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Pvt. Jessica Lynch, 10 Years After Iraq Rescue: Pain But Much Gain
ABC News via Yahoo ^ | 9-19-13 | ANGEL CANALES

Posted on 09/19/2013 4:07:18 PM PDT by Houmatt

It was back in March 23, 2003, just three days after the start of the Iraq War, when Private First Class Jessica Lynch's unit was ambushed in Nasiriyah, Iraq. Lynch was only 19 when she was captured, badly injured and raped by Iraqi forces and held hostage for nine days before her dramatic rescue by US Rangers on April 1, 2003.

Controversy surrounds the "mythic" rescue story line. Lynch has blamed the Bush administration for exaggerating the bravery and success of the war with her story. "I knew that, even ten years later, I would not have been able to live with myself knowing that I let those stories escalate and I went along with what those other people were saying, because I knew in my heart that that's not really what happened," Lynch told ABC News' Bob Woodruff.

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TOPICS: Military/Veterans; Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: jessicalynch; militarywomen; oifveterans
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Am I the only one who just doesn't care about this ingrate?

Look: She was rescued because an Iraqi discovered her and traveled miles on foot to get word to our soldiers. And he got absolutely nothing from her in return. Not a thank you, not anything. In fact, when he got here to the States and went to visit her to see how she was doing, she refused to see him.

That woman is best left forgotten to the annals of history, as she is a pathetic footnote in the United States Armed Forces.

1 posted on 09/19/2013 4:07:18 PM PDT by Houmatt
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To: Houmatt

Women don’t belong in the military and Jessica Lynch and what happened to her are perfect examples of why.


2 posted on 09/19/2013 4:08:45 PM PDT by MeganC (A gun is like a parachute. If you need one, and don't have one, you'll never need one again.)
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To: Houmatt

Kids do stupid things that they regret later.

I am willing to let it go. 21 surgeries is a lot to go through. I am sure there was a fair share of crap that she had to eat after not living up to the hype.

It’s awful to put any 19 year old through.

I say, give her a pass and get on with her life.


3 posted on 09/19/2013 4:11:25 PM PDT by Vermont Lt (Quis custodiet ipsos custodes? Who will watch the watchers?)
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To: Houmatt

If she’d only been well-trained enough to charge her M-16, she probably would’ve never been captured and assaulted. What kind of namby-pamby basic training do they have since I left the service? I’m betting a female Marine wouldn’t have forgotten basic weaponry less than a year after going through it. And I say that as a soldier.


4 posted on 09/19/2013 4:11:51 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I aim to raise a million plus for Gov. Palin. What'll you do?.)
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Am I the only one who just doesn't care about this ingrate?

Ingrate? How so? From the very beginning she admitted that the stories about her had been exaggerated.............Why do you have a problem with that?

5 posted on 09/19/2013 4:13:33 PM PDT by Hot Tabasco (Ms. Muffett suffered from arachnophobia)
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To: MeganC

She wasn’t in the infantry, she was in a truck convoy, so she’s probably in transportation or supply. Although I did know one each female artillery and air defense lieutenants, which always puzzled me since combat arms weren’t open to women back in my day.


6 posted on 09/19/2013 4:14:11 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I aim to raise a million plus for Gov. Palin. What'll you do?.)
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To: Houmatt
"I knew that, even ten years later, I would not have been able to live with myself knowing that I let those stories escalate and I went along with what those other people were saying, because I knew in my heart that that's not really what happened," Lynch told ABC News' Bob Woodruff.

She seems to understand the meaning of honor. What is your problem?

7 posted on 09/19/2013 4:14:30 PM PDT by meadsjn
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To: Hot Tabasco

Are you suggesting this Iraqi doesn’t exist?


8 posted on 09/19/2013 4:15:32 PM PDT by Houmatt (Generic tag line.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

She was knocked unconscious and had several bones broken when her truck crashed. She wasn’t firing any weapon no matter how well she was trained.


9 posted on 09/19/2013 4:16:44 PM PDT by GrootheWanderer
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To: Houmatt
Lynch has blamed the Bush administration for exaggerating the bravery and success of the war with her story.

I suspect she has no idea of the planning and the risks involved in getting her to safety in the middle of an all-out invasion. If her unit couldn't drive a truck down the street without getting attacked and nearly wiped out, what makes her think the rescue was a walk in the park?

And the doctor who saved her put himself and his whole family at particular risk of being slaughtered as traitors for helping her.

As others have said, I'm sure she doesn't want to dwell on any of this for reasons known only to her. And she doesn't want to be a symbol for a war she may well not believe in. But a little respect for the people who saved her is still in order.

