Shakespeare’s Plays Were Written By A Jewish Woman

Jewcy.com ^ | 3-13-2008 | John Hudson

[9YearLurker]

But the Jewish angle?

[Political Junkie Too]

When you geta group of motley 7th grade boys to, within 3 weeks, quote Shakespeare slinging slurs and insults from ‘Romeo and Juliet’ in the produce aisle

Yeah, that reminds me of the movie "Renaissance Man" with Danny DeVito. That was Hamlet and Henry V to army grunts.

Cute movie about teaching Shakespeare.

-PJ

[stanne]

I’ll have to see that.

[tomkat]

Link your REL comment over on one of the Civil War threads and prepare for heavy incoming !

[Mr Ramsbotham]

But the Jewish angle?

I don't think that would have been too difficult for him. He was well educated; held Bachelors' degrees from Oxford and Cambridge, in addition to a doctorate.

[9YearLurker]

And examples of his writing—poetry and plays?

[Mr Ramsbotham]

He wrote songs, although he also adapted songs, and it's difficult to say which of the songs are attributable to him. Here's one which some opine was authored by him (or John Donne, and adapted by him):

Sweet, stay a while; why will you rise?
The light you see comes from your eyes,
The day breaks not; it is my heart,
To think that you and I must part.
O stay, or else my joys must die,
And perish in their infancy.

Dear, let me die, in this fair breast,
Far sweeter than the Phoenix' nest.
Love, raise desire, by his sweet charms,
Within this circle of thine arms.
And let thy blissful kisses cherish,
Mine infant joys, that else must perish.

Do you notice something about this song? In fact, it seems to fit very well with the bedchamber scene in "Romeo and Juliet." Here's a rendition of the song on Youtube:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JnW7z3xTxNo

[La Lydia]

I know. He is my go-to guy when I am feeling low. One or two Mulliner tales and I am good as new.

[stanne]

I’ll have to remember that. It is so amusing to see the soap opera of Bertie running around trying to keep his friends from losing their trust funds.

[FrdmLvr]

I’d read the Lord Bacon theory as well. Made a good argument.

[a fool in paradise]

So this Shakespeare chap was really a beard for a woman writing plays for men dressed as women?

[yldstrk]

yeah who knows?

I had to write about something, only got a B

[AnAmericanMother]

Lots of ‘em in Lewis’ volume of the OHEL.

[stanne]

Tell me what that is. I assume its CS Lewis

[AnAmericanMother]

Yep - Oxford History of English Literature. He wrote the volume on "the sixteenth century, excluding drama". I read it because Lewis wrote it, it was interesting (he has a way with words - who else could make religious pamphlets from the 1540s interesting? or at least his comments about them are interesting). Do not recall a whole lot of literary ladies (nothing compared to the 17th c. even . . . ) but they were represented. And reading More and Ascham and others of that era, you can see that they are talking about educating the daughters of the gentry and the rising middle class, not perhaps as a matter of course but as something that was done frequently.

The feminists have not done us any favors. They have ignored the educated women of 16th and 17th c. England, probably in the interest of promoting their theory that the Industrial Revolution brought forth "heroic" anti-patriarchal wymyn. They seem to think that no females were writing before Austen and Bronte.

[stanne]

Very interesting

[x]

Some of that "sea imagery" is pretty standard stuff: “Memory sails out upon a murky sea,” “a menacing calm,” “against the current,” and “into the current.”

Proving anything is going to be tough. If Obama and Ayers were that close, Ayers's phrases may have entered Obama's conversation and rough drafts without Ayers actually writing the book.

[Political Junkie Too]

It may be standard stuff to a writer, but it may not be to a novice who can't even get past "um... ahh" when speaking extemporaneously.

It's hard to prove ghost-writing, but the circumstantial evidence is strong. Obama has no history of high-quality writing other than the books that he wrote when he met Ayers. Even though Obama came from an island state and an island nation where you might expect a high amount of water exposure and experience, Obama has not offered up any history as a youth of engaging in boating, fishing, surfing, or any interest in the sea at all.

If, with that background, I'm asked to believe that he's exceptional in the use of nautical metaphors strictly from research alone, it's a leap that I need more convincing to take.

-PJ

[Political Junkie Too]

And one more thing...

It goes back to what I hinted at earlier, the use of shibboleths.

Writing about something that is so ingrained in one's culture and being, that it is almost an identifying trait, is something that stands apart from a description as a result of research.

The author of this article is setting up his separate points as shibboleths, things about this particular woman that are ingrained in her culture, her family, and her upbringing, backed up with circumstantial evidence including immersion in music, theater, and access to both across the street from her home.

Again, I am not a scholar in Shakespeare in any sense. I guess that frees me to be more accepting of the arguments made in this article.

-PJ

[cothrige]

The mystery is fueled by the fact that his biography simply doesn't match the areas of knowledge and skill demonstrated in the plays.

Finally, some intelligence on this forum. This is so absolutely true. How could a country boy from Warwickshire write such intelligent things? Middle class boys from the country don't do that. How ridiculous. Only noble people can write that way or read so that they can know these things. I mean, Shakespeare never left England and so could never have written such intelligent things as that land-locked Bohemia, i.e. Czechoslovakia, had a coast, or that inland city Milan was a sea-port. Only a well-travelled person could have not-known these things properly.

And, as is well known, Shakespeare never owned any books. How could he be so smart without books, which we know because he left none in his will. Too bad he doesn't have the bona fides of such eminent scholars as Francis Bacon, who unfortunately also appears to have owned no books since he didn't leave any in his will. And Shakespeare couldn't even spell his own name, unlike such important people like Christopher Marlowe, who spelled his own name Marley. And there is no indication Shakespeare ever went to school, unlike the brilliant Marlowe who also cannot be proven to have gone to school. Thank goodness Marlowe was the son of a shoemaker, and not just the son of the city Mayor like Shakespeare. And, naturally, it is true that Shakespeare was only attested to as the author of the works numerous times throughout his life, and written of by others as such and as a poet. Marlowe, who nobody doubts, has the distinction of not having been recognized as the author of a single work during his life. Tamburlaine, the only of his plays printed during his life at all wasn't actually attributed to him until 80 years after he died. Now, that is evidence. If only Shakespeare could have left so much proof of his authorship.

But, we must agree that simple country folk cannot produce great things. Such lies are evident throughout history. For instance, that great fraud Abraham Lincoln is often given credit for having written the Gettysburg Address and the Emancipation Proclamation. Talk about stupid. How could a poor country boy who spent a total of about a year with actual teachers have done such things? Hogwash. Impossible. His biography does not match the areas of knowledge and skill demonstrated in his writings. In reality it was a man of high education and social standing who produced such works. A man such as Jefferson Davis, who attended universities and West Point, is a perfect fit. He was also known to write speeches and have been active in political life. Yep, it is clear that Jefferson Davis actually wrote the Emancipation Proclamation and Gettysburg Address, among all the other works usually attributed to Lincoln. Thankfully, such eminent scholars as that which produced this article could appreciate the truth of such important facts as this.