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Cardinal Dolan: Congress Must Pass 'Once-in-a-Generation' Immigration Reform
Breitbart.com ^ | 09-07-13 | Tony Lee

Posted on 09/08/2013 7:15:30 AM PDT by NoKoolAidforMe

The head of the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops said Congress must seize on a "once-in-a-generation" chance to pass comprehensive immigration reform when it comes back from its August recess next week.

Writing in the New York Daily News, Timothy Dolan, who is also archbishop of New York, invoked Pope Francis and Martin Luther King, Jr. in arguing that immigration reform would help families and the economy while improving the country's security.

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TOPICS: Miscellaneous; Religion
KEYWORDS: amnesty; cardinaldolan; catholicchurch; catholicism; illegalimmigration; popefrancis; romancatholicism
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1 posted on 09/08/2013 7:15:31 AM PDT by NoKoolAidforMe
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To: steelhead_trout

Ping


2 posted on 09/08/2013 7:17:39 AM PDT by NoKoolAidforMe (I'm clinging to my God and my guns. You can keep the change.)
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To: NoKoolAidforMe
Cardinal Dolan: Congress Must Pass 'Once-in-a-Generation' Immigration Reform...

Your Eminence, no it must not. Stick to church matters please.

3 posted on 09/08/2013 7:18:39 AM PDT by Rummyfan (Iraq: it's not about Iraq anymore, it's about the USA!)
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To: NoKoolAidforMe

Anyone getting tired of these so called Catholic leaders demanding the US congress break the law?


4 posted on 09/08/2013 7:19:28 AM PDT by svcw (Stand or die)
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To: NoKoolAidforMe

Dear Cardinal,

Will all due respect, stay out of Ceasar’s realm.


5 posted on 09/08/2013 7:19:31 AM PDT by Kolath
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To: NoKoolAidforMe

When’s Biden showing up for communion?


6 posted on 09/08/2013 7:19:39 AM PDT by onedoug
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To: NoKoolAidforMe

So the Church rolls over on Obamacare and same-sex marriage, but pushes amnesty.

Congratulations Dolan. You have jumped the shark.


7 posted on 09/08/2013 7:20:48 AM PDT by NoKoolAidforMe (I'm clinging to my God and my guns. You can keep the change.)
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To: NoKoolAidforMe
How would immigration *reform* help American families, our economy and our country's security?

I see it helping Mexico's/Latin America's families, economy, etc.

Why don't the Amnesty pushers call for better living conditions (freedoms, etc.) in Latin American countries?

8 posted on 09/08/2013 7:21:14 AM PDT by Jane Long (While Marxists continue the fundamental transformation of the USA, progressive RINOs stay silent.)
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To: onedoug

This morning along with Pelosi, Kerry, Cuomo and half the Kennedy family.


9 posted on 09/08/2013 7:21:45 AM PDT by NoKoolAidforMe (I'm clinging to my God and my guns. You can keep the change.)
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To: NoKoolAidforMe

Once in a generation? There was 1965, then 1986 and they tried hard to do it in 2006. And they want to do this “once in a generation” just one more time? Are they really that hard up for new members?


10 posted on 09/08/2013 7:23:06 AM PDT by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: All armed conservatives.)
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To: tumblindice
Are they really that hard up for new members?

This is exactly what is driving this push. More new members, more bodies in the pews, more donations. It is as simple as that.

11 posted on 09/08/2013 7:28:14 AM PDT by JohnG45
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To: NoKoolAidforMe

The Cardinal needs to stick to his job which is saving souls and leading the church leaving politics out of it. He wants to aide lawbreakers who go to church and tell the Lord they love him, and they walk out of church and steal money from American citizens with welfare and other freebies their own country would not give them.

Do your job Cardinal and when you finally come face to face with the Lord he might just let you stay.


12 posted on 09/08/2013 7:30:53 AM PDT by mardi59 (IMPEACH OBAMA NOW!!!!!)
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To: NoKoolAidforMe

How I wish Archbishop Fulton J. Sheen was still around.


13 posted on 09/08/2013 7:31:23 AM PDT by goodwithagun (My gun has killed fewer people than Ted Kennedy's car.)
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To: Rummyfan; svcw; Kolath

It isn’t that the Church doesn’t have the right to speak on this subject. It’s that Dolan and many other bishops are WRONG on this subject.

The teaching of the Catholic Church is that immigrants have an obligation to respect the “spiritual heritage” and traditions of the host country. But immigrants to the U.S. DON’T respect these things: They overwhelmingly vote for the most anti-Christian, anti-life, anti-Constitutionalist politicians.