10 posted on 09/19/2013 4:17:33 PM PDT by marron
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To: GrootheWanderer

Are you sure? Then the report I read back then was bogus, because it said she forgot how to load her M-16 to fire it.


11 posted on 09/19/2013 4:22:33 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I aim to raise a million plus for Gov. Palin. What'll you do?.)
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To: meadsjn

Are you suggesting this Iraqi doesn’t exist?


12 posted on 09/19/2013 4:23:09 PM PDT by Houmatt (Generic tag line.)
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To: marron

Yes, the doctor who saved her. It seems there are people here who seem to think he is imaginary. I’d like them to prove it.


13 posted on 09/19/2013 4:24:47 PM PDT by Houmatt (Generic tag line.)
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To: Houmatt

Sorry but screw your opinion. I was in the unit next to hers at Bliss. My convoy was the next in line in Iraq on a paralell highway. She went through crap that most people in America never will and she has a right she earned to be however she wants in regard to that war. She was used as a prop by the Army and politics and she knows it and voices her opinion over it.


14 posted on 09/19/2013 4:26:28 PM PDT by aft_lizard
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To: Houmatt
Are you suggesting this Iraqi doesn’t exist?

I'm not suggesting anything other than why you have such a bean up your ass against this woman who did nothing to deserve your wrath...........

She's been straight forward from the very beginning and yet you're trashing her.........It's you that has a problem dude, not her.

15 posted on 09/19/2013 4:28:00 PM PDT by Hot Tabasco (Ms. Muffett suffered from arachnophobia)
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To: aft_lizard
Screw you. If it wasn't for that doctor, she probably wouldn't have been found and she would have been an MIA.

I think a little gratitude would have been nice.

16 posted on 09/19/2013 4:29:43 PM PDT by Houmatt (Generic tag line.)
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To: Houmatt

Sounds like she’s been bought off.


17 posted on 09/19/2013 4:32:14 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

She was pretty effed up from the accident..along with Piestewa and Shoshonna.


18 posted on 09/19/2013 4:33:02 PM PDT by aft_lizard
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The first story from her in interviews was that she had received little training with her weapon and she couldn’t fire it. Then as the interviews progressed she said her weapon jammed, now her story seems to be that she was knocked unconscious from the blast when her convoy was ambushed and had no idea what happened. She claims the story the Army/President Bush- whoever told was bogus; but she has told several versions herself.


19 posted on 09/19/2013 4:34:26 PM PDT by Tammy8 ( ~Secure the border and deport all illegals- do it now! ~ Support our Troops!~)
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To: Hot Tabasco
No, doofus.

If something happens to you that places your life in danger, and someone else is willing to sacrifice not only himself but the lives of his family to help get you out of that situation, the absolute leastyou can do is say thank you.

But everything I have seen tells me Jessica Lynch did no such thing.

And here you are telling me it is perfectly okay to be an ungrateful ass? And I have a problem?

20 posted on 09/19/2013 4:35:02 PM PDT by Houmatt (Generic tag line.)
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To: Tammy8
Then you remember the stories I referenced? I didn't think I was imagining it.
21 posted on 09/19/2013 4:35:43 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I aim to raise a million plus for Gov. Palin. What'll you do?.)
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To: Houmatt

How do you know she has never acknowledged him? Or seen him? Beyond that its none of your business really..she is the one who has to wake in pain everyday..remember being a POW..remember eleven dead soldiers from her small unit. Her not pleasing you is frankly no big deal.


22 posted on 09/19/2013 4:35:52 PM PDT by aft_lizard
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Nope you did not imagine it. Her stories have evolved.


23 posted on 09/19/2013 4:36:43 PM PDT by Tammy8 ( ~Secure the border and deport all illegals- do it now! ~ Support our Troops!~)
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To: aft_lizard

How dare you disagree with those who have gotten their information solely from the media and politicians!!!!!!!


24 posted on 09/19/2013 4:37:10 PM PDT by Roccus (Dealing with POLITICIANS is the true war on terror)
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To: Houmatt
Are you suggesting this Iraqi doesn’t exist?

Whether the Iraqi exists, or not, is not the issue.

Pvt. Lynch was knocked unconscious when her truck was blown of knocked off the road, and was only semi-conscious when the troops came to rescue her days later. She had no way to know what parts of the story were fabricated and what parts were real, except that she knew that enough of the story had been fabricated so as to throw the whole story into question.

It is not her fault at all that some dishonorable REMFs chose to just "make stuff up" about the whole deal for whatever excuse they used for the fabrication.

She is not to blame for the dishonesty and dishonor of others.

