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Ian Fleming 'was sexist, racist and sadistic': New Bond author says his book is well-written...
The Dail Mail UK ^ | 09.21.13

Posted on 09/22/2013 8:55:07 AM PDT by Perdogg

Ian Fleming 'was sexist, racist and sadistic': New Bond author says his book is well-written... unlike the originals

The author of the new James Bond book, says he deliberately wrote about women and African people 'not in a way Fleming would write them'.

William Boyd, the third writer in recent years to pen a new installment to the classic spy series, said he found it difficult to read the descriptions of 'negros' and chapters entitled 'Nigger Heaven'.

Boyd, who was born in Ghana in 1952 and spent his childhood travelling between Africa and his Scottish boarding school Gordonstoun, said: 'It's unbelievable to read now. I think if you were of that privileged upper class, born at the beginning of the 20th century, you were probably racist, sexist, right wing and anti-Semitic.'

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TOPICS: Books/Literature; Chit/Chat
KEYWORDS: bondjamesbond; books; culturewar; politicalcorrectness; revisionisthistory
Again, this thread is not about homosexuality or if Bond is a muslim. I think Boyd misses Fleming point in "Live and Let Die".
1 posted on 09/22/2013 8:55:07 AM PDT by Perdogg
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To: SilvieWaldorfMD; GSP.FAN; Young Werther; Guenevere; SJSAMPLE; Larry Lucido; fieldmarshaldj; ...

ping


2 posted on 09/22/2013 8:57:52 AM PDT by Perdogg (Cruz-Paul 2016)
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To: Perdogg

But what is Boyd?


3 posted on 09/22/2013 9:00:42 AM PDT by Hardraade (http://junipersec.wordpress.com (Obama: the bearded lady of the Muslim Brotherhood))
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To: Perdogg
I think if you were of that privileged upper class, born at the beginning of the 20th century, you were probably racist, sexist, right wing and anti-Semitic.'
Fixed.


4 posted on 09/22/2013 9:02:23 AM PDT by Bratch
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To: Hardraade

The author of the new book.


5 posted on 09/22/2013 9:02:45 AM PDT by Perdogg (Cruz-Paul 2016)
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To: Perdogg

His new Bond novel is set in the year 1969, so he’s imposing modern-day PC values on a half-century old version of James Bond. Laughable.


6 posted on 09/22/2013 9:03:39 AM PDT by Kip Russell (Be wary of strong drink. It can make you shoot at tax collectors -- and miss. ---Robert A. Heinlein)
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To: Perdogg

This arrogant idiot couldn’t shine Fleming’s shoes.


7 posted on 09/22/2013 9:07:51 AM PDT by headstamp 2 (What would Scooby do?)
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To: Perdogg

No doubt. But *what* is he? Gay? Liberal? Kenyanist? Transgender?


8 posted on 09/22/2013 9:11:36 AM PDT by Hardraade (http://junipersec.wordpress.com (Obama: the bearded lady of the Muslim Brotherhood))
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To: Perdogg

I gave you a green arrow. :)


9 posted on 09/22/2013 9:14:38 AM PDT by LostInBayport (When there are more people riding in the cart than there are pulling it, the cart stops moving...)
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To: Perdogg

And what exactly is wrong with being right wing ? He sounds like an arrogant elitist PC asshole.


10 posted on 09/22/2013 9:16:07 AM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (Resist We Much)
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To: Kip Russell

Bond’s car is a Jensen.


11 posted on 09/22/2013 9:18:23 AM PDT by Perdogg (Cruz-Paul 2016)
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To: Perdogg

When did that happen ?


12 posted on 09/22/2013 9:22:12 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks ("Say Not the Struggle Naught Availeth.")
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To: Perdogg
I think Boyd is using his own contemporary artistically leftist standards to judge Fleming while attempting to justify his own, apparently denigrated, version of "Bond".

IOW, Boyd's a critical deconstructionist.