Nobody has the right to enter another country and then overwhelmingly vote to put baby-killers into public office.


14 posted on 09/08/2013 7:32:15 AM PDT by Arthur McGowan (If you're FOR sticking scissors in a female's neck and sucking out her brains, you are PRO-WOMAN!)
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To: tumblindice

Just as it has been in the past, this is about opening the doors for more Roman Catholics. He would not be calling for it if the nations south of the border were overwhelmingly Protestant.


15 posted on 09/08/2013 7:33:41 AM PDT by .45 Long Colt
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To: Arthur McGowan

He can speak about whatever he wants, and I will call him out when he is advocating breaking the law.

Wouldn’t his words be better used to raise the living stands of the countries mentioned, instead of advocating the destruction of America.


16 posted on 09/08/2013 7:37:16 AM PDT by svcw (Stand or die)
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To: Kolath

Caesar was Pontifex Maximus of the State Religion of Rome, just as every pope has been.


17 posted on 09/08/2013 7:38:07 AM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: markomalley

Ping


18 posted on 09/08/2013 7:41:50 AM PDT by NoKoolAidforMe (I'm clinging to my God and my guns. You can keep the change.)
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To: RegulatorCountry

And Rome still believes herself above all the kings of the earth.


19 posted on 09/08/2013 7:44:07 AM PDT by .45 Long Colt
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To: NoKoolAidforMe

Shut your stupid mouth, cardinal.


20 posted on 09/08/2013 7:46:11 AM PDT by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: .45 Long Colt

It is that but more so the Jesuits particularly and much of the Catholic church are infected by liberation theology and marxism to the point of no return. It is about destroying national sovereignty to aid bringing about world socialism and world government. For the same reason the Catholic church would support the FSLN in Nicaragua to the point of allowing the Pope to visit where he was lucky to not have been killed on the spot. Ideologically many can’t help themselves even if the outcome is anti-Christian and suicidal.


21 posted on 09/08/2013 7:53:21 AM PDT by Sheapdog (Chew the meat, spit out the bones - FUBO - Come and get me)
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To: chris37

I agree with the good Cardinal. Let’s start by enforcing the current laws, get a very big wall built, with a moat filled with I’ll tempered sea bass with laser beams on their frikin heads and the deportation of every illegal alien who is serving a sentence in a US prison and their families.

Then and only then should we have this discussion.


22 posted on 09/08/2013 7:54:13 AM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (Make today a great day. Insult a liberal.)
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To: JohnG45

We’ve heard the term ‘nativist’ before, applied generally to anyone who opposes “undocumented immigrants.” Setting aside the movie “Gangs of New York” I suppose if it applies at all it would be here.
But it doesn’t. If the Catholic church wants to pay for these new members, they can sponsor them and post bonds; if not, they can go pound sand.


23 posted on 09/08/2013 7:55:16 AM PDT by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: All armed conservatives.)
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To: Sheapdog

I don’t disagree. Do you think the Jesuits long game is to put the pope over this world government?


24 posted on 09/08/2013 7:58:24 AM PDT by .45 Long Colt
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To: EQAndyBuzz

Mmmmm ill tempered sea bass sound delicious!


25 posted on 09/08/2013 8:00:20 AM PDT by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: JohnG45

When they come here Hispanics are converting to the evangelical churches and even Islam.
The Church refuses to evangelize the latter, and hasn’t a clue how to reach the former.


26 posted on 09/08/2013 8:03:45 AM PDT by steve8714 (Are we fighting for peace in Syria? Don't we already know what that is like?)
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To: svcw

There’s nothing wrong with advocating breaking the law if the law is unjust. For instance, if the bishops advocated mass resistance to Obamacare, I would have no problem.

In the 1980s, thousands of people blocked the doors of abortion clinics. Only a couple of bishops ever supported this movement, and NO bishop ever instructed the police that removing people from the doors was a criminal act.


27 posted on 09/08/2013 8:07:42 AM PDT by Arthur McGowan (If you're FOR sticking scissors in a female's neck and sucking out her brains, you are PRO-WOMAN!)
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To: goodwithagun
How I wish Archbishop Fulton J. Sheen was still around.

I doubt today's Church would want much to do with him. He CERTAINLY would not have a TV show.

28 posted on 09/08/2013 8:08:39 AM PDT by Roccus
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To: .45 Long Colt

The Jesuits don’t have a long game. They are a dying order. They will not exist in 30-50 years.


