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College professors should be more involved in K-12 education
Canada Free Press ^ | September 8, 2013 | Bruce Deitrick Price

Posted on 09/16/2013 4:08:08 PM PDT by BruceDeitrickPrice

[SUMMARY: All levels of education influence each other. College professors can greatly help higher education by joining the fight to improve secondary education.]--

No school is an island; each school, each sector of education, is connected to the others. Influences flow between them. It’s reasonable to think a nation’s educational institutions will rise and fall together.

College professors may hope they can retreat to an ivory tower, untouched by the mediocrity in our public schools. Some professors may believe they are an intellectual aristocracy, and as such cannot be contaminated by the rabble below.

However, the contamination relentlessly spreads and has for almost 100 years, ever since John Dewey and his progressive educators began to control public education. They wanted to shape the type of society that the US becomes. Naturally they want to control higher education too.

To understand the depth and longevity of the contamination, we merely have to look at one of the seminal books of the 20th century, “Educational Wastelands -- the Retreat from Learning in our Public Schools” written by Professor Arthur Bestor in 1953. Imagine that; 60 years ago a distinguished professor of history took on the saboteurs of education at every level.

During the mid-1950's, Professor Bestor tried to mobilize all the academics in the country to join him in supporting traditional standards. He complained that left-wing professors were undermining higher education and trying to corrupt the training of future teachers.

Simultaneously with his campaign at the university level, Bestor unleashed his lightning bolt of a book at the phony K-12 educators he called “educationists.”

In short, Arthur Bestor was a tough-minded visionary and should be the patron saint of all who see the interconnections between every level of education. Bestor promoted his views aggressively, and at risk to his career...

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Education; Reference; Society
KEYWORDS: dewey; highereducation; leftismoncampus; schoolreform; standards

1 posted on 09/16/2013 4:08:08 PM PDT by BruceDeitrickPrice
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To: BruceDeitrickPrice

Kindergartners should be more involved with College Professor’s education.

We would all be a lot better off...


2 posted on 09/16/2013 4:13:37 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (In theory there is no difference between theory and practice. In practice there is. (Yogi Berra))
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To: BruceDeitrickPrice

puleeeeeez


3 posted on 09/16/2013 4:14:42 PM PDT by Doogle (USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated))
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To: BruceDeitrickPrice

My friend is a college English professor.
She says that she has students who are top of their high school class, who can not wrote a coherent paragraph.

(She has said they all know how not to get pregnant and all about man made global warming. She has said each year the quality of students lowers, not blaming them but liberals)


4 posted on 09/16/2013 4:16:47 PM PDT by svcw (Stand or die)
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To: BruceDeitrickPrice
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Why excerpt?

5 posted on 09/16/2013 4:18:27 PM PDT by humblegunner
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To: BruceDeitrickPrice

Actually, Brucette.. the bulk of what you post is your own material:

http://www.freerepublic.com/tag/by:brucedeitrickprice/index?tab=articles

How much do you make per hit that you steal from Free Republic?


6 posted on 09/16/2013 4:21:10 PM PDT by humblegunner
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To: BruceDeitrickPrice

Pish tosh.

Professors can’t even be bothered to teach mere undergrads, so anxious ar they to get on with important research.


7 posted on 09/16/2013 4:21:25 PM PDT by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Technological progress cannot be legislated.)
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Yeah, that will do it.

Then we'll have Bill Ayers clones impressing the impressionable.

8 posted on 09/16/2013 4:34:17 PM PDT by elkfersupper
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To: BruceDeitrickPrice

Some ideas are so stupid they could only come from a university.


9 posted on 09/16/2013 4:37:08 PM PDT by Hugin
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To: svcw

[She says that she has students who are top of their high school class, who can not wrote a coherent paragraph.]

I also can’t wrote a coherent paragraph even if I knew how to spell it correctly.


10 posted on 09/16/2013 4:39:24 PM PDT by Islander2
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To: svcw

25-30 years ago the reverse was true (K-12 taught the basics; professors taught PC).


11 posted on 09/16/2013 4:40:29 PM PDT by scrabblehack
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To: BruceDeitrickPrice

There will be a lot of unemployed college perfessers soon, and they are going to need gainful employment.


12 posted on 09/16/2013 4:41:46 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (When your policy is to rob Peter to pay Paul, you can count on enthusiastic support from Paul.)
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To: BruceDeitrickPrice

A college professor, Noam Chomsky, almost singularly destroyed the education of black Americans for generations.

His creation of “whole language English” took black children from almost on an educational par with white children in the 1950s, to functionally illiterate, in a single decade.

Even today, despite volumes of data proving beyond doubt what an unmitigated disaster it was, Chomsky’s followers still try to promulgate that monstrosity on black children.

And in recent years, their fellow academicians are now trying to introduce the equivalent of whole language English into mathematics instruction. It was almost instantly a failure. Does not matter one bit, they are still advocating it.

