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Dancing With Black Widow Spiders
New York Times ^ | September 16, 2013 | JACKSON LANDERS

Posted on 09/16/2013 3:17:14 PM PDT by nickcarraway

I lay on my back with my teeth clenched and my hands gripping the sides of a hospital bed. A crowd of strangers in white coats filled the tiny room. Waves of pain lapped from my abdomen into my chest as the venom worked its way toward my heart.

An experimental antivenin drug was about to be injected into my bloodstream, and while I waited for the needle to go in, I reflected that if anyone in the world was the right person to be bitten by a black widow spider, I was that guy.

As a professional outdoorsman, I spend a lot of time around things that can bite, claw, stab or otherwise attack me. I have been lucky with snakes and reckless with bears. I have had some close calls with lionfish. It figures that the thing to finally nail me would be living on my own front porch.

The black widow’s graceful form and red hourglass marking have made it America’s most recognizable spider. The Eastern species, Latrodectus mactans, is common from Florida to New York and as far west as Texas.

But despite their fearsome reputation, black widows are surprisingly shy and retiring. Over the course of your life, you have probably walked past hundreds of black widows without even realizing it. Each one packs enough venom to lay out a heavyweight boxer for days, yet globally only a few people each year are killed by widow bites.

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


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1 posted on 09/16/2013 3:17:14 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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2 posted on 09/16/2013 3:21:00 PM PDT by DannyTN
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I was bitten by a hobo spider on the forehead once, and it raised a welt the size of a baseball.


3 posted on 09/16/2013 3:23:38 PM PDT by Uncle Miltie (Why haven't we heard from the 30 Benghazi survivors?)
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To: nickcarraway

I live in Florida and I hate black widows. They’re all over the place down here and I am very, very careful about sticking my hand in places. And I would never dream of leaving shoes or boots outside - they’re a black widow’s dream home.


4 posted on 09/16/2013 3:23:39 PM PDT by livius
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To: nickcarraway

Everyone knows someone we’d be better off without,
But best not mention names for we don’t know who’s about,
But why commit a murder, and risk the fires of hell
when black widows in the privy will do it just as well

Poison’s good, and daggers, and arrows in the back
And if you’re feeling desperate you can try a front attack
But are they really worthy of the risk of being caught
When black widows in the privy need not be bribed or bought!

So if you know of one of whom you rather would be rid,
Just wait till dark and point the way to where the widows hid
And say to them, “I think you’ll find that this one is the best”
And black widows in the privy will gladly do the rest!

-—Heather Rose Jones


5 posted on 09/16/2013 3:30:09 PM PDT by coydog (Time to feed the pigs!)
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6 posted on 09/16/2013 3:30:55 PM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true)
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To: nickcarraway

According to the article, the victim failed to shake out his shoes before putting them on. That’s something I do automatically every time. No exceptions. No matter where I am. Too many years of living and working in the tropics. One of my neighbors was killed by a scorpion hiding in a bedroom slipper.


7 posted on 09/16/2013 3:31:22 PM PDT by PowderMonkey (WILL WORK FOR AMMO)
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8 posted on 09/16/2013 3:32:00 PM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: knarf

I like mine better. Those both look evil.


9 posted on 09/16/2013 3:32:29 PM PDT by DannyTN
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To: knarf

I like mine better. Those both look evil.


10 posted on 09/16/2013 3:32:29 PM PDT by DannyTN
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To: nickcarraway
When we live in Denver, my room was in the finished basement with high windows about at ground level. Black Widos would get in and make webs up high in the corners.

I left them alone, they stayed put up there. Was an excellent way to keep my older bitch sister out of my room..........

11 posted on 09/16/2013 3:33:41 PM PDT by doorgunner69
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To: DannyTN

I hate widows.

We have them all over the place down here where I’m from.

I been bitten by all kinds of spiders including the dreaded recluse, but never a widow.

I typically like spiders, but that’s one of two we have here in Texas that I can’t stand.


12 posted on 09/16/2013 3:34:19 PM PDT by Carbonsteel
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To: nickcarraway

My sister told me horror stories about how much pain Black Widow bites caused. She told of tough men crying like babies. Then my son got bitten and his joints ached for about 3 days, it was no big deal.


13 posted on 09/16/2013 3:37:54 PM PDT by tiki
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To: PowderMonkey
It is those damn centipedes that give us the creeps in Hawaii. They like to come out at night to hunt, so I always remember to put my slippers (slaps) on when getting out of bed. I keep one of those long spring finger grabbers handy for when I spot one at night.

Stepped on a big one barefoot and felt him wrap aroud my little toe. Shook the POS off before he could bite. A good look at the fangs on a big guy will give you nightmares.

