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Rock python kills family's Husky[Florida]
WSVN ^ | 13 Sept 2013 | WSVN

Posted on 09/19/2013 8:12:34 PM PDT by Theoria

A dog owner is sharing his heartbreaking story after a python came out of nowhere and killed his dog in the backyard.

***WARNING*** The images for this story may be disturbing to some viewers ***WARNING***

Angel Bichara's son is still too traumatized to speak on camera about how he tried but failed to save the family dog, Duke, from the grip of a rock python in the backyard of their West Miami-Dade home. "He heard the dog barking and then he heard the dog crying, so when he walked outside, he saw the snake had grabbed on to the dog's nose area and had wrapped up," said Bichara.

Bichara's son first tried to pull the 10-foot snake off the 4-year-old, 60-pound Husky's neck with his bare hands. "So he grabbed it by his neck, and he was not able to move it because the snake was so strong he couldn't do anything," said Bichara. "So he grabbed the shovel, he hit it, and it didn't do anything. It just got the snake even more mad. It pissed him off. The snake even lunged at him and everything, but it never let go of the dog."

He then tried to cut the snake off with garden clippers, but at that point it was too late.

The family then called 911:

Operator: "Dade County Police and Fire, what is the address of your emergency?"

Bichara: "Hi, we have like a 6-foot python in our backyard that just killed our 90-pound dog."

The Bichara's believe the rock python might have come from nearby bushes in search of a meal.

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TOPICS: Outdoors; Pets/Animals; Society
KEYWORDS: dog; florida; husky; python; siberianhusky

1 posted on 09/19/2013 8:12:34 PM PDT by Theoria
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To: Theoria

Florida is starting to make California look...normal?


2 posted on 09/19/2013 8:14:41 PM PDT by cicero2k
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To: Theoria; Joe 6-pack; Salamander

Dog and snake ping.


3 posted on 09/19/2013 8:20:47 PM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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To: Theoria

A 22 rifle with a CCI shotshell aimed right in the head would have killed the python and saved the dog. Works great on poisonous snakes at seven yards.


4 posted on 09/19/2013 8:22:33 PM PDT by Redcitizen (.)
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To: Theoria

Just WOW. Too bad he did not have a handgun, or a good, sharp hunting knife, to slice the snake in two. It can be hard to cut with the hedge clippers, especially when opened wide. They never said if the snake was killed, or got away!


5 posted on 09/19/2013 8:22:40 PM PDT by 2harddrive
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To: Redcitizen

The snake’s head was clamped down on the dog’s snout. That would have to be one precise shot to avoid damaging the dog.

Snakes hate alcohol, especially high proof in strong liquor. Pouring vodka or whiskey on the snake’s head (or preferably solvent-grade ethanol) would have made him let go and uncoil from the dog.


6 posted on 09/19/2013 8:28:08 PM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai
Snakes hate alcohol, especially high proof in strong liquor.

I'm afraid to ask how you figured that out. ;)

7 posted on 09/19/2013 8:37:10 PM PDT by USNBandit (sarcasm engaged at all times)
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8 posted on 09/19/2013 8:41:06 PM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Qui me amat, amat et canem meum.)
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To: Theoria

That boy can either live out the rest of his life waking up in a cold sweat and screams, or become a great python hunter. I hope it’s the latter.


9 posted on 09/19/2013 8:45:17 PM PDT by Dogbert41 (Up yours NSA !)
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To: Theoria

Florida should have an extermination/eradication project to rid the state of pythons to the extent possible. Nothing positive can come of a growing population of such snakes.


10 posted on 09/19/2013 8:45:39 PM PDT by Will88
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To: Will88

Yeah. Alligators were almost wiped out. Lets try again with these guys.


11 posted on 09/19/2013 8:47:40 PM PDT by Theoria
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To: Theoria

No reason to ever consider pythons an endangered species in the US. They didn’t originate here and they’ll cause nothing but trouble as long as they’re here and multiplying.


12 posted on 09/19/2013 8:53:58 PM PDT by Will88
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To: Theoria

He should have ran for the butcher knife. Practically every household has one.