Finally, bound and determine to ruin America’s educational system completely, these same scoundrels are behind “Common Core” education.

The bottom line is that professors should be excluded from school grounds as equally harmful, perhaps more harmful, than pedophiles.


13 posted on 09/16/2013 4:42:14 PM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy (The best War on Terror News is at rantburg.com)
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To: BruceDeitrickPrice

Teaching Children requires a different... Gift

Professors are usually teaching heavily motivated young adults
with above average intellectual gifts.

Children are much more limited and incomplete.

I suspect the average College Professor
would not last a day in a first grade class
(unless they specifically taught future elementary school teachers)

I believe the greatness of a teacher is measured
not by how high they can take the student,
but by how far down they can reach and pull the student up.


14 posted on 09/16/2013 4:43:23 PM PDT by HangnJudge
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To: freedumb2003

Couldn’t have said it better...


15 posted on 09/16/2013 4:50:54 PM PDT by Popman (Liberal wars are about killing people for humanitarian reasons...)
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To: elkfersupper

You might enjoy this thread. It gets real interesting when a mighty teacher comes along to school us ignernt rednecks.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3067473/posts


16 posted on 09/16/2013 4:53:00 PM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: BruceDeitrickPrice

The only reason I can think of to involve college “professors” with K-12 education is to provide them with younger prey for their pedophile proclivities.


17 posted on 09/16/2013 5:00:31 PM PDT by Westbrook (Children do not divide your love, they multiply it.)
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To: svcw

I love stories like this. We’ll hear statistics, studies and research promising us that things are getting better. But one kid with excellent grades who can’t write, or doesn’t know what 7×9 is, gives away the whole game.

Tell your friend I’d like to have a whole bunch of these stories. Or maybe she could write an article and I’ll publish it anonymously for her, on edarticle.com, etc.

Please tell her about the cfp article. Basically, I’m trying to embarrass college professors into getting more involved.


18 posted on 09/16/2013 5:47:24 PM PDT by BruceDeitrickPrice (education reform)
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To: BruceDeitrickPrice

It depends on the college professor. Would you rather hand your kids over to Cornell West or Walter Williams?


19 posted on 09/16/2013 5:51:45 PM PDT by jmcenanly ("The more corrupt the state, the more laws." Tacitus, Publius Cornelius)
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Funny you should say that, she is actually publishing her findings over the years.
Of course she has kids that are fantastic.
She stopped bye the other day to say (first week of school) that five of her students wanted excused absences to go to a concert, of course she said no.
She is passionate about teaching kids who want to learn but sick of kids who are coasting.
I think as long as we are graduating kids who can’t read, we are domed.


20 posted on 09/16/2013 5:55:27 PM PDT by svcw (Stand or die)
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To: svcw
I think as long as we are graduating kids who can’t read, we are domed.

Better a smart kid drop out of a failing school than a dumb kid stay in a failing school.

I have no love for 1 size fits all education.
21 posted on 09/16/2013 6:06:28 PM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: Westbrook

The article is not about professors having anything to do with public schools personally or directly. (Not a good idea, I agree.)

The point is that they should be able to explain to the community, the school board, and the local paper what is going on in the schools. Ideally, the professors would become aggressive spokespeople for the best in education at all levels.


22 posted on 09/16/2013 6:08:58 PM PDT by BruceDeitrickPrice (education reform)
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To: cripplecreek

School in not for everyone.
And this cored curriculum coming down the pike is awful.
The schools say “climb this tree”, fish can’t, elephants can’t so therefore they are stupid.


23 posted on 09/16/2013 6:10:17 PM PDT by svcw (Stand or die)
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To: svcw
we are domed...

Are we really Dome heads?

24 posted on 09/16/2013 6:10:42 PM PDT by Cvengr (Adversity in life and death is inevitable. Thru faith in Christ, stress is optional.)
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To: svcw

I think I would have done well with the on line schooling if we had had it back then.


25 posted on 09/16/2013 6:13:38 PM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: svcw

I have spoken to many grade and middle school teachers, now retired, who said that this has been going on since the early 70’s.

Oddly enough, this is NOT Obama’s Fault.


26 posted on 09/16/2013 6:24:13 PM PDT by The Antiyuppie ("When small men cast long shadows, then it is very late in the day.")
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To: Cvengr
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27 posted on 09/16/2013 6:24:47 PM PDT by svcw (Stand or die)
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To: The Antiyuppie

Falls on teachers unions and liberals


28 posted on 09/16/2013 6:42:17 PM PDT by svcw (Stand or die)
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To: humblegunner; BruceDeitrickPrice
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29 posted on 09/16/2013 7:19:07 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (In theory there is no difference between theory and practice. In practice there is. (Yogi Berra))
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“Kindergartners should be more involved with College Professor’s education. We would all be a lot better off...”

Worth repeating.


30 posted on 09/16/2013 7:24:40 PM PDT by CodeToad (Liberals are bloodsucking ticks. We need to light the matchstick to burn them off. -786 +969)
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