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5 bodies found in submerged Oklahoma cars(UPDATE: Sixth body found)
KFOR.com ^ | 9-17-2013 | K. Querry and A. Edwards

Posted on 09/18/2013 3:29:58 AM PDT by servo1969

ELK CITY, Okla. – Emergency crews pulled two cars from Foss Lake in Custer County Tuesday afternoon.

The Elk City Daily News reported human remains have been found in both vehicles.

Investigators said one of the vehicles is connected to a cold case more than 40-years-old where three teenagers went missing Nov. 20, 1970.

The 1969 Chevrolet Camaro crews pulled from Foss Lake may have belonged to 16-year-old Jimmy Allen Williams, who was last seen driving in Sayre with two friends, 18-year-old Thomas Rios and 18-year-old Leah Johnson.

The three teens never returned home and have not been heard from since.

The second vehicle, a 1957 Chevy, may be linked to an older cold case from the 1950s or 1960s where two people went missing from Canute.

The Custer County Sheriff is asking anyone with information to call (580) 323-1616.

UPDATE 3:36 p.m. – Custer County authorities were practicing with a new sonar device when they found the vehicles in Foss Lake Tuesday afternoon near the marina, according to the Elk City Daily News.

UPDATE 4 p.m. – Officials have confirmed the identity of at least one of the victims in the 1969 Camaro found in Foss Lake, according to the Elk City Daily News. The identities are not being released until all family members are notified. Details about the remains in the 1950′s Chevy are not being released.

UPDATE: 5:36 p.m. -The Sheriff now says the remains of six bodies have been found found in the two cars found in Foss Lake Tuesday.


TOPICS: History; Local News; Miscellaneous; Weird Stuff
KEYWORDS: bodies; cars; custer; elkcity; foss; lake; oklahoma

1 posted on 09/18/2013 3:29:58 AM PDT by servo1969
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To: servo1969

They might not be able to restore the vehicle ....


2 posted on 09/18/2013 3:37:13 AM PDT by Ken522
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To: servo1969

Maybe they better drain that whole lake. Jimmy Hoffa might be in there (and Zero’s birth certificate).


3 posted on 09/18/2013 3:37:17 AM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (Resist We Much)
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To: servo1969

Doesn’t look like a 57 Chev in the background. More like a 51 Chev. Just MHO.


4 posted on 09/18/2013 3:38:03 AM PDT by duckman (I'm part of the group pulling the wagon!)
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To: servo1969

That looks like a ‘53 Chevy.


5 posted on 09/18/2013 3:40:07 AM PDT by headstamp 2 (What would Scooby do?)
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To: servo1969

Either that lake attracts cars like a magnet or there was a serial killer dumping his victims there.


6 posted on 09/18/2013 3:42:49 AM PDT by StormEye
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To: duckman

“Doesn’t look like a 57 Chev in the background. More like a 51 Chev. Just MHO.”

The plate probably was from ‘57. I agree. It does not appear to be a ‘57.


7 posted on 09/18/2013 3:48:12 AM PDT by Gen.Blather
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To: servo1969

“Custer County authorities were practicing with a new sonar device...”

It seems to work quite well.


8 posted on 09/18/2013 3:50:52 AM PDT by jocon307
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To: headstamp 2

OK. ‘52 was last year of split windshield. ‘53 had the one piece one.


9 posted on 09/18/2013 3:51:35 AM PDT by headstamp 2 (What would Scooby do?)
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To: Gen.Blather

Another reason to get your car Ziebarted


10 posted on 09/18/2013 3:52:23 AM PDT by nikos1121 (“To err is human; to forgive, divine.” Alexander Pope (1688-1744) English poet)
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To: Ken522

Awww, it’ll buff right out.


11 posted on 09/18/2013 3:53:13 AM PDT by carriage_hill (Peace is that brief glorious moment in history, when everybody stands around reloading.)
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To: duckman

It seems like either a ‘51 or a ‘52.

It has split windshield,so it is not a ‘53, which had a one piece windshield.

I am very curious about the damage on the Camaro.

The front is not damaged, but the rear is horribly mangled. Impact with the water did not do that.

At the news source link, there are pictures of this same
Camaro in 1970.


12 posted on 09/18/2013 3:54:48 AM PDT by exit82 ("The Taliban is on the inside of the building" E. Nordstrom 10-10-12)
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To: headstamp 2

That’s a picture of the trunk of the older car, isn’t it?


13 posted on 09/18/2013 3:54:51 AM PDT by servo1969
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To: Gen.Blather

What’s the other car?