13 posted on 09/19/2013 9:16:37 PM PDT by Errant
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To: Theoria
Python rock snakes are an alien intrusive species from Africa. They have no ecological niche here and don't belong here. Eradicating them is probably impossible but would be a worthy achievement environmentally.
14 posted on 09/19/2013 9:32:14 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: Redcitizen

Might work on venomous snakes but won’t work on the big coluboid snakes.

Once a large constrictor has struck and is constricting, the only way to stop it is to break it’s concentration. The best and most reliable way to do that is to make what is in it’s mouth taste really, really bad. Listerine, alcohol, vinegar usually works very well.

Putting a bullet in the snake will cause thrashing and will usually end up killing the animal being constricted that much faster.

Most people don’t understand just how powerful large constrictors are. Death throes of these animals can be quite violent and last a long time.


15 posted on 09/19/2013 10:15:19 PM PDT by BCR #226 (02/07 SOT www.extremefirepower.com...The BS stops when the hammer drops.)
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To: Will88

Unfortunately, there is a breeding population of quite a few different species of snakes in the Everglades. The media likes to concentrate on the big boids but there are breeding populations of some very dangerous venomous snakes there as well.

Barring a very cold cycle in the region, it’s going to be next to impossible to eliminate the population of introduced species there. With that being said, there aren’t as many as most people say there are or fear that there are.

Education and knowledge will help on dealing with the issue there but it’s going to be very hard to eliminate all the snake species that were introduced.


16 posted on 09/19/2013 10:19:02 PM PDT by BCR #226 (02/07 SOT www.extremefirepower.com...The BS stops when the hammer drops.)
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To: BCR #226

Most people don’t understand just how powerful large constrictors are. Death throes of these animals can be quite violent and last a long time.


Fire trumps and avoids the ‘death throes’.........a BGQ lighter will act upon the snakes instinctual self preservation reflex. Doesn’t take much. Your mileage will not vary.


17 posted on 09/19/2013 10:22:27 PM PDT by S.O.S121.500 (Case back hoe for sale or trade for diesel wood chipper....Enforce the Bill of Rights. It's the Law!)
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To: Theoria

Bichara is incorrect in his assumption that a 10 foot python was stalking a 60 pound dog for a meal. A dog that big would be very difficult for a snake that size to ingest.

Given that the necropsy done on the snake shows bite marks that match the dog, what most likely happened was the dog attacked the snake and paid the price for it.

A sad situation all the way around.


18 posted on 09/19/2013 10:22:59 PM PDT by BCR #226 (02/07 SOT www.extremefirepower.com...The BS stops when the hammer drops.)
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To: S.O.S121.500

Don’t bet on it. There are more than a few instances where snakes end up burned in captivity because of faulty heating pads under the tanks. Snakes process heat indication far differently than most other animals do. By the time they realize it’s hot, it’s too late, they’re burned.


19 posted on 09/19/2013 10:25:45 PM PDT by BCR #226 (02/07 SOT www.extremefirepower.com...The BS stops when the hammer drops.)
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To: Redcitizen

Even a sharp stick or knife through the top of the very soft and vulnerable skull.

The standard protocol for breaking a constrictor’s bite is rubbing alcohol or vinegar in its mouth.

However, I’m not sure the average person could do it fast enough.
Death is very quick and the internal damage probably irreparable.

I’m for microchipping exotic snakes.

When something happens, there’s a record of who is responsible.

This snake didn’t swim here from Africa.

Hope it is dead.


20 posted on 09/19/2013 11:01:18 PM PDT by Salamander (Blue Oyster Cult Will Be The Soundtrack For The Revolution.....)
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To: 2harddrive

You MUST destroy the brain or the body will continue to function/constrict.

“Pithing” is the ONLY way to instantly kill a snake.

Anything else will leave it functioning, even if on a very basic level.

A head shot or a heavy rock are extreme forms of “pithing”.


21 posted on 09/19/2013 11:03:48 PM PDT by Salamander (Blue Oyster Cult Will Be The Soundtrack For The Revolution.....)
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To: BCR #226

That puzzled me too.