14 posted on 09/16/2013 3:40:25 PM PDT by doorgunner69
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To: nickcarraway

He waited too long to seek help. I never would have left my boots out like that either. SO glad I live in New England.


15 posted on 09/16/2013 3:47:28 PM PDT by TheRhinelander
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To: PowderMonkey

I lived in Havana for four years and saw my fair share of scorpions. Even for years after returning to CONUS, I shook out my shoes every morning.


16 posted on 09/16/2013 3:51:43 PM PDT by Ax
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To: Carbonsteel
I hate widows.

Don't be so judgmental, many of them have great portfolios and at their age, all they want is companionship and sex..........

17 posted on 09/16/2013 3:52:07 PM PDT by Hot Tabasco (')
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To: Carbonsteel

I went to help a handicapped neighbor, who needed a hot tub moved that was sittingoutside upsidedown in his backyard.

My friend who was supposed to help me move it, pled a bad back, so decided to show off and lift it overhead alone.

I managed to get under it, and it was filthy. Got a good centered grip, and yanked it overhead...real heavy. Grinning at my accomplishment, I chanced to look up at the now illuminated interior, and overhead clinging to the fiberglass surface, was as many black widows as is possible to cover a surface without putting them on top of each other. And as I carried the hot tub overhead, they began to fall on my head and shoulders like rain. I decided to Zen it out and just kept pacing smoothly and chucked it onto the trailer to haul it away. I was literally crawling, but I didn’t get bit.

The spider I hate is the brown recluse. The black widow will retreat, but the brown recluse goes out of its way to bite you. I was bit by a big one and my forearm lost about a third of its mass, it poured like digested soup from the bite wound. It took months for the muscle mass to recover.

I prefer to give spiders in general a pass, but browns I terminate with prejudice and swiftness.


18 posted on 09/16/2013 4:01:51 PM PDT by Anton.Rutter
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I prefer to give spiders in general a pass, but browns I terminate with prejudice and swiftness.

I have terminated about 20 of them at work over the last 3 months. Haven't seen any actually on my work station yet. Mostly just on the floor around it under garbage cans and buckets. They are fast suckers too. I live in central Illinois. I've never seen a black widow, though some say they are in the state.

19 posted on 09/16/2013 4:23:15 PM PDT by TruthBeforeAll
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20 posted on 09/16/2013 4:29:05 PM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy (The best War on Terror News is at rantburg.com)
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I used to work at a golf course outside of Austin in my college days. Setting up the driving range one day, I reached into a cup to pull leaves out so I could put the flagstick in. Pulled out more than leaves ... a black widow was sitting there in the palm of my hand. Dropped her really quickly.


21 posted on 09/16/2013 4:29:13 PM PDT by al_c (Obama's standing in the world has fallen so much that Kenya now claims he was born in America.)
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Yeah, it doesn’t take long to look at a Black Widow, does it?


22 posted on 09/16/2013 4:30:05 PM PDT by gitmo ( If your theology doesn't become your biography it's useless.)
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To: Anton.Rutter; DoorGunner

I knew I was going to be sorry for clicking on this thread. And I had to go and do it anyway....


23 posted on 09/16/2013 4:37:29 PM PDT by CatherineofAragon (Support Christian white males----the architects of the jewel known as Western Civilization.)
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To: nickcarraway

To my knowledge I’ve never seen a black widow.

But we have lots of boots, skates and old shoes that sit in the garage just waiting to have a foot stuck inside.

So... thanks for posting!


24 posted on 09/16/2013 4:39:33 PM PDT by workerbee (The President of the United States is DOMESTIC ENEMY #1)
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Another reason I love my Nike sandals. Besides most comfortable long distance walking footwear, ever.


25 posted on 09/16/2013 4:44:30 PM PDT by Anton.Rutter
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To: nickcarraway

I worked on the pond of a sawmill during college. When it got cold, we had a floating shack with a nice warm stove which did double duty to dry out our gloves. Every night we’d see half a dozen black widows and brown recluses. The place just swarmed with them. Needless to say, everyone carefully shook their gloves before they put them back on. In forty years, only person got bitten and that was because he quickly jerked on his glove without shaking it out. Even five years later, he still hadn’t recovered complete movement in his thumb.


26 posted on 09/16/2013 4:47:25 PM PDT by CommerceComet (Obama vs. Romney - clear evidence that our nation has been judged by God and found wanting.)
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Ascorbic acid, vitamin C, injected intravenously, will stop the sting and mayhem of a black widow bite (sting). Few doctors know this. If the first doesn’t neutralize it quickly, a second intravenous injection is called for. Google it...

This will also stop snakebite fast.

And none of this is ‘experimental’...it has been used successfully many times by doctors who know.