13 posted on 09/22/2013 9:24:42 AM PDT by Calvin Locke
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To: Perdogg

If Ian Flemming is so bad, why is he standing on his shoulders? Bond is already created, he only has to send him on another adventure and he’s complaining about the source material??

Is he another 60’s idiot now with power?


14 posted on 09/22/2013 9:34:19 AM PDT by Lx (Do you like it? Do you like it, Scott? I call it, "Mr. & Mrs. Tenorman Chili.")
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To: Perdogg
Bond’s car is a Jensen.

In and of itself, I don't have a problem with that...the the 1969 Jensen FF had anti-lock brakes and full-time all wheel drive, making it extremely advanced for its time.


15 posted on 09/22/2013 9:35:22 AM PDT by Kip Russell (Be wary of strong drink. It can make you shoot at tax collectors -- and miss. ---Robert A. Heinlein)
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To: Perdogg
Ian Fleming 'was sexist, racist and sadistic'

Aaaand loving it!

16 posted on 09/22/2013 9:35:30 AM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statemet of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both.)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

In the new novel that is out Thursday in the UK.


17 posted on 09/22/2013 9:37:08 AM PDT by Perdogg (Cruz-Paul 2016)
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To: Perdogg

Who gave this idiot the authority to write a Bond novel?


18 posted on 09/22/2013 9:40:20 AM PDT by Defiant (A rainbow curtain has descended upon the west, from Munich to San Francisco.)
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To: Defiant

Ian Fleming Publication, which is run by Ian’s niece Lucy Fleming.


19 posted on 09/22/2013 9:42:49 AM PDT by Perdogg (Cruz-Paul 2016)
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To: Perdogg

Sad.


20 posted on 09/22/2013 9:51:53 AM PDT by Defiant (A rainbow curtain has descended upon the west, from Munich to San Francisco.)
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To: Perdogg
Ian Fleming 'was sexist, racist and sadistic': New Bond author says his book is well-written... unlike the originals

Talk about biting the hand that feeds you. Fleming was wildly successful, and this author is using that success for his own book, yet insulting the very books Fleming wrote. Ingratitude, they name is liberal.

21 posted on 09/22/2013 9:57:45 AM PDT by Flick Lives (We're going to be just like the old Soviet Union, but with free cell phones!)
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To: Perdogg

Guess I know which author I will be avoiding. Had all of the originals at one time.


22 posted on 09/22/2013 9:58:12 AM PDT by MamaB
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To: Perdogg

Well, I guess Bond has been neutered even more

I never knew Bond as racist. And, yes, he was already quite “diverse” with his women in Live and Let Die


23 posted on 09/22/2013 10:04:21 AM PDT by SeminoleCounty (Supporting Communism is never Conservatism)
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To: Defiant

There is Fleming and everyone else. The inspiration to create Bond was a reaction to the treason of the Cambridge spies (Philby, Burgess, Maclean, Blunt et al) for the soviets. The upper class Cambridge spies shook Britain when they were exposed and made headlines in 1951. Casino Royale was published in 1953 and Bond was fighting the soviets in that book. He was definitely anti soviet at his origin.


24 posted on 09/22/2013 10:08:26 AM PDT by xp38
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To: Perdogg
feh...
25 posted on 09/22/2013 10:18:47 AM PDT by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -vvv- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: BenLurkin

Excellent!

All the things that made Bond likeable are being disrespected by this wannabe ‘author’.


26 posted on 09/22/2013 10:43:32 AM PDT by Moltke (Sapere aude!)
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To: xp38
I think that while heirs have a right to the estate, their should be some restrictions on the ability to use the artistic creations of people, certainly without their express creation by the artist of an entity that controls those creations. Otherwise, it is just a fraud on the public.

