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Relocation Question for Iowa FReepers
Self | 09/08/13 | Few dude

Posted on 09/08/2013 7:10:46 PM PDT by fwdude

I am asking not for myself, but for a good, long-time friend considering relocating to Iowa from Texas for a job. He's been unemployed for 6 months now, thanks to the wonderful Obanomy we've been enjoying for the last 4+ years. An interview last week seemed to go very well (he's a mechanical engineer.)

It is in the Des Moines area, which I hear is a liberal cockroach nest politically. The town is about 38 miles SE of Des Moines in Pella. I've looked up stats on the area on city-data.com, but stats can only tell so much, so I was hoping some local FReepers could fill me in on the pros and cons of the area, where to look for housing, areas to avoid, local politics/culture to expect, etc.

About friend's family: they are in their early 50's, in relatively good health, one daughter who just started college here in D/FW, financially stable with no debt, own their home outright. They are committed, devout Christians, and by that I mean they live it out in their lives and aren't quiet about it. Friend is not completely sheltered or naive about Leftist climes, having grown up in Madistan, WI.

Any into I could pass on would be greatly appreciated.


TOPICS: Chit/Chat; Travel
KEYWORDS: iowa

1 posted on 09/08/2013 7:10:46 PM PDT by fwdude
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To: fwdude

Shame you can’t move to Steve King’s district.


2 posted on 09/08/2013 7:13:22 PM PDT by Viennacon
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To: fwdude

correction: your friend


3 posted on 09/08/2013 7:13:49 PM PDT by Viennacon
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To: Viennacon

Maybe his Christian influence is needed where he’s moving (3 conservative votes added). Who are the reps in that area?


4 posted on 09/08/2013 7:15:41 PM PDT by fwdude ( You cannot compromise with that which you must defeat.)
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To: fwdude

Former Iowan (Des Moines and Kelley) here. Pella is a lovely small Dutch community. My first wife and I would visit several times a year, either during their Tulip Festival or other times. The Dutch pastries are to die for. Very conservative place compared to Des Moines, Iowa City or Ames. Home of Vermeer Corporation, Pella Windows and a nice little private university affiliated with the Reformed Church in America, called Central College. Very quaint. Even the convenience stores and fast food restaurants are done in the Dutch style.


5 posted on 09/08/2013 7:16:52 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I aim to raise a million plus for Gov. Palin. What'll you do?.)
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To: fwdude

We lived in Cedar Rapids area about 20 years ago.
It was a nice area.Worked for Rockwell. It was a good job, But wife missed Minnesota so we moved back.


6 posted on 09/08/2013 7:17:59 PM PDT by HP8753 (Live Free!!!! .............or don't.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Thanks, 2nd!


7 posted on 09/08/2013 7:18:07 PM PDT by fwdude ( You cannot compromise with that which you must defeat.)
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To: fwdude

Moved to DFW in December for a better job. Best move I ever made.
My wife (an Aerospace Engineer) found a job in Aerospace, during sequester, in 4 weeks.

Jobs are here.

I am in charge of two plants engineering in Iowa. We cannot find any Engineers in Iowa. We will end up moving all engineering to DFW.

As they say “I wasn’t born in Texas but got here as fast as I could”.


8 posted on 09/08/2013 7:18:22 PM PDT by Mikey_1962 (Obama: The Affirmative Action President.)
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To: fwdude

David Loebsack (AKA David Ballsack) - votes with Pelosi 90% of the time. Former communist college professor.


9 posted on 09/08/2013 7:19:30 PM PDT by Viennacon
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To: fwdude

Pella is a beautiful town, and *very* conservative, *very* Christian. Mostly Reformed Church in America (historically Dutch Reformed), but part of the conservative wing of the RCA. To give you an idea, in a town that size there’s a church called Third Reformed Church.

It’s also a very Dutch town - a very high percentage of people with Dutch ancestry.

Wonderful people.

It is a touch old-fashioned: mowing your lawn on a Sunday will still get you a skeptical look from your neighbor sometimes, from what I understand.

The last time I was there was for the premiere of “The Undefeated” at the Pella Opera House; it’s the movie about Sarah Palin. Sarah and Todd were in attendance, as was Andrew Breitbart.

Really, it’s a great little town. And even Des Moines isn’t quite the liberal cesspool you’ve heard - Des Moines itself is definitely on the left end of the spectrum, but all the suburbs are very conservative, and it’s a pretty cool city.


10 posted on 09/08/2013 7:20:52 PM PDT by xjcsa (Ridiculing the ridiculous since the day I was born.)
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To: Viennacon

Does the district gerrymander parts of Des Moines?


11 posted on 09/08/2013 7:21:18 PM PDT by fwdude ( You cannot compromise with that which you must defeat.)
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To: Mikey_1962; fwdude

Waving to you from Denton.