My Bob the Boa is over 7 feet long and anything bigger than a large -dead- rat scares him silly and he retreats to his hide box.

I keep my dogs and snakes separate for the *snakes’* sakes, not the dogs.
Their size and fast movements horrify the snakes.

I’ll grant you, BCIs are kinda sissy but an AfRock is quite gutsy.


22 posted on 09/19/2013 11:09:53 PM PDT by Salamander (Blue Oyster Cult Will Be The Soundtrack For The Revolution.....)
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To: BCR #226

dOES “in captivity” register a concept/idea over there??”?

Here, put your nose, tongue, and lips in the flame of a BIC.........what ya’ gonna’ do???


23 posted on 09/20/2013 12:53:31 AM PDT by S.O.S121.500 (Case back hoe for sale or trade for diesel wood chipper....Enforce the Bill of Rights. It's the Law!)
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To: Salamander

I’ll grant you, BCIs are kinda sissy but an AfRock is quite gutsy.


Sissy or not, the snakes ceases its behavior and leaves.....might prevent the suffocation of a prey/pet due to ‘death throes’ or reflexes etc. The snake disengages almost immediately and tries to avoid the flames around his most sensitive parts. For pit vipers, amphibians, and cobras try retreat, shovels, or garden hoes.


24 posted on 09/20/2013 1:01:14 AM PDT by S.O.S121.500 (Case back hoe for sale or trade for diesel wood chipper....Enforce the Bill of Rights. It's the Law!)
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To: S.O.S121.500

“Disengaging” is the issue.

Recurved teeth prevent them from “immediately letting go” even if they desperately want to.

I would ~hope~ it would cause them to cease constricting fast enough to save the pet but I really don’t know.

Thankfully, I’ve never had to face this situation and in spite of having an insanely secure yard, my dogs are not allowed out unless I am there to watch over them.

Stuff happens and if my dogs came back inside in lame, sick or whatever, I’d want to know precisely *why* they did so to easier facilitate vet effective treatment.

I live in a Copperhead/Rattler area but they stay up on the ridges.

Hopefully, they always will.


25 posted on 09/20/2013 1:14:10 AM PDT by Salamander (Blue Oyster Cult Will Be The Soundtrack For The Revolution.....)
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To: BCR #226

How about a butane torch?


26 posted on 09/20/2013 1:17:57 AM PDT by Loud Mime (Liberal: A person who charges their grandchildren for today's party)
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To: Salamander

I live in a Copperhead/Rattler area but they stay up on the ridges.

Hopefully, they always will.


I share your hope-——and I watch mine.........almost but not quite “helicoptering”. L


27 posted on 09/20/2013 2:30:26 AM PDT by S.O.S121.500 (Case back hoe for sale or trade for diesel wood chipper....Enforce the Bill of Rights. It's the Law!)
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To: BCR #226

What are some of the venomous snakes down in south Fl that shouldn’t be here?


28 posted on 09/20/2013 3:34:01 AM PDT by pallmallman (Q)
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To: pallmallman

Black Mamba.

I hope not!


29 posted on 09/20/2013 4:15:35 AM PDT by Vinnie
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To: Olog-hai

Snakes hate alcohol, especially high proof in strong liquor. Pouring vodka or whiskey on the snake’s head (or preferably solvent-grade ethanol) would have made him let go and uncoil from the dog.


Didn’t know this. Would this include rubbing alcohol, too...would not want to pour good stuff on a snake...


30 posted on 09/20/2013 4:52:10 AM PDT by SeminoleCounty (Anti-Birthers = Obama Supporters)
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To: S.O.S121.500

In captivity means snakes that are kept in enclosures. They are an observable group and more knowledge on snakes has been gleaned from these snakes than will ever be obtained in the wild.

But, there is similar evidence of like behavior in the wild as shown in forest fires too.

Snakes are very focused predators. More so than just about any mammal on earth.


31 posted on 09/20/2013 5:00:09 AM PDT by BCR #226 (02/07 SOT www.extremefirepower.com...The BS stops when the hammer drops.)
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To: Loud Mime

Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn’t.

