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Jamaican marijuana tours draw travellers
The Telegraph ^ | 9/9/2013

Posted on 09/09/2013 4:09:48 AM PDT by markomalley

Napa and Sonoma have their wine tours, and travellers flock to Scotland to sample single malt whiskies. But in Jamaica, farmers are offering a different kind of trip for a different type of connoisseur.

Call them ganja tours: smoky, mystical - and technically illegal - journeys to some of the island's hidden cannabis plantations, where pot tourists can sample such strains as "purple kush" and "pineapple skunk."

The tours pass through places like Nine Mile, the tiny hometown of reggae legend, and famous pot-lover, Bob Marley. Here, in Jamaica's verdant central mountains, dreadlocked men escort curious visitors to a farm where deep-green marijuana plants grow out of the reddish soil. Similar tours are offered just outside the western resort town of Negril, where a marijuana mystique has drawn weed-smoking vacationers for decades.

"This one here is the original sinsemilla, Bob Marley's favorite. And this one here is the chocolate skunk. It's special for the ladies," a pot farmer nicknamed "Breezy" told an Associated Press reporter, as he showed off several varieties on his plot one recent morning.

(Excerpt) Read more at telegraph.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Society; Travel
KEYWORDS: ganja; jamaica; marijuana; potheads; tourism
And people do the tours with impunity. Similar in morality to going on pedophile sex tours to Bangkok.
1 posted on 09/09/2013 4:09:48 AM PDT by markomalley
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To: markomalley

Accept, of course, for the small matter that nobody ELSE’S rights are violated by smoking marijuana.


2 posted on 09/09/2013 4:19:59 AM PDT by Wolfie
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To: markomalley

No, it’s very different.


3 posted on 09/09/2013 4:22:19 AM PDT by babble-on
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To: Wolfie
Accept, of course, for the small matter that nobody ELSE’S rights are violated by smoking marijuana.

You might want to check with the victims of the drug gangs on that little issue.

You might want to check with people killed / injured when people under the influence drive / operate machinery.

You might want to check with taxpayers who end up supporting druggies through welfare payments / subsidized housing / food stamps.

Other than that, you're absolutely 100% right.

4 posted on 09/09/2013 4:23:29 AM PDT by markomalley (Nothing emboldens the wicked so greatly as the lack of courage on the part of the good -- Leo XIII)
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To: markomalley

Asinine comparison.


5 posted on 09/09/2013 4:24:07 AM PDT by Rebelbase (Tagline: (optional, printed after your name on post))
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To: markomalley

You are seriously comparing pot smoking to pedophilia?

For the love of God.


6 posted on 09/09/2013 4:43:17 AM PDT by autumnraine (America how long will you be so deaf and dumb to thoe tumbril wheels carrying you to the guillotine?)
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To: markomalley

You are seriously comparing pot smoking to pedophilia?

For the love of God.

P.S. I bet you freak out at Octoberfest too? Don’t beer sample!


7 posted on 09/09/2013 4:44:08 AM PDT by autumnraine (America how long will you be so deaf and dumb to thoe tumbril wheels carrying you to the guillotine?)
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To: autumnraine
You are seriously comparing pot smoking to pedophilia?

Not at all. In fact, if they can come up with a reliable field sobriety test for it, I'd support its (ganja's) legalization.

That doesn't change the fact that drug gangs control those fields in Jamaica. And I don't support the legitimization of activities of gangs that exploit people for the purpose of satisfying vice.

Sorry if some folks do.

8 posted on 09/09/2013 4:46:41 AM PDT by markomalley (Nothing emboldens the wicked so greatly as the lack of courage on the part of the good -- Leo XIII)
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To: markomalley

Can’t agree with you on this one. Pot heads and pedophiles may both start with the letter “p”, but after that there isn’t any similarity.


9 posted on 09/09/2013 4:48:04 AM PDT by from occupied ga (Your government is your most dangerous enemy)
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To: from occupied ga

read post 8.


10 posted on 09/09/2013 4:50:54 AM PDT by markomalley (Nothing emboldens the wicked so greatly as the lack of courage on the part of the good -- Leo XIII)
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To: markomalley

post 8 doesn’t validate your analogy in fact it would argue for legalization of pot.