12 posted on 09/08/2013 7:22:45 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I aim to raise a million plus for Gov. Palin. What'll you do?.)
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To: fwdude
Des Moneis in not Austin, TX...not near so lemmingesque, off the cliff leftist.

But - tell your buddy to take a jacket. Iowa is just below Minnesota on the map.

Off topic, but Iowa's Interstate highway rest stops are second only to those in Texas ....great, clean, wireless internet, etc.

13 posted on 09/08/2013 7:23:16 PM PDT by ErnBatavia (The 0baMao Experiment: Abject Failure)
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To: xjcsa

Thanks. I’ll pass on your information to Tim.


14 posted on 09/08/2013 7:23:22 PM PDT by fwdude ( You cannot compromise with that which you must defeat.)
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To: fwdude

The Pella Opera House was the site of the premier of the movie, “The Undefeated”, about Sarah Palin. Hardly a liberal hellhole.


15 posted on 09/08/2013 7:23:51 PM PDT by SeaHawkFan
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To: xjcsa

Yes, West Des Moines, Clive, Indianola, Ankeny, Urbandale and etc. are not leftist like Des Moines proper.


16 posted on 09/08/2013 7:24:31 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I aim to raise a million plus for Gov. Palin. What'll you do?.)
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To: fwdude

I’m not familiar enough with Iowa to tell. The state is split roughly equally into quarters. King’s district is northwest and the largest in terms of area by the looks of things.
The two southern districts are the rat controlled ones and they are slightly smaller than the northern ones.


17 posted on 09/08/2013 7:28:53 PM PDT by Viennacon
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To: fwdude

Not an Iowan, but I am aware of their Tulip Festival as my parents went there years ago. Basically, anywhere in the midwest away from the big cities, you’ll find the area quite conservative. I’m 30 miles from Minneapolis and it is very conservative where I live. Nothing at all like the rat hole that is Minneapolis.

Here’s a link to their tulip festival: http://www.pellatuliptime.com/


18 posted on 09/08/2013 7:30:09 PM PDT by mplsconservative (Barack Hussein 0bama has American blood on HIS hands!)
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To: fwdude

It’s going to be pretty difficult to be a conservative influence in Pella. He might be one of the most liberal people in that town if he takes the job.


19 posted on 09/08/2013 7:30:17 PM PDT by SeaHawkFan
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Go NTU


20 posted on 09/08/2013 7:32:16 PM PDT by Mikey_1962 (Obama: The Affirmative Action President.)
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To: fwdude

I live in the Des Moines area (not Des Moines but a western burb). Des Moines proper is liberal; but so are many places. The suburbs are not.

Pella of course is very Dutch; and with that more conservative.

Iowa a great place to live and to have a family; in spite of how liberal or conservative each suburb is. Economy is good here.
Many people commute down to Pella from a burb closer to the Des Moines area; such as in the South East Polk school district. Just depends on the situation.


21 posted on 09/08/2013 7:32:56 PM PDT by HereInTheHeartland (Just wanted to say I hope you great NSA folks are enjoying my posts here.)
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To: fwdude
I live just across the river from Iowa and spend a lot of time there. Pella is a very nice community. There are some liberal cities in Iowa but the rural areas are conservative with a good work ethic. Most Iowans of all political ilk are still of the old school Midwest mindset of respecting others and not getting in your face even if they don't agree with you.
22 posted on 09/08/2013 7:33:04 PM PDT by CrazyIvan (Obama phones= Bread and circuits.)
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To: SeaHawkFan
It’s going to be pretty difficult to be a conservative influence in Pella.

You don't know Tim.:)

23 posted on 09/08/2013 7:35:08 PM PDT by fwdude ( You cannot compromise with that which you must defeat.)
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To: fwdude

Google Sarah Palin + Pella


24 posted on 09/08/2013 7:37:41 PM PDT by mac_truck ( Aide toi et dieu t aidera)
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To: fwdude

If he takes the job, tell him to rent a house or condo for a year before he sells his place in Texas. He will be wanting to return to Texas when he has the opportunity. Maybe he can have his daughter live in their house with a couple of other dependable roommates to cover the expenses of the house.


25 posted on 09/08/2013 7:39:56 PM PDT by SeaHawkFan
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To: fwdude

But, all the jobs are in Texas..


26 posted on 09/08/2013 7:42:50 PM PDT by bigbob
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To: SeaHawkFan
Thanks for the advice. Is your prediction based on the climate differential, or the politics?

Personally, I could never live in a state which redefines marriage to 'whatever.'

27 posted on 09/08/2013 7:42:54 PM PDT by fwdude ( You cannot compromise with that which you must defeat.)
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To: Mikey_1962
I am in charge of two plants engineering in Iowa. We cannot find any Engineers in Iowa.