One of the snakes we keep is so prey driven that it will ignore alcohol, water and listerine in the mouth. The only thing she’ll disengage for is vinegar. Thankfully, she’s just a Mexican Black King snake and can’t do much damage.


32 posted on 09/20/2013 5:03:09 AM PDT by BCR #226 (02/07 SOT www.extremefirepower.com...The BS stops when the hammer drops.)
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To: pallmallman

The facility in Florida that was destroyed in Andrew had well over 100,000 snakes of hundreds of species. I don’t think a full accounting of what was in there has ever been published but I know there were a lot of vipers from around the world. Reports of eye lash vipers and other arboreal species not native to this hemisphere are out there.


33 posted on 09/20/2013 5:05:11 AM PDT by BCR #226 (02/07 SOT www.extremefirepower.com...The BS stops when the hammer drops.)
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To: BCR #226
The facility in Florida that was destroyed in Andrew had well over 100,000 snakes of hundreds of species. I don’t think a full accounting of what was in there has ever been published but I know there were a lot of vipers from around the world. Reports of eye lash vipers and other arboreal species not native to this hemisphere are out there.

I'm sorry but I fail to see any reason why we would even allow some of these snakes into the country. Can somebody explain the reasoning behind them being here. As far as the constrictors go just declare open season on them and kill them all. I mean I see shows where they go out and catch the snake and then take it away. Why just kill the thing no good can come from it being allowed to live.

34 posted on 09/20/2013 5:54:38 AM PDT by KirbDog
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To: Vinnie

Oh man...aren’t here some cobras down there?


35 posted on 09/20/2013 6:07:22 AM PDT by pallmallman (Q)
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To: Theoria

So sad.

No axe? No machete?

BTW, as an aside, I have to ask. How did we go from 6’ and 90# to 10’ and 60#?


36 posted on 09/20/2013 6:08:12 AM PDT by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Technological progress cannot be legislated.)
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To: SeminoleCounty

AFAICS, rubbing alcohol has the double effect of making the snake let go and possibly killing the snake. When you’re dealing with a non-pet snake, that may be the desired result.


37 posted on 09/20/2013 6:19:56 AM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: KirbDog
The facility has been called a breeding facility but that was only a small part of their existence. Their mainstay was research in reptiles and milking snakes for anti venom and for research into cures for disease.

Constrictors are not evil monsters. Do they need to be controlled in the Everglades? Yes. Will they? Nope. Snakes by nature are very secluded and secretive animals. They don't go looking for trouble and are usually out only when hunting or looking for a mate. Most attacks by constrictors are actually defensive in nature. They are usually aggressed upon first.

Something else to remember, large snakes do not eat much. As in, they will usually eat only a dozen times a year, maybe 2 dozen at the most. All the hype about the giant snakes wiping out the other species in the Everglades is pure BS. For them to have done that, the population would have to be insanely massive. It isn't even close to that. Not to mention there has been a decline in the numbers of native species in the Everglades since long before the boids arrived.

I understand the fear that these animals can conjure up. Much of that is driven by myth and media inaccuracies. Saying that killing them because no good can come from it living is very close minded and ignorant. I don't say that as an insult but understand, these animals have abilities and traits that we still do not understand that could benefit us in ways we can't comprehend.

Snakes are able to control their metabolism unlike any other animal on earth. They can slow it or speed it up to suit their needs. It's amazing to see a 20 pound snake not eat for a year and not lose a single gram of weight.

I used to not really care about snakes at all. Then my daughter wanted one for her birthday and I, being a good parent, researched the hell out of the topic before letting her have one. Now, we have about 30 snakes of different species including pythons and boas. I've found that snakes are very curious animals and are reasonably intelligent for being reptiles. They remember and they learn. Having snakes in our home has helped to teach my daughter the importance of respoonsibility, not to be afraid of things like snakes, to learn before judging, and a sense of compassion that most children her age do not possess.

Don't believe the media garbage about snakes. 99% of it is myth and lies. Research the truth about them before you judge them. I would suggest you watch some videos on youtube. Do a youtube search on Snakebytes TV and watch and learn. You might be surprised at what you learn.

