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Hitler Warning Film Lay In Vault For 75 Years
Sky News ^

Posted on 09/22/2013 2:16:05 PM PDT by nickcarraway

In Hitler's Reign of Terror the American film-maker visited the town where the Nazi leader was "an unpopular kid" at school.

The first American film to warn about the rise of Adolf Hitler has been found in a vault in Belgium after lying unnoticed for 75 years.

Hitler's Reign of Terror features footage smuggled out of Germany, showing Nazi party rallies, book burnings and the ransacking of Jewish shops.

It was produced by Cornelius Vanderbilt, an heir to the wealthy US industrialist family, who visited Germany as Hitler was voted into power in 1933.

(Excerpt) Read more at news.sky.com ...


TOPICS: History; Military/Veterans; TV/Movies
KEYWORDS: adolfhitler; belgium; corneliusvanderbilt; germany; godsgravesglyphs

1 posted on 09/22/2013 2:16:05 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: SunkenCiv

Ping


2 posted on 09/22/2013 2:16:31 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: nickcarraway

I don’t suppose the vault also included a number of Lon Chaney’s lost films?


3 posted on 09/22/2013 2:18:58 PM PDT by ClearCase_guy (21st century. I'm not a fan.)
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To: ClearCase_guy

I bet Geraldo is really pissed


4 posted on 09/22/2013 2:27:24 PM PDT by shadeaud (Stay Thirsty My Friends)
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To: nickcarraway

Chilling.


5 posted on 09/22/2013 2:33:55 PM PDT by Jane Long (While Marxists continue the fundamental transformation of the USA, progressive RINOs stay silent.)
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To: nickcarraway

The fact is in the 1930s, the Nazis had considerable sway in Hollywood (a familiar theme in Hollywood that goes on today), they heavily influenced Hollywood’s portrayal of the Nazis up until WWII...and their tone towards Hitler only changed when he invaded their beloved Soviet Union.


6 posted on 09/22/2013 2:36:56 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: dfwgator

I recall reading about that very subject...nice catch.


7 posted on 09/22/2013 2:39:24 PM PDT by rrrod (at home in Medellin Colombia)
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To: dfwgator

Yep. I’ve seen some books that went into detail as to which films (that predated Charlie Chaplin’s film) were shunned by the studios.

Part of the belief (besides political) was that they didn’t want to p!ss of Nazi Germany and see a potential film market eliminated (especially if America stayed out of the war).


8 posted on 09/22/2013 2:49:23 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (America 2013 - STUCK ON STUPID)
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To: ClearCase_guy

Chaney’s films could be anywhere in the world. They located long missing footage from Metropolis in South America.

And I think some of Orson Welles films were found in Europe.


9 posted on 09/22/2013 2:51:27 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (America 2013 - STUCK ON STUPID)
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To: nickcarraway

If their is one word of Hitler’s Gun Control in this, it will get poo-pooed. If their is we need it non DVD and sent it to liberal minded friends..


10 posted on 09/22/2013 3:02:36 PM PDT by taildragger (The E-GOP won't know what hit them, The Party of Reagan is almost here, hang tight folks....)
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To: dfwgator; a fool in paradise
Confessions of a Nazi Spy with Edward G. Robinson released in May, 1939. Banned in Germany an other countries.

You Nazty Spy by the Three Stooges released in January 1940.

Alfred Hitchock's Foreign Correspondent was released in summer 1940, and included a specific appeal to Americans read by Joel McCrea. (It was a U.S. production, but mostly took place in England and Holland)

A few months later The Great Dictator by Charlie Chaplin was released.


Hitchcock made The Lady Vanishes in 1938 in England, in which the bad guys are clearly Nazis, although it's never made explicit.

There is a scene near the end, which is clearly meant to be a warning, and possibly a rebuke of Neville Chamberlain. A typical, stiff-upper-lip Brit tries to surrender to the bad guys and is shot.

11 posted on 09/22/2013 3:16:36 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: nickcarraway

Hard to believe this was never shown.


12 posted on 09/22/2013 3:24:04 PM PDT by OldNewYork (Biden '13. Impeach now.)
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To: nickcarraway
Great find Nick::::"The German embassy in the US protested, so the film was censored and adapted. It was then shown in other cities but with much less success," ...It's true the elites and many politicians were enamored with Hitler and Mussolini. Maybe like to-days politicians who admire Islam for its power over the masses...
13 posted on 09/22/2013 3:24:17 PM PDT by virgil283 (When the sun spins, the cross appears, and the skies burn red)
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To: virgil283

Many then saw the Bolsheviks as the bigger threat, and Hitler could keep them in check.


14 posted on 09/22/2013 3:26:18 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: dfwgator
"Many then saw the Bolsheviks as the bigger threat..could be ..however many elites got a thrill up their leg whenever they thought of 'Uncle Joe'....for the same reason...
15 posted on 09/22/2013 3:44:14 PM PDT by virgil283 (When the sun spins, the cross appears, and the skies burn red)
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To: virgil283

Certainly both kinds of totalitarianism had their fanbois back then.


