Posted on 09/17/2013 3:03:33 PM PDT by Lucky9teen
Edited on 09/17/2013 3:59:49 PM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]
So? What do you say we change that? Terrorists have already targeted Americans on American soil, and American military bases. Our service personnel deserve the ability to protect themselves, or at least have that option.
What a joke this must appear to the rest of the world. The mighty American military, at a major headquarters, full of brass, in the nation’s capital, succumbs to a punk with a shotgun and goes into a swoon. Congress runs into the “safe tunnels” like little girls.
Hey, we’re in a world a war. Consider it our luck that this lone lunatic wanted to play “first person shooter” from the balcony over the food-court atrium, instead of heading to the Admirals’ offices. Along with a dozen of his pals at different bases at the same time. Because it could have been done easily. It still can be, as long as our bases are PC “gun free zones.”
I don't know how far back that goes, but I suspect quite a ways. I was in the army at a missile repair base out in the desert, back in the early 1960s. We were never armed, except when we were on "guard duty," stationed around the perimeter with its chain-linked fence and barbed wire. I put "guard duty" in parentheses, because we were issued rifles, but no ammunition.
And, yes, the MPs were armed, presumably so they could bring in any troublemakers when necessary. Their usual duty in my experience was dealing with drunks or speeders.
It's an old custom in most military organizations to keep the weapons in an armory, and only issue them when a battle is anticipated.
What if the guy had to consider that even a small number of his intended victims were armed with no more than a .38 snub revolver?
I went to Ft. Knox for basic in 1960, and no one had ammunition.
I served 8 year in the Md. National Guard and no one had ammunition—at least not officially.
As far as I know it has always been the policy of the military not to issue ammunition unless it’s considered needed.
And in the Navy and Air Force only a very small percentage of the personnel are trained in the use of firearms beyond very basic training, and very few are even issued, or need to be issued any sort of weapon to do their job.
A higher percentage in the Army and Marine Corps would be trained and have weapons issued, but that would still be a minority unless in a combat zone.
The answer is probably increased security, or more military police who are armed and trained in police tactics.
This was always done to prevent accidental discharges. People back then could not conceive of soldiers just going on mass shooting sprees. Times are different now. The military should lift its restrictions on concealed carry and personal guns on base.
I imagine that would arm a small army right there.
Makes me sick ...... Can’t wait till an adult is back in charge of this circus.
Stay safe ..
I know guys who served in the USAF in SAC in the 60’s, and they assure me that their weapons were loaded on base. All of them, all the time.
And anyone who tried to bully or ram their way onto a SAC base was to be shot dead, no questions or hesitation allowed. Anyone who was already on-base, in uniform, who approached the “dead line” surrounding the B-52’s and B-58’s on the flight line who was alone would probably have been shot as well. They told me they took base security very seriously, and signs were posted as to the lethality of their standing orders.
Of course, I still blame draft-dodging, American-hating, serial-lying Clinton. He was aware of the threats and nevertheless deliberately and intentionally chose inaction on the matter.
Why are we dying in “no gun zones”?
B-58s !!!
Dude that was old school.
Actually, there’s nothing like getting “jacked up” by an 18 year old sky cop.
Officers should always have loaded sidearms...for authority.
Sometime following WWI. But IIRC the officers were still allowed to carry side arms.
When I was on guard duty in Germany we carried 90 rounds.
That was in 1960.
Or allow concealed/open carry of privately owned firearms.
“Hey, we’re in a world a war. Consider it our luck that this lone lunatic wanted to play “first person shooter” from the balcony over the food-court atrium, instead of heading to the Admirals’ offices. Along with a dozen of his pals at different bases at the same time. Because it could have been done easily. It still can be, as long as our bases are PC “gun free zones.”
It would have been better for America if this poor soul had shot some staff officers of high rank because they would immediately have changed their idiotic policies regarding firearms on bases.
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