29 posted on 09/08/2013 8:09:32 AM PDT by Arthur McGowan (If you're FOR sticking scissors in a female's neck and sucking out her brains, you are PRO-WOMAN!)
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To: NoKoolAidforMe

The Catholic Church has had an agenda of unrestricted immigration from Catholic countries into the US since the 1965 immigration law lifted the national origin limitations and changed us to a national cap on overall immigration per year.

The agenda has always been to turn the US into a majority Catholic nation, so that Catholics could find another country to turn into an economic welfare state, just as they’ve done in every other country where Catholics hold sway.


30 posted on 09/08/2013 8:09:45 AM PDT by NVDave
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To: NoKoolAidforMe

We may very well decide to grant some type of legal residency status to people who have come here illegally. However we must consider what we really owe these people beyond that. Any other country would redouble efforts to find and remove these people. Instead, our collectivists redouble their efforts to grant these people full citizenship.

We will be making a GRAVE MISTAKE if we grant these people the right to vote, now or ever.


31 posted on 09/08/2013 8:09:45 AM PDT by theBuckwheat
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To: .45 Long Colt

If there’s anything the Jesuits are NOT involved in, it’s doing anything to increase the power of the papacy!


32 posted on 09/08/2013 8:10:44 AM PDT by Arthur McGowan (If you're FOR sticking scissors in a female's neck and sucking out her brains, you are PRO-WOMAN!)
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To: .45 Long Colt

No. More likely a world religion. If one reads Keys To The Blood or The Jesuits both by Malachi Martin the reality of the push for a NWO and the international power plays and marxist thinking in and out of the church have been well known and a reality for all for decades. The unbelief and heresy along side of faith has always been an artful balancing act among the leadership in the Vatican and South America. I don’t know what the plans might be but the rise of the beast and the false prophet will surely take center stage. I don’t think the beast or the anti-christ will be the pope as much of early protestantism believed. I think every power is vying for control and a place at the table in this NWO or global confederacy and redistribution of power.


33 posted on 09/08/2013 8:11:07 AM PDT by Sheapdog (Chew the meat, spit out the bones - FUBO - Come and get me)
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To: Arthur McGowan

Supposedly they were done in the late 18th century, too.


34 posted on 09/08/2013 8:11:56 AM PDT by .45 Long Colt
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To: NVDave

I am a Catholic. But I have to agree that the influence of Catholic voters and Catholic politicians in the U.S. has been largely malign. The majority of “Catholics” in federal office are pro-abortion and socialist, and the bishops sell them Holy Communion in exchange for federal money.


35 posted on 09/08/2013 8:16:34 AM PDT by Arthur McGowan (If you're FOR sticking scissors in a female's neck and sucking out her brains, you are PRO-WOMAN!)
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To: Sheapdog

I hold the historic Protestant view of Rome. I didn’t always believe that, but after spending a lot of time reading long dead Protestants I have changed my mind.


36 posted on 09/08/2013 8:18:36 AM PDT by .45 Long Colt
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To: .45 Long Colt

At that time, they were suppressed. Nowadays, they are just dying.

In the U.S., the Jesuits have become brazenly, contemptuously pro-abortion. They continue to honor pro-abortion politicians as Commencement speakers and honorary-degree recipients each year—when even most liberal Catholic colleges have ceased doing so.


37 posted on 09/08/2013 8:20:22 AM PDT by Arthur McGowan (If you're FOR sticking scissors in a female's neck and sucking out her brains, you are PRO-WOMAN!)
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To: Arthur McGowan

How can you know that? Is that the truth or is that what they want the world to believe? Historically they were known as masters of misdirection. When did they change?

For the record, I have no answers. I am simply wary.


38 posted on 09/08/2013 8:22:45 AM PDT by .45 Long Colt
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To: NoKoolAidforMe
"Once in a generation?"

A generation is what, 20 years? 30 years?

He makes it sound like this is a long, long time.

-PJ

39 posted on 09/08/2013 8:25:24 AM PDT by Political Junkie Too (If you are the Posterity of We the People, then you are a Natural Born Citizen.)
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To: NoKoolAidforMe

Sorry your eminence,No!


40 posted on 09/08/2013 8:28:29 AM PDT by DarthVader (Politicians govern out of self interest, Statesmen govern for a Vision greater than themselves)
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To: NoKoolAidforMe

Church leaders tend to render unto Caesar what is Caesars....not so much the people who are governed by Caesar. Sorry your eminence no disrespect but mind your business...we don’t need any more government freebies for the dregs among us and we certainly don’t need to be importing more of them!!!