11 posted on 09/09/2013 4:57:18 AM PDT by from occupied ga (Your government is your most dangerous enemy)
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To: from occupied ga
post 8 doesn’t validate your analogy in fact it would argue for legalization of pot.

Sure it does.

People go to Jamaica for the purpose of pot tourism, which is ultimately controlled by organized crime.

People go to Thailand for sex tourism, which is ultimately controlled by organized crime.

It's not a comment one way or the other on whether drugs should be legalized or whether prostitution should be legalized...it's a matter of supporting the criminals that support both enterprises.

12 posted on 09/09/2013 5:00:09 AM PDT by markomalley (Nothing emboldens the wicked so greatly as the lack of courage on the part of the good -- Leo XIII)
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To: markomalley
Exactly, your post argues more for the legalization of pot more than anything else.

I'm sorry, I think your analogy is heavily flawed.

13 posted on 09/09/2013 5:05:02 AM PDT by Paradox (Unexpected things coming for the next few years.)
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To: markomalley

Do you need to have dredlocks for the tour?


14 posted on 09/09/2013 5:36:07 AM PDT by carriage_hill (Peace is that brief glorious moment in history, when everybody stands around reloading.)
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To: markomalley

Humboldt country is a lot closer and safer . . .


15 posted on 09/09/2013 7:12:21 AM PDT by ▀udda▀udd (>> F U B O << "What the hell kind of country is this if I can only hate a man if he's white?")
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To: markomalley
Drug gangs would not touch pot if people were allowed to grow this WEED on their own property. It is easier to grow than basil and grows as far north as Alaska. Because of prohibition, drug gangs are given the literal ability to grow money on trees.

Alcohol and countless legal Rx pills are shown to be FAR more impairing when driving or operating machinery. They are also 100% proven to be physically addictive and toxic to every organ of the body.

Pot has absolutely zero physical addiction and is 100% non toxic. There is no known toxic dose of any chemical found in pot.

Our laws don't make any sense unless alcohol and Rx opiates/benzos/tranquilizers/hypnotics are banned as well. It only makes sense when you understand people (including our government) are making billions from far more dangerous toxic superaddictive legal drugs while keeping an easily homegrown 100% nontoxic nonaddictive plant illegal.

The majority of druggies today are on Rx pills. They get their dope delivered from a local pharmacy courtesy of the US taxpayer. The biggest dope dealers/thieves in the world (government and big pharma) thank you for your support.

16 posted on 09/09/2013 7:34:02 AM PDT by varyouga
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To: varyouga

I don’t argue with a thing you’re saying. As I said above, as long as there is a decent field sobriety test (and, let me add, some objective measure of when a person is intoxicated), I don’t care one way or the other.

Having said that, the fact of the matter is that it is illegal and that the growth and distribution of it is controlled by organized crime. That is a fact.

If it is legalized, then that will decreasingly be the case (just like all gambling is not controlled by the mob since it has been legalized). However, that hasn’t happened yet.


17 posted on 09/09/2013 7:42:58 AM PDT by markomalley (Nothing emboldens the wicked so greatly as the lack of courage on the part of the good -- Leo XIII)
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To: markomalley

People get busted in this country for taking a minor across state lines for immoral purposes. Not all states have the same age of consent or drug laws.


18 posted on 09/09/2013 7:56:52 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (America 2013 - STUCK ON STUPID)
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To: autumnraine

How about “late term abortion tours”? Would those also be incomparable?

An employer who prohibits drug use even in your off time can still terminate you for the violation. EVEN if the state you reside it permits it.

They can even terminate for violating tobacco bans.


19 posted on 09/09/2013 7:58:36 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (America 2013 - STUCK ON STUPID)
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To: markomalley
just like all gambling is not controlled by the mob since it has been legalized

There are still mob interests in gambling.

In some states where it is still outlawed, billion dollar persons with past family mob ties work to fight "general legalization" attempts. IF they can secure THEIR casinos, then they want gambling legalized. But they don't want poker at the horse tracks. Or expansion of indian casinos.

Just because they are mob doesn't mean that they always break the law and just because they are acting within the law does not mean that they aren't mob. It is the "organized crime" aspect that is the distinction. The mob has been in the music and movie industry as well.