14 posted on 09/18/2013 3:55:05 AM PDT by RadiationRomeo (Step into my mind and glimpse the madness that is me)
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To: RadiationRomeo

“What’s the other car?”

Camaro.


15 posted on 09/18/2013 4:00:43 AM PDT by Gen.Blather
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To: servo1969

There are better pictures at the link. One shows a broadside of the older car.


16 posted on 09/18/2013 4:04:14 AM PDT by headstamp 2 (What would Scooby do?)
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To: servo1969

Where was Ted Kennedy around that time? Sounds kind of like his M.O.


17 posted on 09/18/2013 4:05:38 AM PDT by rfreedom4u (I have a copy of the Constitution! And I'm not afraid to use it!)
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To: exit82

16 year old driving a car with a lot of power?

I can see the car ending up going backwards during the crash sequence, if that’s what happened.


18 posted on 09/18/2013 4:17:28 AM PDT by ltc8k6
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To: servo1969

WTF???


19 posted on 09/18/2013 5:09:10 AM PDT by Jack Hammer (American)
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To: Ken522

Wouldn’t go back to those days (’50’s-70’s) for the world, but it is always a fascinating read. :)


20 posted on 09/18/2013 5:15:15 AM PDT by erlayman
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To: servo1969

Two people in one car and three people in the second car, but they have six skeletons???


21 posted on 09/18/2013 5:34:29 AM PDT by bgill (This reply was mined before it was posted.)
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To: servo1969

Probably not “hold my beer and watch this”...


22 posted on 09/18/2013 5:45:13 AM PDT by JimRed (Excise the cancer before it kills us; feed & water the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS NOW & FOREVER!)
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To: erlayman

I would in a minute.


23 posted on 09/18/2013 6:39:48 AM PDT by Resolute Conservative
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To: servo1969

2 car crashes in one area and nobody could get out of their cars?


24 posted on 09/18/2013 6:57:06 AM PDT by US_MilitaryRules (Tastes like Heaven, Burns like Hell! Mmmmmm. What is it?)
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To: servo1969

Where was Ted Kennedy at the time?


25 posted on 09/18/2013 6:59:08 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: servo1969

What the hell happened?


26 posted on 09/18/2013 7:05:45 AM PDT by bmwcyle (People who do not study history are destine to believe really ignorant statements.)
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To: Resolute Conservative

I miss the days when most people cared about their appearance, their manners and their choice of words when they were in public places. It does not take money to look decent and act respectfully— all it requires is simply caring enough. But not so much friends’ parents screaming behind closed doors (at each other or the kids) fist fights on the front lawn, teenage runaways, threats of gun violence and domestic abuse, worry over bills, and racial/sexist remarks that passed without comment that would raise eyebrows on Mad Men etc.


27 posted on 09/18/2013 7:27:03 AM PDT by erlayman
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To: erlayman

I hear you.


28 posted on 09/18/2013 8:12:00 AM PDT by Resolute Conservative
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To: exit82

I was reading somewhere this morning that there had been an anonymous back then about the camaro being in the lake.makes you wonder if that’s why the back is damaged maybe someone witnessed something.


29 posted on 09/18/2013 8:29:29 AM PDT by Tink74
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To: Tink74

I am thinking that if the Camaro went into the lake in a forward motion, the front would be the first thing to hit the water, and the car would sink front first due to the weight of the engine.

Even if the Camaro turned over while sinking, I would expect the roof to crush a bit but not the rear end to look like it does—ie, crushed and/or ripped apart.

It is entirely possible that bothe Chevy in 1957 and the Camaro in 1970 were driving along at a fair rate of speed and flew into the lake off the boat ramp. I don’t know how deep the water is at that location. Obviously there was mud, and the cars may have sunk into it.

It is so strange to think that people could be launching boats right over these cars for years.

Bodies of water hold many secrets.I am glad these folks have been found.

And the police should continue looking. Within the past few years, various canals in the State of Florida have been searched and multiple missing people and vehicles have been found.


30 posted on 09/18/2013 10:15:20 AM PDT by exit82 ("The Taliban is on the inside of the building" E. Nordstrom 10-10-12)
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To: servo1969

"Who's the U-Boat Commander?"

31 posted on 09/18/2013 10:18:08 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Tink74

Supposition: 3 teenagers sitting(smoking, drinking), enemy rams rear end pushing vehicle into lake. Say it was done and pushing vehicle then junked, without questioning. No one suspicious of vehicle with major front-end damage because the were franticly looking for missing teenagers only.