16 posted on 09/22/2013 3:52:47 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: nickcarraway
It's very important and "has now been re-mastered and will be shown at New York's Museum of Modern Art next month."

Why not put it on youtube? Money?

This is art?

17 posted on 09/22/2013 4:29:24 PM PDT by RoosterRedux (The only true wisdom is in knowing you know nothing -- Socrates)
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To: nickcarraway
Remember, this was before the Internet. So Hitler's power grab and ensuing reign of terror was not documented on Free Republic and other patriot websites. Instead, we were spoon-fed the news through newsreels and newspapers. Heck, there wasn't even FoxNews or talk radio back then. We were truly at a disadvantage when it came to taking pre-emptive action against a ruthless, vegetarian, far-Left dictator.

And the folks in London weren't helping us at all. Instead, they were busy appeasing Hitler and declaring "peace for our time" while throwing the people of Austria and Czechoslovakia to the wolves.

Winston Churchill might just have saved the entire civilized world. Singlehandedly.

18 posted on 09/22/2013 4:38:26 PM PDT by SamAdams76
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To: nickcarraway
Mr Kempner died in 1993 and museum officials later took possession of some of his document collection, but the Rosenberg diary remained missing until recently. Acting upon information they received last November about the diary, authorities seized the missing pages after locating them in upstate New York.

According to the article, the "authorities" included the Justice Department (still grinding slowly) and the Department of Homeland Security. Odd that they were involved. Maybe the werewolves are still active in threatening America - or - maybe their Muslim allies are mentioned?
19 posted on 09/22/2013 4:40:38 PM PDT by WorkingClassFilth (You hear it here first.)
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To: nickcarraway; StayAt HomeMother; Ernest_at_the_Beach; decimon; 1010RD; 21twelve; 24Karet; ...
It was produced by Cornelius Vanderbilt, an heir to the wealthy US industrialist family, who visited Germany as Hitler was voted into power in 1933.
Thanks nickcarraway.

20 posted on 09/22/2013 6:02:49 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (It's no coincidence that some "conservatives" echo the hard left.)
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To: ClearCase_guy

Yeah, they found some great footage of Lon Chaney walking with the Queen.


21 posted on 09/22/2013 6:06:40 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (It's no coincidence that some "conservatives" echo the hard left.)
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Looking ahead to ~2083...


22 posted on 09/22/2013 6:07:19 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: virgil283
The German embassy in the US protested, so the film was censored and adapted. It was then shown in other cities but with much less success," ...It's true the elites and many politicians were enamored with Hitler and Mussolini. Maybe like to-days politicians who admire Islam for its power over the masses...

Not to mention an Democrat was President and in charge of the State Department.

23 posted on 09/22/2013 6:10:35 PM PDT by VeniVidiVici (Play the 'Knockout Game' with someone owning a 9mm and you get what you deserve)
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To: VeniVidiVici

Bookmark


24 posted on 09/22/2013 6:13:43 PM PDT by publius911 (Look for the Union label, then buy something else.)
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To: nickcarraway

Hopefully all of the films portraying the truth about Obama will be stored somewhere safe before they get destroyed along with other things like the U.S. Constitution.


25 posted on 09/22/2013 6:14:51 PM PDT by COBOL2Java (I'm a Christian, pro-life, pro-gun, Reaganite. The GOP hates me. Why should I vote for them?)
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To: SunkenCiv

Good one.


26 posted on 09/22/2013 6:17:48 PM PDT by ClearCase_guy (21st century. I'm not a fan.)
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To: SamAdams76

There was one guy on MBS Radio (abd briefly TV) who would tell it like it was, or as he saw it anyways.

I think it was Mutual Broadcasting...argh... I am probably wrong though... I’ll have to use Google.


27 posted on 09/22/2013 6:18:13 PM PDT by GeronL
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To: SamAdams76

I was thinking of DuMont TV

I read somewhere they had actually had a talk show that was like conservative talk radio is now.


28 posted on 09/22/2013 6:21:15 PM PDT by GeronL
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To: SamAdams76

I forget now what year it was that my dad was in Germany before the war. Probably around 1935? He was in a youth hostel and met up with a German kid. He asked him about this “Hitler guy” and the German held up his finger to his lips and said “not here”. So there must have been dribs and drabs of information getting out.


29 posted on 09/22/2013 6:21:15 PM PDT by 21twelve ("We've got the guns, and we got the numbers" adapted and revised from Jim M.)
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To: nickcarraway
See www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/culture/2013/05/the-first-american-anti-nazi-film-rediscovered.html.

In the video at the link, Vanderbilt is asked for his assessment of Hitler. He replies:

Unquestionably he is a man of real ability, of force. But the way I sized him up after interviewing him is that he is a strange combination of Huey Long, Billy Sunday, and Al Capone.