We would not allow someone to be out there creating new paintings and calling them Van Goghs. This guy should be free to write his book, just not use Bond as his character unless Ian Fleming wanted this to happen. If Fleming created this publishing entity, and authorized it to write Bond books before he died, well, I guess that's ok, but there should always be a requirement that the work be labeled to avoid confusion. "Bond, as imagined by Joe Blow" prominent on the cover, and "Not written by Ian Fleming" on the back.

27 posted on 09/22/2013 10:47:36 AM PDT by Defiant (A rainbow curtain has descended upon the west, from Munich to San Francisco.)
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To: Perdogg
The Cold War is over, and so the entire idea of a recherche thug being one of the good guys is uncomfortable for the PC mindset.

If the author wanted to capture the spirit of Bond, his hero would be shooting Muslim terrorists. In the back. And it would be a good thing.

28 posted on 09/22/2013 10:50:28 AM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: Perdogg
Not really surprising, is it? Whatever your political or ideological affiliation, if you were one of Fleming's peers or contemporaries you probably didn't have views that would be regarded as politically correct nowadays. Future generations will probably find fault with today's trendy, well-to-do Britons like Boyd for some reason that may not be clear to us now.

It all does seem like "poor form," though. Taking the Bond job is something like an admission that a writer hasn't made it as a highbrow author -- that you're only at best a middlebrow and not a very creative or original one. Tacking your name onto Fleming's and Bond's for the money is bad enough, but angling for extra publicity by running down the franchise and its creator is definitely base and boorish.

29 posted on 09/22/2013 11:30:16 AM PDT by x
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To: Perdogg
Was

CHITTY CHITTY BANG BANG

sexist?

Now that's a Bond Caar!

30 posted on 09/22/2013 11:32:26 AM PDT by Young Werther (Julius Caesar said "Quae cum ita sunt. Since these things are so.".)
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To: Bratch

Spot on


31 posted on 09/22/2013 12:03:54 PM PDT by Vaduz
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To: Perdogg
William Boyd, the third writer in recent years to pen a new installment to the classic spy series.

What a horrible way to start.
Announce your "political Correctness," and be assured I will never read anything you write, moron!

And just for grins, I must add the obvious. YOU don't get to judge whether your writing is 'better.' Your readers do.
Maybe you need some time at a "Delusional' clinic.

32 posted on 09/22/2013 12:56:00 PM PDT by publius911 (Look for the Union label, then buy something else.)
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To: Perdogg; Revolting cat!

More PussCyfying of mass media escapist “trash” pulp books and movies.


33 posted on 09/22/2013 2:18:45 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (America 2013 - STUCK ON STUPID)
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To: Kip Russell

Iceberg Slim’s book Pimp was written in the 1960s and isn’t very PC either in terms of race, sexism, homosexuality, etc. Yet there has been a recent documentary about the author (an ex-con pimp) and talk of a filmed version.


34 posted on 09/22/2013 2:20:37 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (America 2013 - STUCK ON STUPID)
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To: Calvin Locke

JFK was a fan of Ian Fleming’s books. Perhaps scholars need to put that in their PC pipe and smoke it.


35 posted on 09/22/2013 2:21:39 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (America 2013 - STUCK ON STUPID)
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To: xp38

Don’t forget the British Soviet traitors in the 1960s with the Profumo affair.


36 posted on 09/22/2013 2:24:26 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (America 2013 - STUCK ON STUPID)
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To: Billthedrill
If the author wanted to capture the spirit of Bond, his hero would be shooting Muslim terrorists. In the back. And it would be a good thing.

A license to kill does not require Mirandizing the target.

37 posted on 09/22/2013 2:25:49 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (America 2013 - STUCK ON STUPID)
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To: Perdogg

And you wonder why i don’t read Bond books anymore.
Sticking with Daniel Silva and Vince Flynn at least they deal with reality.
If Bond movies become PC,will never watch another one..


38 posted on 09/22/2013 7:23:47 PM PDT by GSP.FAN (Some days, it's not even worth chewing through the restraints.)
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