A couple pics of my daughter with snakes...

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38 posted on 09/20/2013 6:49:19 AM PDT by BCR #226 (02/07 SOT www.extremefirepower.com...The BS stops when the hammer drops.)
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To: the OlLine Rebel

A 6 foot snake at 90 pounds will look like a giant football. Even the heavier boids at 6 feet are only around 20 pounds. At 10 feet, around 40 pounds.

This is an example of media hype and fear mongering. With that being said, a 6 foot snake at 20 pounds is an incredibly strong animal and is fully capable of defending itself against many predators... including dogs and people.

They should be respected as a wild animal and not messed with if you run across a large boid in the wild. In most places in the US, you run across one, and it’s almost guaranteed to be a recent escaped pet. That means it’ll be used to people and is quite a bit safer to come in contact with vs. a wild bred snake.

Florida is probably the only exception to this rule being that it’s the only place in CONUS that can support a wild population of these snakes.


39 posted on 09/20/2013 6:55:28 AM PDT by BCR #226 (02/07 SOT www.extremefirepower.com...The BS stops when the hammer drops.)
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To: Will88

Like we do with feral hogs here in Texas.


40 posted on 09/20/2013 7:34:02 AM PDT by Resolute Conservative
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To: BCR #226

That is pretty much what I thought the facility was being used for. I didn’t mean to say that all snakes should be dead I know they have a purpose. I was just saying that those snakes in the Everglades that don’t belong there should be dispatched post haste.


41 posted on 09/20/2013 7:34:58 AM PDT by KirbDog
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To: Salamander

Get a male outdoor cat and feed him just enough to keep him around. Cats lower the rodent population and occasionally get a snake too.


42 posted on 09/20/2013 7:37:26 AM PDT by Resolute Conservative
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To: Resolute Conservative; Salamander

I saw a documentary on the wild Egyptian desert cats that are the forerunners of domestic cats, and they ate more snakes than rodents, vipers especially.

They showed this Morris-lookalike desert cat taking out a pit viper, and Morris just hung back out of the snake’s striking range, occaisonally lashing out with a paw smacking the snake’s head. After twenty minutes Morris was exhausted and the snake’s head was ribbons of bloody disjointed flesh...bit of a nap and he was watching the sun set enjoying snake sashimi.


43 posted on 09/20/2013 8:01:47 AM PDT by Anton.Rutter
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To: Resolute Conservative

#1, No cat can handle rats like a good dog can.
#2, Why on earth would I want snakes killed?


44 posted on 09/20/2013 10:08:26 AM PDT by Salamander (Blue Oyster Cult Will Be The Soundtrack For The Revolution.....)
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To: BCR #226

Actually the weights were referring to the dog.

I can see the length of unknown snake being mistaken but you should know your own dog’s weight.


45 posted on 09/20/2013 11:33:05 AM PDT by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Technological progress cannot be legislated.)
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To: the OlLine Rebel

Ah... I saw the length at 6 feet then 10 feet and linked the weight with the snake. Still, that dog was too big to be a meal for that python.


46 posted on 09/20/2013 2:22:25 PM PDT by BCR #226 (02/07 SOT www.extremefirepower.com...The BS stops when the hammer drops.)
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To: Olog-hai

I should have clarified: shoot at point blank range with the muzzle pressed up against the snake’s head in a direction away from bystanders and dog.

I never heard of pouring alcohol on a snake’s head to make them uncoil. Interesting.


47 posted on 09/20/2013 6:15:30 PM PDT by Redcitizen (.)
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To: Salamander

I’m glad the dog got killed instead of a family member. I don’t know beans about large constrictors. Just wild rattlers and other desert critters.

(PS. Hi Bob! Whassssup??! )


48 posted on 09/20/2013 6:28:56 PM PDT by Redcitizen (.)
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To: Redcitizen
Bob says "Yo, Red"


49 posted on 09/20/2013 7:31:58 PM PDT by Salamander (Blue Oyster Cult Will Be The Soundtrack For The Revolution.....)
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