I had never heard a man so able to sway people. He said Germany refused to forget her two million war dead. In the hour and a half that Hitler talked to that packed audience that night, he was as effective as a barker in a sideshow travelling with a circus. The German people had suffered so long that they were ready to accept the promises of anyone who held out some hope for the future.


30 posted on 09/22/2013 6:37:59 PM PDT by cynwoody
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To: SamAdams76

I give up, but I did find a treasure trove of really old TV shows

http://archive.org/details/classic_tv


31 posted on 09/22/2013 6:43:01 PM PDT by GeronL
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To: cynwoody

I hope things never get so bad that, after a secession of a number Obama like dictators, America falls for a Hitler like person to restore sovereignty and order.


32 posted on 09/22/2013 6:54:31 PM PDT by The_Media_never_lie (Actually, they lie when it suits them! The crooked MS media must be defeated any way it can be done!)
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To: nickcarraway

BFL


33 posted on 09/22/2013 7:03:49 PM PDT by Skooz (Gabba Gabba we accept you we accept you one of us Gabba Gabba we accept you we accept you one of us)
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To: The_Media_never_lie

America has already fallen for a Hitler-like person.


34 posted on 09/23/2013 3:21:04 AM PDT by Hardraade (http://junipersec.wordpress.com (Obama: the bearded lady of the Muslim Brotherhood))
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To: Hardraade

Foutunately he does not have Hitler like powers. Would you be willing to give Hitler like powers to someone if he was pro American in order to clean out the riff raff?


35 posted on 09/23/2013 4:44:53 AM PDT by The_Media_never_lie (Actually, they lie when it suits them! The crooked MS media must be defeated any way it can be done!)
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To: The_Media_never_lie

Oh, don’t underestimate him. You’ll just get surprised.


36 posted on 09/23/2013 5:04:58 AM PDT by Hardraade (http://junipersec.wordpress.com (Obama: the bearded lady of the Muslim Brotherhood))
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To: dfwgator

“39 Steps”, 1935, Hitchcock film. German spy ring in England


37 posted on 09/23/2013 5:57:50 AM PDT by capt B
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To: nickcarraway
I saw The Lady Vanishes on TCM yesterday. I guess it was a big hit in Britain when it came out and also in the US when it debuted here. Nothing subtle about it in hindsight.
38 posted on 09/23/2013 10:19:07 AM PDT by stayathomemom (Beware of kittens modifying your posts.)
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To: dfwgator

The fact is in the 1930s, the Nazis had considerable sway in Hollywood (a familiar theme in Hollywood that goes on today), they heavily influenced Hollywood’s portrayal of the Nazis up until WWII...and their tone towards Hitler only changed when he invaded their beloved Soviet Union.
............
you’re conflating the nazis with the communists. The nazis and the communists were bitter enemies. They fought street battles in germany during the 20’s. Hollywood was 100% communist. No nazis. They only turned rabidly against the nazis when hitler betrayed his non aggression pact with stalin and invaded Russia in 1941-42.


39 posted on 09/23/2013 1:05:17 PM PDT by ckilmer
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To: ckilmer; dfwgator
The issue wasn't politics, but money. The big studios did not want to lose the German market, which was lucrative. Indeed, most of the self-censorship was done by Hollywood Jews.

The German consul in Los Angeles, Georg Gyssling, was the point man for most of this, letting studios know when something might not be well received in Germany. Some studios would even let him screen films and suggest cuts.

Of course, once WWII began in Europe, the studios' attitude changed completely.

40 posted on 09/23/2013 2:08:40 PM PDT by colorado tanker
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To: colorado tanker

and now they do it with China


41 posted on 09/23/2013 2:09:52 PM PDT by GeronL
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To: GeronL

Yes, they do.


42 posted on 09/23/2013 2:32:12 PM PDT by colorado tanker
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To: SunkenCiv
Yeah, they found some great footage of Lon Chaney walking with the Queen.

How was his hair?

43 posted on 09/23/2013 3:46:40 PM PDT by pandemoniumreigns
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To: pandemoniumreigns

It was perfect.


44 posted on 09/23/2013 3:47:44 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: dfwgator

“Many then saw the Bolsheviks as the bigger threat, and Hitler could keep them in check”

That worked out really well, didn’t it.


45 posted on 09/24/2013 12:32:43 PM PDT by RedStateRocker (Nuke Mecca, Deport all illegals, abolish the IRS, DEA and ATF.)
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To: nickcarraway

Cornelius Vanderbilt?

I’m guessing not the same one referenced in the old Hudson & Landry routine.

“That’s an alias, you know.”

“That’s funny, he don’t talk with an accent.”


46 posted on 09/24/2013 12:36:32 PM PDT by william clark (Ecclesiastes 10:2)
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