25 posted on 09/19/2013 4:37:52 PM PDT by meadsjn
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To: Houmatt

Her teammate was the driver of the vehicle (I think it was a Hummer). She made a wrong turn, getting them both in danger. After getting through the town she mistakenly drove into, she inexplicably did a 180 and drove right back into the town. She crashed it, was killed and the ungrateful Miss Lynch got injured and captured.

A year or so later, a mountain in Phoenix was illegally named after the woman driver, Piestawa Peak. It was in violation of a law requiring a five-year wait after someone’s death before you can name a geographical feature for them. The peak would never have been named after her once the above version of the story came out. People weren’t happy the mountain wasn’t named after a hero, but a zero. They did it because she was a “Native-American,” and the liberals had been bucking for years to change the name of “Squaw Peak.”

The law breaking Governor: one Janet Napolitano. She’s been a serial law-breaker long before she became one of Obastard’s butt-buddies.


26 posted on 09/19/2013 4:38:54 PM PDT by Cyber Liberty (It's hard to accept the truth when the lies were exactly what you wanted to hear.)
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To: Houmatt

I agree with you.


27 posted on 09/19/2013 4:40:25 PM PDT by beandog (All Aboard the Choo Choo Train to Crazy Town)
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To: meadsjn

If she understood the meaning of honor, she’d never talked to a sensationalist like Bob Woodruff.

She doesn’t like what the war did to her, but she wasn’t drafted.


28 posted on 09/19/2013 4:40:43 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: meadsjn
Pvt. Lynch was knocked unconscious when her truck was blown of knocked off the road...

The truck was crashed because they were trying to flee hostile fire.

29 posted on 09/19/2013 4:40:49 PM PDT by Cyber Liberty (It's hard to accept the truth when the lies were exactly what you wanted to hear.)
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To: aft_lizard

How do you know she has? Stop trying to blow smoke up my ass and bugger off.


30 posted on 09/19/2013 4:41:08 PM PDT by Houmatt (Generic tag line.)
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To: Cyber Liberty

Now Janet ghets to live in a 32,000 SF mansion with 8 acre grounds. Poor Thing!


31 posted on 09/19/2013 4:43:15 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
I was in the Anti Aircraft Artillary and I was instructed and always understood that one of my main functions was essentially Infantry.

Otherwise what is going to happen to the unit if it is attact?

32 posted on 09/19/2013 4:45:13 PM PDT by Dan(9698)
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To: Houmatt

Stop offering a condemnation that has no validity. BTW smoke blowing involves lying..I havent lied a bit.


33 posted on 09/19/2013 4:46:03 PM PDT by aft_lizard
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To: Dan(9698)

Well, every soldier should be a somewhat competent infantryman, just as “every Marine a rifleman” as is their motto, but you must admit that you won’t be as good an infantryman as someone who spends all their time training in it, just as I wouldn’t either.


34 posted on 09/19/2013 4:49:20 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I aim to raise a million plus for Gov. Palin. What'll you do?.)
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To: meadsjn
Whether the Iraqi exists, or not, is not the issue.

In other words, you have no idea, so you just wish to put it aside.

How about no?

Here's an idea for you: If he doesn't exist, prove it.

I do not give a flaming horse's patoot what Jessica Lynch says. That's not even why I posted this. I did it to point out how the press wanted to know how she was doing and she's willing to talk to them when the one man who is most likely the reason why she has a pulse let alone a kid she didn't seem to have time for. For me that is what matters and if you don't like it, tough cookies.

35 posted on 09/19/2013 4:49:51 PM PDT by Houmatt (Generic tag line.)
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To: editor-surveyor

Yeah. Remember that next time you try to explain to a child that crime doesn’t pay. Phshh.


36 posted on 09/19/2013 4:50:05 PM PDT by Cyber Liberty (It's hard to accept the truth when the lies were exactly what you wanted to hear.)
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To: aft_lizard
Then why don't you prove 1) the guy doesn't exist and 2) it never happened.

Put up or shut up.

37 posted on 09/19/2013 4:54:56 PM PDT by Houmatt (Generic tag line.)
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Well, every soldier should be a somewhat competent infantryman, just as “every Marine a rifleman” as is their motto

This incident is what drove a shift in training to get the "soft skills" more ready for ground combat. Prior to that the mentality was "I'm not Infantry, so why should I care?"

It got better, but it still has a long way to go. I just participated in some basic squad-level training with intelligence Soldiers, and it was painful.

38 posted on 09/19/2013 4:54:59 PM PDT by Future Snake Eater (CrossFit.com)
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I dunno. In retrospect, it might have better for the guy’s long-term health he wasn’t fingered in the American invasion. Obastard made such a hash of the bug-out I’m surprised we didn’t have choppers full of desperately fleeing people.