27 posted on 09/16/2013 4:48:21 PM PDT by GGpaX4DumpedTea (I am a Tea Party descendant...steeped in the Constitutional Republic given to us by the Founders)
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To: nickcarraway
Got bitten by a brown recluse a couple of years ago, took 3 months to heal.
My brother in law got bitten by a black widow or brown recluse 5 days ago, looks like they may have to put him in the hospital, antibiotics don't seem to be working.

Both are very bad, I know.

28 posted on 09/16/2013 4:48:22 PM PDT by The Cajun (Sarah Palin, Mark Levin, Ted Cruz......Nuff said.)
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To: nickcarraway

I worked on the pond of a sawmill during college. When it got cold, we had a floating shack with a nice warm stove which did double duty to dry out our gloves. Every night we’d see half a dozen black widows and brown recluses. The place just swarmed with them. Needless to say, everyone carefully shook their gloves before they put them back on. In forty years, only person got bitten and that was because he quickly jerked on his glove without shaking it out. Even five years later, he still hadn’t recovered complete movement in his thumb.


29 posted on 09/16/2013 4:49:38 PM PDT by CommerceComet (Obama vs. Romney - clear evidence that our nation has been judged by God and found wanting.)
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To: gitmo

1/2 a second ... that’s plenty for me.


30 posted on 09/16/2013 4:49:50 PM PDT by al_c (Obama's standing in the world has fallen so much that Kenya now claims he was born in America.)
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To: TheRhinelander
The lack of black widow spiders might be the only positive thing about living in CT. I know they say they are in CT but I haven't seen one in 43 years of living here.
31 posted on 09/16/2013 4:51:49 PM PDT by peeps36 (I'm Not A Racist, I Hate Douchebags f All Colors)
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To: nickcarraway

If you don’t like spiders, don’t kill the mud daubers.


32 posted on 09/16/2013 4:56:55 PM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh, bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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Put Adolfs meat tenderizer on the wound. It breaks down the enzymes that are disolving the flesh. Make sure you use the unseasoned kind.


33 posted on 09/16/2013 4:57:04 PM PDT by metalurgist ( Want your country back? It'll take guns and rope. Marxists won't give up peaceably.)
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His Doc gave him 2 different antibiotics today, wants to see him in the morning again.
3rd trip to the doctor so far.
His wife sent a picture of the wound to us, the flesh still seems to be dissolving, central part getting deeper and wider and the redness appears to be getting wider also.

Wish they would have put him in the hospital today where they could give him kick-ass antibiotic IVs.

34 posted on 09/16/2013 5:07:18 PM PDT by The Cajun (Sarah Palin, Mark Levin, Ted Cruz......Nuff said.)
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To: thackney

Those are Black Widdahs


35 posted on 09/16/2013 5:11:32 PM PDT by headstamp 2 (What would Scooby do?)
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To: Hot Tabasco
Yeah, but then they EAT you!


36 posted on 09/16/2013 5:18:22 PM PDT by Delta 21 (Oh Crap !! Did I say that out loud ??!??)
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To: GGpaX4DumpedTea

Fascinating:

http://www.doctoryourself.com/klennerpaper.html


37 posted on 09/16/2013 5:20:22 PM PDT by mad_as_he$$
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To: nickcarraway

The receptionist at a place where I once worked lost her entire left leg from a widder bite. She almost died.


38 posted on 09/16/2013 5:21:42 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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Or just use a stun gun on the area of the bite quickly after it happens. It works better than the tenderizer method.


39 posted on 09/16/2013 5:23:59 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: The Cajun

manuka wound honey topically applied may help deal with stopping the necrosis.


40 posted on 09/16/2013 5:46:22 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: PowderMonkey
the victim failed to shake out his shoes before putting them on.

Amen to that. I do it almost unconsciously.
And always do it with motorcycle helmet before putting it on as well.

41 posted on 09/16/2013 6:14:34 PM PDT by Tainan (Cogito, ergo conservatus sum -- "The Taliban is inside the building")
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To: nickcarraway
I have had some close calls with Lionfish The writer of this article sounds pretty lame. Lionfish seldom attack people, as their primary focus in life is hiding under rocks or reef caverns, and they usually swim slowly. The same lameness can probably be said of his snake and bear references.
42 posted on 09/16/2013 6:42:59 PM PDT by Prole
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To: mad_as_he$$

Thank you. Your link, http://www.doctoryourself.com/klennerpaper.html is an excellent dissertation on the benefits of high dose vitamin C, especially as administered via IV. It is lengthy, but well worth the time to read it by anyone interested in effective treatments.


43 posted on 09/16/2013 7:21:37 PM PDT by GGpaX4DumpedTea (I am a Tea Party descendant...steeped in the Constitutional Republic given to us by the Founders)
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