41 posted on 09/08/2013 8:29:39 AM PDT by ontap (***)
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To: NoKoolAidforMe
Cardinal Dolan: Congress Must Pass 'Once-in-a-Generation' Immigration Reform.

The 'Once-in-a-Generation' part is the problem.

42 posted on 09/08/2013 8:33:27 AM PDT by Mike Darancette (The Presidency is broken.)
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To: NoKoolAidforMe

Degenerate SOB just wants more cash
Most of the illegals are Catholic
He is truly disgusting


43 posted on 09/08/2013 8:36:47 AM PDT by Rome2000 (THE WASHINGTONIANS AND UNIVERSAL SUFFRAGE ARE THE ENEMY -ROTATE THE CAPITAL AMONGST THE STATES)
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To: Arthur McGowan

“They overwhelmingly vote for the most anti-Christian, anti-life, anti-Constitutionalist politicians”.

Not so.

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2012/11/08/blaze-analysis-catholic-voters-chose-obama-over-romney-despite-contraception-religious-freedom-debate/

“Exit polls from the highly-contentious 2012 presidential race show that Obama captured 50 percent of this coveted cohort, with Romney taking 48 percent of adherents”

“Catholics who report attending church weekly voted for Romney over Obama 57 percent to 42 percent”

In otherwords Catholics voted exactly like protestants, the ones that live their faith voted majority GOP. The ones that don’t attend Church supported the anti-Christian. The Catholics that voted for Obama are also anti-Catholic. You can’t be a Catholic in good standing with the Catholic Church and vote for pro-abortion, pro-sodomite “marriage” candidates. If you do you have given away your right to be identified a Catholic. But the Obama-loving media never tells anyone this. They want everyone to think that Obozo won the “Catholic vote” overwhelmingly. That’s anything but the truth.

The ones that did vote overwhelmingly for him are BLACK PROTESTANTS, who do attend Church regularly. Can you say hypocrite?


44 posted on 09/08/2013 8:47:58 AM PDT by NKP_Vet
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To: .45 Long Colt

He’s right. The Jesuits have there own leader - or the Black Pope that they have followed and many have no love for the Pope the world sees.

The internal political wresting is monumental.

I can understand why the early Protestants believed what they did but the world now is a bit more complicated. Soteriology and Ecclesiology were the issues of the day not Eschatology. That is why Calvin and Luther for all their prodigious output had big blanks and nothing to say over Romans chapters 9-11. They couldn’t understand and see with clarity the things not for their generation. Spurgeon hinted and shared that sentiment. Now this generation is the one that should be able to see more clearly in regards to Eschatology.


45 posted on 09/08/2013 8:48:47 AM PDT by Sheapdog (Chew the meat, spit out the bones - FUBO - Come and get me)
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To: Roccus

You’d see him on EWTN — as you can now. Sometimes they run his old show.


46 posted on 09/08/2013 9:05:22 AM PDT by Ge0ffrey
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To: .45 Long Colt

As I’ve taken to doing as well.

I’ve gone back and started reading Luther’s works - but in the original German, where I can find them. What he saw then and what we see today aren’t far different.

BTW, thumbs-up on your handle. I’m a firm believer that the .45 Colt is widely under-appreciated for what it can deliver from modern firearms with proper chamber sizes. With a .45LC, there’s no need for a .44 Mag.


47 posted on 09/08/2013 9:16:08 AM PDT by NVDave
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To: EQAndyBuzz

I have said for years that we should saturate the US-Mexican border with landmines. This would greatly enhance our border patrol efforts.


48 posted on 09/08/2013 9:22:13 AM PDT by huckfillary (qual tyo ta)
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To: NKP_Vet
But the Obama-loving media never tells anyone this. They want everyone to think that Obozo won the “Catholic vote” overwhelmingly. That’s anything but the truth.

You mean the (pro-sodomite) media would try to foment division between Catholic and Protestant believers?

Whodathunkit?

The politics of division continue...

49 posted on 09/08/2013 9:27:21 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: goodwithagun; Roccus
How I wish Archbishop Fulton J. Sheen was still around.

A close friend of mine just republished one of Sheen's books which was first released in 1940, I believe. Very timely.


50 posted on 09/08/2013 9:27:38 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (Trust but verify. If you can't verify, trust no one but God.)
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