Iowa State University is a well-known engineering school; they graduate hundreds of engineering students each year. I cannot conceive of any reason that you would be having a problem finding employees....unless you require some type of engineering degree that they do not offer.

28 posted on 09/08/2013 7:44:11 PM PDT by garandgal
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To: fwdude

As a former Iowan, bred and born, and schooled I have opinions about Iowa in general, and about it’s political persuasions. Most large cities are liberal in nature. So Des Moines. But the leftist cesspool in Iowa is Iowa City. Pella is a great part of the state, and your friend would find it to be a great place to call home.

Some have said that they can’t find engineers in Iowa. Maybe that is because so many of us left years ago.

I was in Des Moines a week ago for my 60th high school reunion. What an experience...so many of us still walking this earth! And some of the ladies in the class...still knock outs! One told me she was wearing 3 inch heals to our special Saturday evening event...’cause she could! She still trains cabin crews, and flies for free.

I graduated from Iowa State with a degree in Chemical Engineering. It has served me well, and I have served my employers well...around the world.

Go for it...Iowa is still a great place!


29 posted on 09/08/2013 7:50:46 PM PDT by GGpaX4DumpedTea (I am a Tea Party descendant...steeped in the Constitutional Republic given to us by the Founders)
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To: fwdude
The rural areas of the State of very conservative.

Just west of Iowa City ( home of the Hawkeyes), are the Amana Colonies. They are small villages of fundamental Christians who live in self-sustain communities. They are not Amish, but not much different.

About 20 miles SW of Iowa City is the small town of Kalona. This is a large Amish community and is very interesting to visit.

Des Moines is liberal and to a lesser extent, Iowa City is too. Just west of Iowa City is the town of Coralville. Basically of suburb of Iowa City and it has the largest shopping Mall in Iowa.

People are very polite and down to earth.

30 posted on 09/08/2013 7:52:25 PM PDT by libertymaker
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To: garandgal

I contacted them for interns and recent graduates.

Nobody wanted an Engineering job in rural Iowa.

The three interviews I did get all wanted to interview for a job in Texas since we are Fort Worth based.


31 posted on 09/08/2013 7:52:52 PM PDT by Mikey_1962 (Obama: The Affirmative Action President.)
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To: SeaHawkFan

To be honest, the house and property has become a handful and he was probably planning to sell it anyway to downsize (it’s on 5 acres, with a water well that’s been running dry with our horrible drought years.). Even if he found another job locally, he’s had it in mind to sell.


32 posted on 09/08/2013 7:53:25 PM PDT by fwdude ( You cannot compromise with that which you must defeat.)
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To: Mikey_1962

Oh, NOW it makes sense....LOL! The “Rural” part makes a huge difference...and you are right...even the kids who grew up there have little interest in going back. It is worse in some areas of the State than others, too.


33 posted on 09/08/2013 8:03:39 PM PDT by garandgal
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To: fwdude

Pella is a Dutch town located in the uber-conservative Marion county, one of the Republican gold standards in Iowa. They generally outvote Dems by a 2-to-1 or more margin. It’s congressman now is Dave Loebsack due to redistricting but they were I believe in the old 3rd. At any rate they are still very conservative.

Pella is a very nice, very clean, very aggressive entreprenuer type of town with a very active downtown and chamber. They take huge pride in their town and work to keep the riff-raff out. Big tourist down but alot of manufacturing too.

It’s also right next to Lake Red Rock, the largest in Iowa. Think it’s about 10K acres. South of there is some great hunting and great rural landscape where you could buy some property and just go and hide. Lake Rathbun, the second largest lake, is near Centerville to the south. Knoxville to the south and Newton to the north have big competition car races. And of course you are close to Des Moines, which isn’t a liberal sewer totally, just parts. The north and west sides are pretty conservative.

It’s really hard to go wrong picking Pella. Here’s a link to their chamber of commerce:

http://www.pella.org/


34 posted on 09/08/2013 8:08:16 PM PDT by Free Vulcan (Vote Republican! You can vote Democrat when you're dead...)
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To: Free Vulcan; fwdude

Free Vulcan hit it spot on. Pella is a nice, clean Conservative community. There are excellent schools and churches,, and friendly people.


35 posted on 09/08/2013 8:16:25 PM PDT by Iowa Granny (Clintion ruined a dress, but Obama ruined a Nation.)
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To: fwdude

Lincoln, Nebraska. Have them commute.


36 posted on 09/08/2013 8:20:50 PM PDT by Bvpoot
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To: fwdude

The Des Moines area is not hard Left, but is fairly mixed politically. (Western Iowa is Republican, eastern is more industrial and Democrat.)

