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The salt conundrum: Sodium bad, chloride good
TORONTO SUN ^ | SEPTEMBER 8, 2013 | QMI AGENCY

Posted on 09/08/2013 11:44:17 AM PDT by rickmichaels

Consuming less salt is widely seen as an important step in reducing heart disease and hypertension.

But a new study from the University of Glasgow says low levels of chloride, salt's other constituent, in the blood is an indicator of mortality risk in people with hypertension.

After analyzing data from almost 13,000 patients with high blood pressure, followed up over 35 years, the researchers say they found that low levels of chloride was associated with a higher risk of death and cardiovascular disease.

The group with the lowest level of chloride in their blood had a 20% higher mortality rate compared to the other subjects, the team concluded.

"Sodium is cast as the villain for the central role it plays in increasing the risk of high blood pressure, with chloride little more than a silent extra in the background," Dr. Sandosh Padmanabhan of the Institute of Cardiovascular and Medical Sciences said in a statement.

"However, our study has put the spotlight on this under-studied chemical to reveal an association between low levels of chloride serum in the blood and a higher mortality rate, and surprisingly this is in the opposite direction to the risks associated with high sodium.

"It is likely that chloride plays an important part in the physiology of the body and we need to investigate this further."

Chloride is already measured as part of routine clinical screening and so monitoring of chloride levels could easily be incorporated into clinical practice to identify individuals at high risk, the researchers say.


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1 posted on 09/08/2013 11:44:17 AM PDT by rickmichaels
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To: rickmichaels

http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2012/02/17/dangers-of-salt-restriction.aspx


2 posted on 09/08/2013 11:48:13 AM PDT by gorush (History repeats itself because human nature is static)
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My buddy's blood pressure is up...Doctor says to stop all salt so he doesn't retain water. She doesn't know about the 10 beers he drinks every night. Yes...he's an alcoholic.

So he's gung ho to cut out all salt. What's the problem?? Most people don't tell their doctor everything.

3 posted on 09/08/2013 11:52:44 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: gorush

Very interesting.


4 posted on 09/08/2013 11:54:43 AM PDT by rickmichaels
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To: rickmichaels
I can see where this is going...We'll soon be told to drink something like Pediacare every day.

It's like all that very expensive protein stuff. People are being scared to death about eating real food with real fat with real protein.

If kids drank milk instead of soda they'd be a lot better off....and some meat with their vegies wouldn't hurt either.

5 posted on 09/08/2013 11:57:51 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: rickmichaels

Is potassium chloride (common salt substitute) not a solution to this problem?


6 posted on 09/08/2013 12:01:13 PM PDT by posterchild
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To: Sacajaweau

Meat, milk, butter, cheese: The foundation of a healthy diet.


7 posted on 09/08/2013 12:03:06 PM PDT by rickmichaels
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To: gorush
Your pro-salt article ends with a warning not to consume table salt or salt in processed foods. That's where the vast majority of salt in the American diet comes from. What is the market share of sea salt? 3%? The rest is bad stuff.

We need from 300mg to 800mg of sodium per day, depending upon our level of activity. Sodium is present in all animal products, such as meat, milk and eggs. A serving of steak contains around 300mg of sodium, a day's requirement for most people.

8 posted on 09/08/2013 12:04:56 PM PDT by Praxeologue
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To: posterchild

Yes, in low doses, but in high doese, it’s also the 3rd chemical administered in the lethal injection process:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Potassium_chloride#Precautions


9 posted on 09/08/2013 12:08:44 PM PDT by Carriage Hill (Peace is that brief glorious moment in history, when everybody stands around reloading.)
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To: posterchild
Is potassium chloride (common salt substitute) not a solution to this problem?

Yes.

Some manufacturers produce a blend of potassium chloride and sea salt, which has a taste virtually identical to table salt. Also, sea salt has more flavor per mg of sodium than table salt, so you end up with a product that tastes just like table salt with one-third the sodium.

10 posted on 09/08/2013 12:10:14 PM PDT by Praxeologue
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To: Kennard

http://www.cargill.com/salt/wcm/groups/public/@cseg/@salt/documents/document/na3051787.pdf


11 posted on 09/08/2013 12:15:30 PM PDT by Praxeologue
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To: rickmichaels
I'm 70. Weigh the same as when I was 17..though I am a tad shorter. I consider myself very fortunate...with some good genes...but still eat just like my parents. Mom lived to 90...Dad would have lived longer (bleeding ulcer) but there was no surgeon in the hick town to care for him. My grandparents all lived into their 80's. These were all farm people....and it meant...you eat what you grow.

I remember the pigs and the cow and the bull and ducks and grape vines and digging up potatoes, beans and huge tomatoes etc etc. No soda, no snacks....real homemade food.

12 posted on 09/08/2013 12:16:09 PM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: Kennard

I believe in iodized salt. To me....sea salt is unclean.


13 posted on 09/08/2013 12:17:36 PM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: Sacajaweau

Read the last couple of paragraphs of the article linked in post 2.


14 posted on 09/08/2013 12:21:22 PM PDT by Praxeologue
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To: rickmichaels

It’s time consuming and tedious, but I take my salt and slice each individual salt particle in half. I throw away the Sodium halves but keep the chloride halves to use as my seasoning. /sarc


15 posted on 09/08/2013 12:30:11 PM PDT by House Atreides ( D)
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To: Sacajaweau

I’ve seen where they make sea salt in Frisco Bay. I’ll take the very old mined salt any day over sea salt.


16 posted on 09/08/2013 12:31:58 PM PDT by Cold Heart
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To: rickmichaels

I suggest eliminating artificially modified salts like morton’s.

Consume as much sea salt - naturally dried or harvested Himalayan salt as you prefer.


17 posted on 09/08/2013 12:46:20 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion (The more corrupt the state, the more numerous the laws - Tacituss)
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To: Sacajaweau
She doesn't know about the 10 beers he drinks every night.

A simple blood test would detect that.

18 posted on 09/08/2013 12:51:36 PM PDT by fso301
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To: Kennard

It’s all about marketing...yogurt, bean sprouts, organic vegies which only means they used real sh** on your food etc etc.


19 posted on 09/08/2013 12:53:51 PM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: House Atreides

Love it...


20 posted on 09/08/2013 12:55:03 PM PDT by Sacajaweau
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