20 posted on 09/09/2013 8:03:28 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (America 2013 - STUCK ON STUPID)
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To: varyouga

How many drivers at 0.08% BAC are actually impaired?

Some want to push that standard down to 0.03%.

It is a neo-prohibition in itself.

Demonizing tobacco and alcohol do nothing to make the case for pot legalization. You’d find yourself unable to use it (can’t smoke it indoors, can’t smoke it outdoors, can only buy it over age 21 with ID, can lose your driver’s license for providing it to someone a month shy of being “of age”).

By the DUI standards, if there is a measurable trace in your bloodstream of pot, then you would be “affected”.

Hoisted yourself on your own petard.of age


21 posted on 09/09/2013 8:07:11 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (America 2013 - STUCK ON STUPID)
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To: markomalley
Let anyone grow it on their own and it will no longer be attractive for any commercial purpose (legal or illegal). Of course big government is terrified of losing income. Right now they take huge cuts through seizures from growers earning millions and want to keep it that way. Just another tax scheme to keep the gubmint leaches rich.

What about field tests for the countless Rx drugs people are driving on that impair FAR more than pot? some studies even show that pot smokers slow down and drive more carefully. Unlike alcohol which encourages aggressive driving in many people.

22 posted on 09/09/2013 9:01:58 AM PDT by varyouga
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To: a fool in paradise

The mob will always be in gambling even with legal casinos. You see casinos will take bets only if you front the money, however the mob will take the bet on credit and collect in the way the mob does.


23 posted on 09/09/2013 10:35:17 AM PDT by gusty
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To: markomalley

A trip to the back country of Jamaica in the company of criminals and friends of criminals. What could possibly go wrong?


24 posted on 09/09/2013 10:38:03 AM PDT by Dagnabitt (Amnesty is Treason. Its agents are Traitors.)
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To: varyouga
Let anyone grow it on their own and it will no longer be attractive for any commercial purpose (legal or illegal). Of course big government is terrified of losing income. Right now they take huge cuts through seizures from growers earning millions and want to keep it that way. Just another tax scheme to keep the gubmint leaches rich.

That's all well and good.

But that is not the reality now. The reality now is that it is controlled by organized criminals.

25 posted on 09/09/2013 11:47:15 AM PDT by markomalley (Nothing emboldens the wicked so greatly as the lack of courage on the part of the good -- Leo XIII)
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To: markomalley

And people do the tours with impunity. Similar in morality to going on pedophile sex tours to Bangkok.

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Smoking pot, adults having sex with pre-pubescent children.

Yea, pretty much the same thing, morally speaking of course.

do I need a sarcasm tag?

I assume your comment made sense you, but I’m pretty puzzled by it.


26 posted on 09/09/2013 2:20:57 PM PDT by dmz
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To: dmz
Smoking pot, adults having sex with pre-pubescent children.

Try this:

Travel great distances to give your money to organized crime.

-versus-

Travel great distances to give your money to organized crime.

27 posted on 09/09/2013 2:24:41 PM PDT by markomalley (Nothing emboldens the wicked so greatly as the lack of courage on the part of the good -- Leo XIII)
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To: markomalley
That reality could and will change in one day for each state. The last few referendums to fully legalize lost by a couple percentage points. I foresee at least 20% of the US population having fully legal pot within 2 years.

People already buy it and use it openly in several states with little problems. The main problem is feds harassing legal growers and stores. The feds can't continue their harassment when it becomes completely obvious they are wrong on the issue.

28 posted on 09/09/2013 8:51:22 PM PDT by varyouga
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To: varyouga
That reality could and will change in one day for each state. The last few referendums to fully legalize lost by a couple percentage points. I foresee at least 20% of the US population having fully legal pot within 2 years.

I understand and it well might. And, as I've stated, as long as there is a reliable field sobriety test and an objective measure (___µg per ml blood or whatever) established to determine when a person is considered intoxicated, then have at it (IMHO).

But this isn't a tour of the coffee shops in Amsterdam. This is a tour of places under control of some really, really bad people.

29 posted on 09/10/2013 2:29:53 AM PDT by markomalley (Nothing emboldens the wicked so greatly as the lack of courage on the part of the good -- Leo XIII)
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