Pella is a beautiful town with a picturesque town square in the center, a short freeway drive from Des Moines. Tulip Time is the annual festival. If I worked in Pella, I would certainly live there rather than Des Moines.

http://www.pellatuliptime.com/


37 posted on 09/08/2013 8:29:03 PM PDT by iowamark (I must study politics and war that my sons may have liberty to study mathematics and philosophy)
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To: fwdude

Three things you want to check out ahead of moving someplace:

the crime stats
the property taxes
the gun laws (state and local)


38 posted on 09/08/2013 8:38:42 PM PDT by HomeAtLast
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To: libertymaker
Just west of Iowa City is the town of Coralville. Basically of suburb of Iowa City and it has the largest shopping Mall in Iowa.

Coral Ridge Mall is the 2nd largest mall in Iowa; Jordan Creek Mall in West Des Moines is almost twice as big; one of the largest in the country (owned by the same company).

39 posted on 09/08/2013 9:19:52 PM PDT by hawkeye101 (GOOGLE IS EVIL!!!!)
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To: fwdude

It’s basef on the fact that it isn’t Texas.


40 posted on 09/08/2013 11:52:39 PM PDT by SeaHawkFan
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To: fwdude

Des Moines has turned rather Democrat over the past 30 years, but to call it a liberal cesspool? That’s ridiculous.

I do note with sadness that racial crime is starting to come to Des Moines. That puzzles me. Why would thugs want to live in Iowa, of all places?

The Des Moines Register has pretty much become a liberal rag, but it doesn’t speak for the people of Iowa. It doesn’t even deliver all over the state like it used to. It’s a skinny little Gannett rag. Sad. It used to be a good, substantial newspaper in the ‘70s, when I started reading it.

Pella is an attractive, decent, conservative town.

Iowa is a great state with great people. You can find out how great they are by joining the Des Moines Register’s Annual Great Bicycle Ride Across Iowa one July. People open their homes to let you use their shower.

I don’t know where you get your information about Iowa, but you need a new source.


41 posted on 09/09/2013 2:50:17 AM PDT by KAESNO2
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To: KAESNO2

Des Moines went strongly for Obama both times which tells me enough about what a liberal cesspool they are. Crime is way higher than the natioan average, and for a town of around 200k, that says a lot.


42 posted on 09/09/2013 3:26:00 AM PDT by fwdude ( You cannot compromise with that which you must defeat.)
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To: KAESNO2

Des Moines Iowa is JUST as LIBERAL as Minneapolis/St Paul, MN. Des Moines just “covers” it kinda better.


43 posted on 09/09/2013 5:35:13 AM PDT by US Navy Vet (Go Packers! Go Rockies! Go Boston Bruins! See, I'm "Diverse"!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Waving at you from Denton also


44 posted on 09/09/2013 5:48:05 AM PDT by rstrahan
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To: fwdude
Music Man - Iowa Stubborn

Townspeople:
Oh, there's nothing halfway
About the Iowa way to treat you,
When we treat you
Which we may not do at all.

There's an Iowa kind of special
Chip-on-the-shoulder attitude.
We've never been without.
That we recall.

We can be cold
As our falling thermometers in December
If you ask about our weather in July.
And we're so by God stubborn
We could stand touchin' noses
For a week at a time
And never see eye-to-eye.

But what the heck, you're welcome,
Join us at the picnic.
You can eat your fill
Of all the food you bring yourself.
You really ought to give Iowa a try.

Provided you are contrary,

We can be cold
As our falling thermometer in December
If you ask about our weather in July.
And we're so by God stubborn
We can stand touchin' noses
For a week at a time
And never see eye-to-eye.

But we'll give you our shirt
And a back to go with it
If your crops should happen to die.

Farmer:
So, what the heck, you're welcome,
Glad to have you with us.

Farmer and Wife:
Even though we may not ever mention it again.

Townspeople:
You really ought to give Iowa
Hawkeye Iowa
Dubuque, Des
Moines, Davenport, Marshalltown,
Mason City, Keokuk, Ames,
Clear Lake
Ought to give Iowa a try!

45 posted on 09/09/2013 7:39:42 AM PDT by BlueMondaySkipper (Involuntarily subsidizing the parasite class since 1981)
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To: BlueMondaySkipper

Different age, different America.


46 posted on 09/09/2013 7:49:43 AM PDT by fwdude ( You cannot compromise with that which you must defeat.)
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To: US Navy Vet

Naw, I don’t see Des Moines protecting Somalian dog-hating taxi drivers like Minneapolis does.

Minnesotans, for the most part, are self-hating Scandinavians.

Iowans, for the most part, are sensible Germans, Luxembourgers and Dutch.

IMO.


47 posted on 09/09/2013 4:43:24 PM PDT by KAESNO2
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