure, the story is sad, but it could have so easily been avoided. How many demands for payment did he ignore?
From the article: Coleman, who struggles with dementia...
Yes we can own the property. There also are multiple interests and liabilities involved and it might take adjudication to discern who is the proper prevailing interest and how that is quantified.
This is the kind of thing that separates the sheepdogs from the sheep.
Wait to see what happens when the IRS places liens on us for not buying Obamacare.
Maybe then we will get up out of our Lazy Boys, turn off dancing with the stars and retake this nation.
Not unusual for people o old age to forget or mismanage.
I know one guy was on a wheel chair and the same happened to him because he missed the hearing as there was no handicap ramp. That is right, somehow courthouses get away without them. He committed suicide.
I once went to a hearing. When I checked why I lost the claim, the record indicated I had skipped it.
Government is evil. It does not repurchase lives, it lies and destroys them
People need to get a grip about what is going on.
You know they are goingfo come. They already confiscate passport for child support, same for obamacare support.
Real Estate means Royal (Government) Lands.
negative. In a legitimate government, a man doesn’t lose his home over a $134 tax bill owed to a local municipality. It is tyranny. But feel free to justify it however you like if it makes it easier for you to accept it. I pity the fools that come to my home when I’m 76 years old and tell me to to GTFO.
We are all accountable when we disrespect legitimate authority. If one uses deadly force to disobey legitimate authority, then the state is authorized to enforce the law by deadly force.
ridiculous. you own property yet the state takes it from you over $134 bucks. like they have the right to sell your house from under you. incredible times.
When you defend your property from rapacious Government YOU are the legitimate authority.
Did your Founding Fathers teach you nothing?
Don't be analytical and actually think about the facts.
You're supposed to work yourself up into a lather, put on your internet tough guy mask and boast about how you are morally entitled to commit murder if you don't pay your bills.
Clearly you think this whole "conservatism" thing is about taking personal responsibility for your own actions.
It's obviously about rehearsing childish revenge fantasies in your head instead. Don't you get it?
Disrespect legitimate authority? Ha! The legitimate authority that puts a 76 year old veteran on the street after stealing his private property and selling it to someone else over a $134 tax bill can kiss my ass in hell. How’s that for respect?
Assuming the authority is legitimate. On the one hand, Jesus specifically taught us 1) to pay our taxes, and 2) he himself would help us come up with the money (the coin fish). On the other hand, Augustine points out that a human law which runs contrary to the divine law has no legitimacy. Immoral law is really anti-law. And any law or system of laws which can result in this kind of inequity is clearly immoral. Someone was unjustly enriched at the expense of another. This is an ancient principle of the common law. Forfeiture as a penalty, especially for minor infractions, has long been frowned upon. The tax sale loophole is relatively modern and a clear departure from the old equities that gave the common law its moral force, I.e., its legitimacy. It cries out to be fixed. Especially where mental competency is at issue. I applaud Texas for their effort to get back on course.
You ruined everything by actually reading the entire Constitution, and the Federalist Papers too.
Madison, Hamilton and Jay just jawboning on and on about the executive enforcing the laws, having a nation of laws instead of men, elected governments having the power to levy taxes and suppress insurrections - and all that boring grownup stuff.
It's so much cooler to fantasize about doing whatever you want and then going on a rampage when someone tells you there are consequences.
Do you really think millions of Americans are amassing massive stockpiles of weapons and ammo so we can all look at them sitting in the safe? Think again a little more analytically. It's just a matter of time.
I assume you’re texting this from your car, because you’re driving over there right now to teach those JBTs a lesson, right?
our forefathers would have started shooting 20 years ago.
They just shot people randomly all the time, I'm sure.
But you aren't, apparently.
Why is that, exactly?
what good would that really serve?
shot people randomly? who is talking about shooting people randomly besides you? You are attempting to change this dialogue to something that it is not. I have merely stated that were I, hypothetically, a 76 year old man being forced onto the street over a $136 tax bill, like Bennie Coleman, I would have killed them . The fact is, what I’m really saying is that I surely wouldn’t have faulted Mr. Coleman if he did, in fact, start shooting as I feel he would have been justified and were I on his jury, he would walk. I have no desire to kill anyone but, at the same time, I have no problem seeing the agents of a tyrannical government dieing as they impose the will of the tyrannical government on the people. No problem with it all. and neither did our forefathers.
That isn't how it happened.
They fought a war, quite formally, with rules of engagement and as much of the eighteenth century niceties as they could muster.
Then, almost as soon as they were finished, they put down the Whiskey Rebellion.
It wasn't until the Jackson administration that civil bankruptcy laws replaced civil imprisonment as the remedy for defaults in many states.
That's right, civil imprisonment.
They we denied the right to elect their representatives. You are not.