32 posted on 09/18/2013 10:42:47 AM PDT by GOYAKLA (Waiting for the Golden Screw to be removed from Obama's navel and his a$$ falls off!)
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To: GOYAKLA

Could have been hit by a boat after it sank. Most people would think they just hit a log. Especially if it were a couple of years later.


33 posted on 09/18/2013 10:50:04 AM PDT by Vermont Lt (Quis custodiet ipsos custodes? Who will watch the watchers?)
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To: StormEye

I looked at it on Google Earth and it seems pretty clear what might have happened , at least with the Camaro ... This is a reservoir and there is a highway #44 that runs straight along the eastern edge ... a perfect place to have discrete drag races .. my guess is he got hit hard and crashed into what looks like deep water on the eastern edge OR possibly got off the road and got airborne landing on the rear end.... it doesn’t look like a good fishing area , no natural cover for fish .. so the car could stay undiscovered for a long time..

The 1952 Chevy with the old driver.. best guess ... along the same hwy #44 there is a series of dirt roads on the left that go straight into the water at an outcropping only a half mile or so before you would have made a left turn onto highway #73... most likely an accident with entrapment.

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34 posted on 09/18/2013 4:30:56 PM PDT by Neidermeyer (I used to be disgusted , now I try to be amused.)
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To: US_MilitaryRules

2 car crashes in one area and nobody could get out of their cars?
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Happens all the time here in Florida ... The Camaro took a vicious hit to the rear .. so much so that you can see the rear unibody bent and might have (probably) jammed the doors. Since no mention was made of the damage when the kids went missing and the damage would have made the car undrivable it must have happened at the time it went into the water.

If these happened at night that makes disorientation and panic a near certainty...

Check the photo’s at the local link and pull up the gps coordinates in Google Earth.


35 posted on 09/18/2013 4:37:22 PM PDT by Neidermeyer (I used to be disgusted , now I try to be amused.)
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To: Neidermeyer

series of dirt roads on the left that go straight into the water at an outcropping only a half mile or so before you would have made a left turn onto highway #73
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OOPS! ,, that would be a right turn into the lake and onto hwy #73 if heading South on #44.


36 posted on 09/18/2013 4:39:47 PM PDT by Neidermeyer (I used to be disgusted , now I try to be amused.)
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To: Neidermeyer
a perfect place to have discrete drag races .. my guess is he got hit hard and crashed into what looks like deep water on the eastern edge OR possibly got off the road and got airborne landing on the rear end...

Sounds reasonable-that would be an explanation for the severe rear end damage. The other party to the accident may have kept their mouth shut to cover their involvement in the collision.

I think there are more cars down there in this lake.

37 posted on 09/18/2013 5:02:38 PM PDT by exit82 ("The Taliban is on the inside of the building" E. Nordstrom 10-10-12)
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To: StormEye; exit82
there was a serial killer dumping his victims there.

the rear is horribly mangled. Impact with the water did not do that.

If I were an investigator assigned to the case, my first line of investigation would be to find if any of the local police cars had any front end body work done on them around the time these cars and bodies disappeared.........

For two cars with bodies found in a lake, one would think that a police investigation at the time of disappearance would have discovered, at the very least, tire tracks leading into the lake.......unless the cops were involved.

Just my thoughts......

38 posted on 09/18/2013 5:14:16 PM PDT by Hot Tabasco (Ms. Muffett suffered from arachnophobia)
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To: Hot Tabasco

The Camaro incident might fit the “dog that didn;t bark” scenario.

The ‘52 Chevy sounds more like an accident.

Mythbusters did an episode that showed that when you crash into water, get the heck out IM MEDIATELY—do not wait for the ater to rise in the car to supposedly equalize the pressure outside and inside the door. B y the time happens, the interior of the car is full of water and you are drowned or a bout to be drowned.

Multi tools are available that can be used to break the window glass and to cut the seatbelt webbing.


39 posted on 09/18/2013 5:33:27 PM PDT by exit82 ("The Taliban is on the inside of the building" E. Nordstrom 10-10-12)
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To: exit82

I think the damage to the Camaro may just be from the effort to pull it out of the water. The fenders obviously have holes in them, it seems obvious that the sheet metal in both vehicles would be thoroughly rotten.

In one of the later photos, the roof of the Camaro was removed. There certainly wasn’t any reason to use the jaws of life in this instance, the roof may have crumbled fairly easily.


40 posted on 09/18/2013 5:59:19 PM PDT by Alan Rumack
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