But I doubt that was on Pvt. Lynch’s mind when she didn’t want to see him.


39 posted on 09/19/2013 4:56:30 PM PDT by Cyber Liberty (It's hard to accept the truth when the lies were exactly what you wanted to hear.)
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And I have a problem?

Why yes, yes you do......Who does Jessica have to thank and what makes you so sure she hasn't already? "Everything you have seen"..?????

Stop being such an anal retentive richard and take your own head out of your rectum..........

40 posted on 09/19/2013 4:59:58 PM PDT by Hot Tabasco (Ms. Muffett suffered from arachnophobia)
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1. I never claimed he doesnt exist..he does..just isnt a Dr..hes a lawyer..and he works for Livingston. 2. You are the one making this claim..doesnt matter if I disagree...the burden of proof is on you.


41 posted on 09/19/2013 5:00:05 PM PDT by aft_lizard
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To: GrootheWanderer
She was knocked unconscious and had several bones broken when her truck crashed. She wasn’t firing any weapon no matter how well she was trained.

Once reason her Humvee probably crashed was because Lynch describes herself as in a panic and screaming and cowering and distracting her sergeant in the passenger seat while probably not helping the mood of the female driver who crashed the vehicle.

42 posted on 09/19/2013 5:01:24 PM PDT by ansel12 ( 'I'm on That New Obama Diet... Every Day I Let Vladimir Putin Eat My Lunch' .)
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To: aft_lizard
In other words, you can't prove it didn't happen. You'd much rather shift burden to me because proving it didn't happen means having to use your brain for something other than occupying your ass, along with the rest of your head.

Stop trolling me. You are getting boring fast.

43 posted on 09/19/2013 5:05:55 PM PDT by Houmatt (Generic tag line.)
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...probably not helping the mood of the female driver who crashed the vehicle.

...and died from her injuries. It would appear Pvt Lynch was not only not adept at firing her weapon, she was all thumbs reading a map because the only reason they were in the wrong place, was they made a wrong turn in the desert.

44 posted on 09/19/2013 5:06:27 PM PDT by Cyber Liberty (It's hard to accept the truth when the lies were exactly what you wanted to hear.)
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To: Hot Tabasco
What makes you so sure she has?

Why don't you just admit the only reason why you are trolling this thread is because like aft_lizard you have no sense of manners or courtesy? It's not okay to be a jerk to someone who could very well have saved your life. Period. And nothing is going to change that.

45 posted on 09/19/2013 5:09:15 PM PDT by Houmatt (Generic tag line.)
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In other words you dont want to be honest with the rest of FR about what really happened.

Lawyer el-Rehaief tells the sforces where Jessica is. True story. She gets rescued, he gets asylum and gdts a six figure salary for a book about the incident..she is still in the hospital recovering. He goes on TV making up stuff that is refuted by Jessica and people who workedat the hospital in Iraq. He attempts to go to her house..cameras in toe to meet her..while lromoting his book. She says no thanks..but offers to meet him and his family in private without cameras.

Theres your story..the real one. Not your made up fantasy one.


46 posted on 09/19/2013 5:11:51 PM PDT by aft_lizard
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To: Cyber Liberty

They werent the convoy commander..the first sergeants vehicle was. BTW that wasnt his first time in way getting his unit in trouble..it just happened to be his last time.


47 posted on 09/19/2013 5:13:48 PM PDT by aft_lizard
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I did enough “Infantry” functions to know to clean my weapon so it wouldn’t jam, and be proficient enough that I could fire it if needed.

What do they teach in Basic Training now?


48 posted on 09/19/2013 5:17:03 PM PDT by Dan(9698)
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To: Houmatt
Yes, the doctor who saved her. It seems there are people here who seem to think he is imaginary. I’d like them to prove it.

And he got absolutely nothing from her in return.

Look doofus or dumbass, It was not a doctor who resulted in her rescue, it was a lawyer....and his reward was amnesty in the United States.....So take your head out of your ass and start smelling the flowers.........

It was only thanks to a courageous Iraqi lawyer, Mohammed Odeh al-Rehaief, that she was saved. According to the Pentagon, Al-Rehaief risked his life to alert the Americans that Lynch was being held.

49 posted on 09/19/2013 5:27:18 PM PDT by Hot Tabasco (Ms. Muffett suffered from arachnophobia)
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To: Houmatt

Thank you for volunteering to serve your country.


50 posted on 09/19/2013 5:34:27 PM PDT by napscoordinator ( Santorum-Bachmann 2016 for the future of the Country!)
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